Opinions differ after briefing on boat bombing.

[Missouri_Mike]

Yes, this is where your morality and ethics are. I know.

I just hope nobody ever accuses your neighbor without evidence. He has no idea what an insane neighbor he has.

Wait a minute, what kind of trial do you get for being shipwrecked?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wait a minute, what kind of trial do you get for being shipwrecked?

Well that was a strange pile of broken thought.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, per Bradley, the men did not have a radio and did not attempt a distress call.

And:

"Ultimately, Bradley told lawmakers, he ordered a second strike to destroy the remains of the vessel, killing the two survivors, on the grounds that it appeared that part of the vessel remained afloat because it still held cocaine, according to one of the sources. The survivors could hypothetically have floated to safety, been rescued, and carried on with trafficking the drugs, the logic went." - CNN

Oh boy. That's not going to fly.

 

[OODA_Loop]

So, per Bradley, the men did not have a radio and did not attempt a distress call.

And:

"Ultimately, Bradley told lawmakers, he ordered a second strike to destroy the remains of the vessel, killing the two survivors, on the grounds that it appeared that part of the vessel remained afloat because it still held cocaine, according to one of the sources. The survivors could hypothetically have floated to safety, been rescued, and carried on with trafficking the drugs, the logic went." - CNN

Do you believe Bradley is lying to protect Pete Hegseth?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you believe Bradley is lying to protect Pete Hegseth?

Hard to say. The man will save himself, first. The logic laid out doesn't seem befitting of an educated, experienced person, though.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Hard to say. The man will save himself, first. The logic laid out doesn't seem befitting of an educated, experienced person, though.

The logic? Military operations are not based on logic.

Did Admiral Bradley with an exemplary service record order the illegal murder people at sea and is lying to cover for Pete Hegseth?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The logic? Military operations are not based on logic.

Yes, the logic the admiral himself laid out for the second strike.

So now you're saying he is lying. Okay. Maybe you're right.

 

[BULLDOG]

Seems more like Dems are clinging to their overturned narrative even as their fairy tale of sailors "clinging" to a destroyed boat morphs into "overturning" it to continue the mission.

Do you have any idea how absurd that sounds?

 

[BULLDOG]

Comes from or comes through makes no difference...

I agree. How much fentanyl leaves Venezuela and comes to the US? The State Department says virtually none.

 

[Eman623]

Do you have any idea how absurd that sounds?

No. Explain it.

 

[Lockback]

R's are circling the wagons.

Top military officers show lawmakers video of the Sept. 2 boat attack.​

Top military officers showed senior members of Congress a video of a Sept. 2 attack on a boat suspected of carrying drugs, including a follow-up strike that has been at the center of a growing debate over the Trump administration’s lethal mission.

But Republicans and Democrats left the closed-door meetings drawing starkly different conclusions after watching the unedited video of the initial strike on the boat on Sept. 2 and the follow-up that killed the survivors and sank the boat.

Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called the attack “highly lawful and lethal.” He said the video showed two survivors trying to flip a boat “loaded with drugs bound for the United States.” The follow-up missiles were “exactly what we’d expect our military commanders to do,” Mr. Cotton added.

Representative Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was “no doubt” in his mind that the Defense Department was carrying out the strikes in a “highly professional manner.”

But Democrats exited the briefings even more concerned about the campaign against drug smugglers that to date has included strikes on 21 vessels in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean that have killed 83 people.

Representative Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who for years has been read in on sensitive counterterrorism and covert operations, told reporters that the Sept. 2 attack video was “one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”
“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

Imagine my surprise that R's and D's can look at the same video and reach different conclusions. It's a metaphor for the times we live in. Facts can not be agreed upon.

"R's are circling the wagons."

 

[BULLDOG]

No. Explain it.

Continue their mission? There has been no evidence presented that they were anything but fishermen. The boat was bombed out. No working engine or fuel. No radio. International maritime law, and the US military's own rules require rescuing them. Instead we murdered them..

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No. Explain it.

How about you explain how they were going to "continue their mission" with no radio, clinging to half of a capsized boat.

We would all love to hear it.

 

[Lockback]

How about you explain how they were going to "continue their mission" with no radio, clinging to half of a capsized boat.

We would all love to hear it.

 

[Leo123]

R's are circling the wagons.

Top military officers show lawmakers video of the Sept. 2 boat attack.​

Top military officers showed senior members of Congress a video of a Sept. 2 attack on a boat suspected of carrying drugs, including a follow-up strike that has been at the center of a growing debate over the Trump administration’s lethal mission.

But Republicans and Democrats left the closed-door meetings drawing starkly different conclusions after watching the unedited video of the initial strike on the boat on Sept. 2 and the follow-up that killed the survivors and sank the boat.

Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called the attack “highly lawful and lethal.” He said the video showed two survivors trying to flip a boat “loaded with drugs bound for the United States.” The follow-up missiles were “exactly what we’d expect our military commanders to do,” Mr. Cotton added.

Representative Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was “no doubt” in his mind that the Defense Department was carrying out the strikes in a “highly professional manner.”

But Democrats exited the briefings even more concerned about the campaign against drug smugglers that to date has included strikes on 21 vessels in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean that have killed 83 people.

Representative Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who for years has been read in on sensitive counterterrorism and covert operations, told reporters that the Sept. 2 attack video was “one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”
“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

Imagine my surprise that R's and D's can look at the same video and reach different conclusions. It's a metaphor for the times we live in. Facts can not be agreed upon.

“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

He forgot the part about they are narco-gang heavily armed illegal drug runners and would have blown you away if they had the chance. They were following orders to destroy that boat and it happened to take 2 hits to do it. You lefties are so stupid with your TDS afflicted noggins.

 

[Doc7505]

What the **** kind of boat was it, a damn kayak?

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Typical narco fast boats, often referred to as "go-fast vessels," are power boats designed for speed to evade capture while transporting drugs. These boats usually have powerful engines, a low profile, and can carry significant amounts of narcotics, making them effective for smuggling operations from Colombia to Honduras.

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[Lesh]

This administration is committed to stopping ALL illegal drugs.
You do know fentanyl is cut into other drugs?

A. Trump is not committed to stopping drugs when he pardons a drug kingpin who was responsible for hundreds of tons of coke coming into the country.
B. Zero. Zero is the amount of fentanyl that comes from Venezuela

 

[Lesh]

So, per Bradley, the men did not have a radio and did not attempt a distress call.

And:

"Ultimately, Bradley told lawmakers, he ordered a second strike to destroy the remains of the vessel, killing the two survivors, on the grounds that it appeared that part of the vessel remained afloat because it still held cocaine, according to one of the sources. The survivors could hypothetically have floated to safety, been rescued, and carried on with trafficking the drugs, the logic went." - CNN

Oh boy. That's not going to fly.

Not even close

 

[petro]

The Double Tap was because the two remaining narcos climbed back on the boat and were in radio communication with other boats to recover the drugs putting them still in the fight.



We aren't indiscriminately bombing boats. That notion is retarded.
US forces are monitoring radio, radar and satellite data and know way ahead of time where these boats operate.

 

[Billiejeens]

Anyone have an opinion as to whether the guy who was made Sec. of D despite a lack of qualifications, who is a recovering (hopefully) alcoholic, who paid $50K to settle an accusation of sexual assault, who was found to have put our troops in harm's way by the acting IG at the Pentagon, survives this?

None of that's true
Real world.