Lipush
Gold Member
I admit. I'm in favor of two-states-for-two-nations.
But I have to ask for someone authorized to explain... what on earth is it?
Everyone mutters it three times a day, like the standing prayer.
'The Two States Solution'.
Two states for two nations.
Can someone tell me which two nations, two people, are we talking about, here?
Which states?
Let me get this straight, are we talking about a Jewish state and a Palestinian state? Or are we not yet clear on the definitions yet?
I don't get it...- I swear to you, I'm in favor! i'm in favor of two-states-for-two-nations. But I want someone authorized, someone who knows, really knows! not someone who says all day long- "Two states-for-nvfvjkfsnjvfkdnsjkfvdsv"
What is it... what is it "Two states for two nations?" When is it going to happen? WHERE is it going to take place?
Tell me, where it is going to be OUR country, and where is going to be theirs?
I say 'theirs' in a foggy way on purpose, because it's not clear if Gaza is included in that, too, or not. Is it going to be another country, maybe?
it's good. Really good... They discuss it in France, maybe there they are wiser and more creative than us... Because HERE we discuss 3 countries already. One will be Hamas' Gaza. One, West Bank under the PA, same bank in which 500,000 Jews will have to be expelled from, in order to pass the chair to the PA.
So, TWO states for them, and ONE for the Jews.
Or, so far so good.
And I... don't you think not, I'm in favor of Two-States-vfsjkvnfknsvjfk".... Don't you think I'm not. But wait, hold on a second. 80% of Jordan are Palestinians, so it will be correct, and realistic (if we're into real world, that is), to take Jordan into account, and to say it will be FOUR states for TWO nations.
One for the Jews... I mean, if we will still be allowed to keep that name, and THREE to the Palestinians. Gaza, West Bank, and Jordan.
Now, let's say we agreed to that solution. Will we, as Jews, be able to live in Gaza, or Samaria, or any other state?
Not sure.
I don't believe one Jew will want to live in Gaza, or Judea, or Jordan. I don't believe the Palestinians will allow this, either. On the other hand, in the JEWISH state (if we'll be allowed to keep that name, that is) there are 1.5 million Arabs.
Which tells us, that the Two-Sates mantra means, THREE states of "Palestine", CLEAN from Jews, and ONE state which will be open to ALL people, including some Israelis. Fix me if I'm wrong.
And Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the 'Two-States- yada yada yada'
And here I am, saying this sentence and feeling enlightened.
There is nothing more truthful or romantic than this.
But what is it, anyway? how does this enchantment looks like?
Jerusalem? will it be the capital of two states? Do, don't tell me -"We leave it to the end", let's start with it! Because thanks to it, this city now has a new history, where there was no king David or Solomon or holy Temples- it is all,all a Jewish invention, Zionist propaganda, deceit and lies.
Will a fence part the mixed neighborhoods? will there be a super-city hall?
Do people take into account that this conflict is influencing real, living people? Because if it wasn't like this, all would have been much simpler. In that case, all they had to do is pass a pen over a map, to draw some border, and that's it. They know how to do it, they're good at that. look at how the place is, as result of someone passing a green-mark over the map.
I'm in favor of the two... I;m getting tired of saying this. But what happens if on said day Abu-Mazen will leave, or be forced to retire, and Mr. Islma'il Haniye will take over? Will I hear again, the hollow, never proven before sentence, that if one missile is launched near Abu-Tur we will...
I'm in favor, I swear I am... But someone tell me, how's this supposed to work? What will the day after bring? Will they have a military, the will and means to destroy us? Can someone guarantee no terror attack or a second Gaza? Will I have to drive down a road armed, or leave the house with a knife for self defense?
How will this plan, that doesn't see people, but only maps and lands and territories, work?
I swear, I'm in favor of the Two-States solution... But I have no idea what it means.
someone in this world does?
But I have to ask for someone authorized to explain... what on earth is it?
Everyone mutters it three times a day, like the standing prayer.
'The Two States Solution'.
Two states for two nations.
Can someone tell me which two nations, two people, are we talking about, here?
Which states?
Let me get this straight, are we talking about a Jewish state and a Palestinian state? Or are we not yet clear on the definitions yet?
I don't get it...- I swear to you, I'm in favor! i'm in favor of two-states-for-two-nations. But I want someone authorized, someone who knows, really knows! not someone who says all day long- "Two states-for-nvfvjkfsnjvfkdnsjkfvdsv"
What is it... what is it "Two states for two nations?" When is it going to happen? WHERE is it going to take place?
Tell me, where it is going to be OUR country, and where is going to be theirs?
I say 'theirs' in a foggy way on purpose, because it's not clear if Gaza is included in that, too, or not. Is it going to be another country, maybe?
it's good. Really good... They discuss it in France, maybe there they are wiser and more creative than us... Because HERE we discuss 3 countries already. One will be Hamas' Gaza. One, West Bank under the PA, same bank in which 500,000 Jews will have to be expelled from, in order to pass the chair to the PA.
So, TWO states for them, and ONE for the Jews.
Or, so far so good.
And I... don't you think not, I'm in favor of Two-States-vfsjkvnfknsvjfk".... Don't you think I'm not. But wait, hold on a second. 80% of Jordan are Palestinians, so it will be correct, and realistic (if we're into real world, that is), to take Jordan into account, and to say it will be FOUR states for TWO nations.
One for the Jews... I mean, if we will still be allowed to keep that name, and THREE to the Palestinians. Gaza, West Bank, and Jordan.
Now, let's say we agreed to that solution. Will we, as Jews, be able to live in Gaza, or Samaria, or any other state?
Not sure.
I don't believe one Jew will want to live in Gaza, or Judea, or Jordan. I don't believe the Palestinians will allow this, either. On the other hand, in the JEWISH state (if we'll be allowed to keep that name, that is) there are 1.5 million Arabs.
Which tells us, that the Two-Sates mantra means, THREE states of "Palestine", CLEAN from Jews, and ONE state which will be open to ALL people, including some Israelis. Fix me if I'm wrong.
And Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the 'Two-States- yada yada yada'
And here I am, saying this sentence and feeling enlightened.
There is nothing more truthful or romantic than this.
But what is it, anyway? how does this enchantment looks like?
Jerusalem? will it be the capital of two states? Do, don't tell me -"We leave it to the end", let's start with it! Because thanks to it, this city now has a new history, where there was no king David or Solomon or holy Temples- it is all,all a Jewish invention, Zionist propaganda, deceit and lies.
Will a fence part the mixed neighborhoods? will there be a super-city hall?
Do people take into account that this conflict is influencing real, living people? Because if it wasn't like this, all would have been much simpler. In that case, all they had to do is pass a pen over a map, to draw some border, and that's it. They know how to do it, they're good at that. look at how the place is, as result of someone passing a green-mark over the map.
I'm in favor of the two... I;m getting tired of saying this. But what happens if on said day Abu-Mazen will leave, or be forced to retire, and Mr. Islma'il Haniye will take over? Will I hear again, the hollow, never proven before sentence, that if one missile is launched near Abu-Tur we will...
I'm in favor, I swear I am... But someone tell me, how's this supposed to work? What will the day after bring? Will they have a military, the will and means to destroy us? Can someone guarantee no terror attack or a second Gaza? Will I have to drive down a road armed, or leave the house with a knife for self defense?
How will this plan, that doesn't see people, but only maps and lands and territories, work?
I swear, I'm in favor of the Two-States solution... But I have no idea what it means.
someone in this world does?