Opposing conservative views of Bush,

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in two new books. A book review from today's New York Times:

February 21, 2006
Books of The Times | 'Rebel in Chief' and 'Impostor'
Disparate Conservative Assessments of Bush

By MICHIKO KAKUTANI
The portraits of President George W. Bush served up by these two new books could not be more at odds.

Both authors are die-hard, dyed-in-the-wool conservatives. Bruce Bartlett ("Impostor"), former executive director of the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, worked in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and wrote the 1981 supply-side manifesto "Reaganomics." Fred Barnes is executive editor of "The Weekly Standard" and a co-host of the Fox News program "The Beltway Boys." The two authors, however, have come to diametrically opposing views of the current president.

Mr. Barnes views Mr. Bush as "a president who leads," an action-oriented "visionary," an executive who combines "F.D.R.'s cool optimism" and Teddy Roosevelt's "pugnacity and determination." Mr. Barnes had unusual access to members of the press-phobic administration: he interviewed Mr. Bush as well as Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for this volume. But he did not use this access to ask hard-hitting questions. Instead, his book echoes the administration's own portrayals of itself, even employing the same sort of macho adjectives the White House and Bush campaigns have used to characterize the president: "bold," "audacious," "steadfast," "unflinching."

As Mr. Barnes sees it, Mr. Bush's brand of conservatism — activist, forward-leaning and willing to use the government to solve problems — is "the conservatism of the future."

Mr. Bartlett, in contrast, sees Mr. Bush as a "pretend conservative" — "a partisan Republican, anxious to improve the fortunes of his party" but "perfectly willing to jettison conservative principles at a moment's notice to achieve that goal." He writes that the current White House is "obsessive about secrecy," argues that Mr. Bush has pursued "what could be described as a Nixonian agenda using Nixon's methods" and declares that when it comes to the federal budget, "Clinton was much better." Mr. Bush, he contends, has set the country on "an unsustainable fiscal course," resulting in a ballooning deficit that will inevitably lead to tax increases.

As Mr. Bartlett sees it, "the 2002 collapse of Enron" — the giant energy trading company, which "borrowed heavily, paid little in taxes, and made big profits in ways that were known to be contrary to sound business practices" — "may in some ways be a metaphor for the Bush Administration's economic policy."

His critique extends well beyond the economic sphere. He argues that "Bush has driven away and even humiliated the few intellectuals in his midst, preferring instead the company of overrated political hacks whose main skills seem to be an ability to say yes to whatever he says and to ignore the obvious." And he declares that the president's "unwillingness to properly utilize the traditional policy development process" lies "at the heart of the failure of his Social Security proposal and possibly the Iraq operation as well."

"One of the hallmarks of George W. Bush's approach to policy that is disturbing both to friends and foes alike," Mr. Bartlett writes, "is an apparent disdain for serious thought and research to develop his policy initiatives. Often they seem born from a kind of immaculate conception, with no mother or father to claim parentage."

Mr. Bartlett argues that the failure of "the administration to chart or articulate a consistent economic policy" stemmed, in large measure, from "Bush's disinterest in serious policy analysis" and his sidelining of people with genuine expertise. He writes that Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill and his successor, John Snow, were treated as "little more than errand boys," and that the Council of Economic Advisers was accorded little influence as well. It became clear, Mr. Bartlett writes, that the main job of the Council's chairman, R. Glenn Hubbard, "was not to devise economic policies, but only to offer support for those Bush had already decided upon."

These remarks by Mr. Bartlett echo earlier observations about the administration's mistrust of experts and often haphazard decision-making process, made by journalists like George Packer (writing about the Iraq war) and former administration insiders. Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism adviser, has written that on issues like terrorism and Iraq, "Bush and his inner circle had no real interest in complicated analyses; on the issues that they cared about, they already knew the answers, it was received wisdom." Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill once told Vice President Cheney that he felt administration members needed to bring more "analytical rigor, sound information-gathering techniques and real, cost-benefit analysis" to the decision making process. And John DiIulio, the former head of the Bush administration's faith-based initiative, wrote a 2002 memo to the reporter Ron Suskind, in which he lamented that "in eight months, I heard many, many staff discussions but not three meaningful, substantive policy discussions."

The descriptions of the Bush White House in "Rebel-in-Chief" do not exactly contradict those in "Impostor," but where Mr. Bartlett sees slapdash decision-making, Mr. Barnes sees decisiveness and visionary leadership — an admirable contempt for "small ball" and a practical desire to focus on results, not means. Mr. Barnes seems to think that being "a risk taker" who "loves to smash conventional wisdom" is a positive thing in a president, and he points out that Mr. Bush "hates to manage a problem or a dispute or a broken relationship," preferring to cut to "what's the solution?"

The account that Mr. Barnes gives of the president's approach to speech-making is especially telling, ironically ratifying Mr. Bartlett's observation that Mr. Bush likes to spurn traditional policy-making channels.

In "Rebel-in-Chief," Mr. Barnes writes that Mr. Bush "has used his presidential speeches to advance policies far beyond where his aides expected him to go," that "rather than reflect policy, his speeches dictate policy." Typically, he notes, the Bush speechwriting process begins with a meeting between the president and Michael Gerson, his former chief speechwriter turned policy adviser. Once drafted, the speech is circulated at the White House but "is not open to debate."

"This is the first time most White House and administration officials see a speech," Mr. Barnes writes. "It already has the president's imprimatur. Advisers are free to recommend a change in wording, but Bush does not tolerate attempts to alter the general direction of a speech."

In the case of the second Inaugural Address, which declared that spreading liberty around the world was "the calling of our time," Mr. Barnes reports that Mr. Bush teased Condoleezza Rice, saying "You're not going to believe what I say." Ms. Rice reportedly responded, "I hope I get to see it before you give it." What she and other senior Bush advisers later saw, Mr. Barnes goes on, "was a near-final draft to which only minor changes could be made." He continues, The thrust of the speech — the new direction, the policy declaration — had been set."

Not only does Mr. Barnes fail to make a persuasive case for the virtues of Mr. Bush's go-it-alone management style, but his narrative is also so replete with blinkered predictions, ridiculous generalizations and absurdly rosy pronouncements as to undermine any trust whatsoever in the author. He writes that "America's strategic position has indeed been fortified" by the president's Middle East policy, that "Afghanistan and Iraq are pro-American democracies" now, and that "Bush had received vindication both abroad and at home" when Iraqis turned out to vote in last year's elections — as if that meant that the war had been deemed successful and wise.

Mr. Barnes assails the press for contending that Mr. Bush has "indulged in more God-talk than his predecessors" (he contends that Bill Clinton "mentioned Jesus Christ more than Bush has"), even though Mr. Barnes himself writes that "Bush has been more powerfully affected by his faith than any other president" and that his "faith has had an enormous impact on his policies." He says "the Bush approach to foreign policy and key domestic issues, and his use of government, will stick as key elements of the conservatism of the future," despite the president's low standing in the polls, despite the public's unhappiness with the war in Iraq, despite many conservatives' worries about his administration's lavish spending ways. And he writes that "President Bush revealed his proactive tendencies after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and coastal Mississippi in the late summer of 2005," despite the fact that Mr. Bush and the federal government were painfully slow to respond to the emergency, as a scathing report issued by House Republicans noted a week ago.

As for Mr. Bartlett's book, there is one gaping omission: a reluctance to grapple with the huge federal deficits run up by his hero, Ronald Reagan. But while this omission blunts the author's complaints about President Bush's deficit spending, it does not detract from his larger criticisms of the current administration: namely, its subversion of many traditional conservative beliefs (like a wariness of Wilsonian efforts to export democracy and a wariness of big government); its willingness to subordinate long-term policy goals to short-term political gains; and perhaps most important, its distrust of the government's traditional policy-making apparatus and its inclination to make decisions based on ideology and grand ideas rather than on substantive analysis and debate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/21/books/review/21kaku.html?th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print

Mariner
 
Fred Barnes is officially the biggest weenie who ever lived. He's the goddamn Hugh Sidey of our times. He has nothing to say. He is a courtier. He makes sucking up and extreme sport. He does not understand conservatism. He has never had an original thought. He works for The Weekly Standard. I think I've made my point.

I'll have to check out the other guy.

You cannot be a conservative and a Bush fan at the same time, period.
 
Im not really a fan of any polictician. I voted for Bush twice. I dont regret it either time. With that said, he's no conservative. He spends out the ass. He ignores border security and he doesnt follow through on big fiscal ideas like SS reform. While i support the War in general prinicple, we are spending a shitload on it.

Where's Barry Goldwater's Ghost when you need it?
 
Before commenting on either Barnes or Bartlett, I think it important to point out that the NYT remains - reliably - the largest collection of pus-dripping whores ever assembled under one roof. The Old Grey Slut wouldn't know objective journalism if it slashed her pimp's throat at high noon in Times Square.

To the degree Barnes supports President Bush, he is savaged. Bartlett is treated mostly respectfully, only gently chided for not being sufficiently critical of President Reagan. The coin of the realm - the constant - the Holy Grail - is, as always, hatred for Bush.

It's become a sad, tired joke. Could this rag possibly degrade and disgrace itself any further? Could they be more clownish - more pathetically transparent?

Ah - maybe if they made Dan Rather managing editor...
 
musicman said:
Before commenting on either Barnes or Bartlett, I think it important to point out that the NYT remains - reliably - the largest collection of pus-dripping whores ever assembled under one roof. The Old Grey Slut wouldn't know objective journalism if it slashed her pimp's throat at high noon in Times Square.

To the degree Barnes supports President Bush, he is savaged. Bartlett is treated mostly respectfully, only gently chided for not being sufficiently critical of President Reagan. The coin of the realm - the constant - the Holy Grail - is, as always, hatred for Bush.

It's become a sad, tired joke. Could this rag possibly degrade and disgrace itself any further? Could they be more clownish - more pathetically transparent?

Ah - maybe if they made Dan Rather managing editor...

Agreed about the NYT (90% of the time).

I read Barnes' book. Its not that good. It does consist of mostly fawning praise upon Bush. I savaged it earlier, but having thought about it and reread a few passages, I find it does show a good portrait of Bush, a unique one with more detail and understanding than other portraits of Bush. You begin to understand what Bush is about, and obviously, he's not about "conservative" issues. He's a different kind of president.

Barnes deserves credit for showing this.

I will also read Bartlett's book. I respect him. However, I doubt there will be much of anything new there that I haven't already heard on the board from everyone. Everyone here, from Musicman to RWNG avenger to Avatar to No1tovote4 to Insein, Kathianne and many others have all had their "Bush isn't like me" moments. These often are very informative for others, as each person has brought their own ideas, opinions and insight into their particular moment where they realized that Bush just doesn't get it on this issue or isn't conservative on this issue, etc etc. Spending 25 dollars to get one man's view when I've had 20 differing views for free just as good is kind of dumb I think.

My two cents.
 
NATO AIR said:
Agreed about the NYT (90% of the time).

I read Barnes' book. Its not that good. It does consist of mostly fawning praise upon Bush. I savaged it earlier, but having thought about it and reread a few passages, I find it does show a good portrait of Bush, a unique one with more detail and understanding than other portraits of Bush. You begin to understand what Bush is about, and obviously, he's not about "conservative" issues. He's a different kind of president.

Barnes deserves credit for showing this.

I will also read Bartlett's book. I respect him. However, I doubt there will be much of anything new there that I haven't already heard on the board from everyone. Everyone here, from Musicman to RWNG avenger to Avatar to No1tovote4 to Insein, Kathianne and many others have all had their "Bush isn't like me" moments. These often are very informative for others, as each person has brought their own ideas, opinions and insight into their particular moment where they realized that Bush just doesn't get it on this issue or isn't conservative on this issue, etc etc. Spending 25 dollars to get one man's view when I've had 20 differing views for free just as good is kind of dumb I think.

My two cents.

I'm with you, NA. I just thought it vital to point out that the NYT - having displayed the subtlety of a bare ass on a flagpole and the morals of a crack whore - is irrelevant to this discussion. Or, ANY discussion, really.
 
musicman said:
I'm with you, NA. I just thought it vital to point out that the NYT - having displayed the subtlety of a bare ass on a flagpole and the morals of a crack whore - is irrelevant to this discussion. Or, ANY discussion, really.

of course, hence the democrats' determination to portray the NYT as the people's paper... correct only in the sense that it is quite similar to other "people's paper"s in cuba, china and north korea.
 
Bush has driven away and even humiliated the few intellectuals in his midst, preferring instead the company of overrated political hacks whose main skills seem to be an ability to say yes to whatever he says and to ignore the obvious."

Anybone who can make this statement after President Bush appointed Condi Rice as Secretary of State either knows jack about her, or is deliberately obfuscating.
 
Abbey Normal said:
Anybone who can make this statement after President Bush appointed Condi Rice as Secretary of State either knows jack about her, or is deliberately obfuscating.

I think this relates more to economic and domestic policy than foreign policy. A lot of these criticisms also are dated, going back to the excesses of the first term.
 
you've put the newspaper in its place, how about commenting on Barnes and Bartlett?

The reason I chose to post a NYT book review is that at that date I saw no other reviews of the upcoming book. I just googled again, and still don't see much comment on Bartlett's book, e.g. a book review in a conservative newspaper. If I see something, I'll post it.

Mariner.
 
Mariner said:
you've put the newspaper in its place, how about commenting on Barnes and Bartlett?

In a broad sense, I am more in Bartlett's camp than Barnes'. President Bush is a tepid conservative at the very best. The Republican Party is headed for an all-out war for its soul. The only thing postponing it is the fact that American liberalism remains a potent force (in defiance of all reason and sanity), which cannot be allowed to inflict any more damage on this nation. Bush ought to send the DNC some flowers.
 
NATO AIR said:
I find it does show a good portrait of Bush, a unique one with more detail and understanding than other portraits of Bush. You begin to understand what Bush is about, and obviously, he's not about "conservative" issues. He's a different kind of president.

The above comments of NATO are so true about Barnes' book. When I read it, I came away with the same assessment. Bush is a different kind of president, and you learn a lot more about him from reading Barnes' book that any other source. Barnes had a reason for titling his book Rebel-in-Chief. Pretty good description of an entirely different kind of politican occupying the White House.

Like Musicman, I still prefer Bush to any of the liberal Democrats.
 

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