Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

[John T. Ford]

It comes with no evidence.

Your denial does not erase the evidence that has already been presented.

 

[jknowgood]

Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

townhall.com

Good grief......

What do these assholes need.

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

I bet you have believed every anonymous story about Trump.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

Wow! Worst troll ever.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

townhall.com

Good grief......

What do these assholes need.

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

/-----/ You mean like the fake, phony Russia collusion hoax? Now that was a nothing burger supersized.

 

[Muhammed]

" The mainstream media is covering for Joe and refusing to report the story, arguing that other people besides Joe Biden wanted to see that specific Ukrainian prosecutor go. So what? None of those people ever strongarmed Ukraine into firing the prosecutor. Joe Biden only did that after his son was emailed by his employer asking for his father's help in killing the probes."

And what the MSM also fails to mention is that the only reason the IMF wanted Shokin fired was because Biden wanted him fired. Biden was the one threatening to hold back the $1 billion US treasury loan guarantee which was needed to secure $30 billion in loans from the IMF. Biden could kill the whole deal. So actually Biden wasn't just holding back a $1 billion loan, he was holding back the whole $30 billion package.

Without that $30 billion the Ukrainian government would be insolvent and the rest of the country would have been thrown to the Russians. What was left of it after the Obama administration had already stupidly lost the Crimean peninsula to the Russians.

It's horrible.

It is the exact opposite. His failure to investigate Burisma led to the Obama Administration's policy to withold economic aid until the CORRUPT prosecutor was fired.

And of course you have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. No links, no nothing. You're fucking clueless.

The problem with your idiotic conspiracy theory, which was spoonfed to you by the fake news media, is that it does not jibe with the facts or the timeline of events. According to Shokin's sworn testimony, he was fired because he refused to shut down the case against Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

Look at the timeline. It clearly contradicts your conspiracy theory and supports Shokin's sworn testimony.

Debate Now - The Biden-Ukraine corruption timeline.

Rule #1:No off topic posts. July 21, 2009: Joe Biden meets with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev. Statement by Vice President Biden After Meeting with President Viktor Yushchenko of Ukraine December 22, 2009: Joe Biden speaks on the phone with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Ttmoshenko...

www.usmessageboard.com

April 14, 2014: Treasury Secretary Lew signs Ukraine loan guarantee package.

April 18, 2014: Hunter Biden appointed to Burisma board.

April 22, 2014: Joe Biden meets with Ukrainian officials in Kiev.

February 2015: Viktor Shokin appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

February 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin raids home office and estate of Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

March 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin fired.

As you can clearly see, Shokin did not refuse to investigate Burisma, as you claimed. As a matter of fact, Prosecutor General Shokin obtained a warrant and raided Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy's estate in February of 2016, and Joe Biden got him fired in March of 2016.

Contrary to the lies told by you and the fake news media, it is quite obvious that the case against Burisma was very much active when Shokin was forced out by Biden's threat to cut off aid.

Shokin's firing was obviously in retaliation for his actions against Burisma, not because he refused to investigate Burisma.

The timeline has destroyed your "argument".

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, jackass.

 

[westwall]

Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

townhall.com

Good grief......

What do these assholes need.

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

You Libtards impeached President Trump over something far less damning, and you are calling it a "nothing burger"? How is the air on planet Delusion?

You can’t even name the crime you want Biden impeached for!

I can. Treason. He has aided the chinese by allowing his son to act as a cutout so the chinese could buy defense related companies that they are prohibited from buying.

So, add conspiracy to the charges as well.

There are no charges. The only charge is that he is the son of a political rival. You want to turn this into a banana republic.

If the FBI weren't corrupt, there WOULD be.

 

[Slade3200]

Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

townhall.com

Good grief......

What do these assholes need.

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

You Libtards impeached President Trump over something far less damning, and you are calling it a "nothing burger"? How is the air on planet Delusion?

You can’t even name the crime you want Biden impeached for!

I can. Treason. He has aided the chinese by allowing his son to act as a cutout so the chinese could buy defense related companies that they are prohibited from buying.

So, add conspiracy to the charges as well.

He allowed his son to broker deals with the Chinese? Ok. Which deals and why hasn’t Barr arrested Hunter?

 

[Slade3200]

Are you seriously trying to say that Barr would cover up for Biden if he had evidence of criminal activity.? Are you really gonna do that with a straight face?

It's obvious the FBI did.

and are you going to seriously act like the truth comes out days before an election? Come on man

Have any evidence to suggest any of this is not true?

I didn't think so.

Haha, now I need to prove that unsubstantiated accusations are not true?! Are you shitting me?

 

[Beef_Supreme]

Small problem, none of it is verified..just a small one I know

Actually ... quite a bit of it has been verified.

Just because you would never accept that doesn't change the facts in this case.

You keep parroting "nothing burger" if it makes you feeeeeel better.

Quite a bit huh..so when are the charges going to filed??

Did Hillary commit crimes?
The FBI said she did.
Where are her charges?

To say that no charges means no crime is absurd, especially when it comes to powerful politicians.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If the FBI weren't corrupt, there WOULD be.

If it weren't for Giuliani the FBI would still be sitting on top of Hunter's laptop just waiting to
run out the clock.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Small problem, none of it is verified..just a small one I know

Actually ... quite a bit of it has been verified.

Just because you would never accept that doesn't change the facts in this case.

You keep parroting "nothing burger" if it makes you feeeeeel better.

Quite a bit huh..so when are the charges going to filed??

Did Hillary commit crimes?
The FBI said she did.
Where are her charges?

To say that no charges means no crime is absurd, especially when it comes to powerful politicians.

Like with Trump huh... How many investigations has he bought himself out of, like that Florida DA to dropping her investigation of Trump University after getting a nice doantion from Trump.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

Small problem, none of it is verified..just a small one I know

Actually ... quite a bit of it has been verified.

Just because you would never accept that doesn't change the facts in this case.

You keep parroting "nothing burger" if it makes you feeeeeel better.

Quite a bit huh..so when are the charges going to filed??

Did Hillary commit crimes?
The FBI said she did.
Where are her charges?

To say that no charges means no crime is absurd, especially when it comes to powerful politicians.

Like with Trump huh... How many investigations has he bought himself out of, like that Florida DA to dropping her investigation of Trump University after getting a nice doantion from Trump.

Taking what you say as truth...
Then that kinda destroys your first comment that there was no crime because there was no conviction, doesn’t it?

 

[Beef_Supreme]

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

Wow! Worst troll ever.

Dude literally destroyed his own bullshit premise of “no charges means no crimes”.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen someone contradict their own position so quickly, besides maybe Hoe Hidin.

 

[busybee01]

It comes with no evidence.

Your denial does not erase the evidence that has already been presented.

of
Absolutely no evidence has been presented. Just rambling of crazy Trump supporters.

 

[busybee01]

" The mainstream media is covering for Joe and refusing to report the story, arguing that other people besides Joe Biden wanted to see that specific Ukrainian prosecutor go. So what? None of those people ever strongarmed Ukraine into firing the prosecutor. Joe Biden only did that after his son was emailed by his employer asking for his father's help in killing the probes."

And what the MSM also fails to mention is that the only reason the IMF wanted Shokin fired was because Biden wanted him fired. Biden was the one threatening to hold back the $1 billion US treasury loan guarantee which was needed to secure $30 billion in loans from the IMF. Biden could kill the whole deal. So actually Biden wasn't just holding back a $1 billion loan, he was holding back the whole $30 billion package.

Without that $30 billion the Ukrainian government would be insolvent and the rest of the country would have been thrown to the Russians. What was left of it after the Obama administration had already stupidly lost the Crimean peninsula to the Russians.

It's horrible.

It is the exact opposite. His failure to investigate Burisma led to the Obama Administration's policy to withold economic aid until the CORRUPT prosecutor was fired.

And of course you have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. No links, no nothing. You're fucking clueless.

The problem with your idiotic conspiracy theory, which was spoonfed to you by the fake news media, is that it does not jibe with the facts or the timeline of events. According to Shokin's sworn testimony, he was fired because he refused to shut down the case against Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

Look at the timeline. It clearly contradicts your conspiracy theory and supports Shokin's sworn testimony.

Debate Now - The Biden-Ukraine corruption timeline.

Rule #1:No off topic posts. July 21, 2009: Joe Biden meets with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev. Statement by Vice President Biden After Meeting with President Viktor Yushchenko of Ukraine December 22, 2009: Joe Biden speaks on the phone with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Ttmoshenko...

www.usmessageboard.com

April 14, 2014: Treasury Secretary Lew signs Ukraine loan guarantee package.

April 18, 2014: Hunter Biden appointed to Burisma board.

April 22, 2014: Joe Biden meets with Ukrainian officials in Kiev.

February 2015: Viktor Shokin appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

February 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin raids home office and estate of Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

March 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin fired.

As you can clearly see, Shokin did not refuse to investigate Burisma, as you claimed. As a matter of fact, Prosecutor General Shokin obtained a warrant and raided Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy's estate in February of 2016, and Joe Biden got him fired in March of 2016.

Contrary to the lies told by you and the fake news media, it is quite obvious that the case against Burisma was very much active when Shokin was forced out by Biden's threat to cut off aid.

Shokin's firing was obviously in retaliation for his actions against Burisma, not because he refused to investigate Burisma.

The timeline has destroyed your "argument".

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, jackass.

Shokin is a goddamned liar. Your timeline is the big lie. By the time Biden came to Ukraine to deliver his ultimatum, the investigation into Burisma was already dead.

Daria Kaleniuk, the co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kyiv, Ukraine, credited Biden, the International Monetary Fund — which threatened to delay $40 billion in aid for similar reasons — and others with the prosecutor's removal.


"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

After Shokin left the Prosecutor General's Office, Jan Tombinski, the ambassador from the European Union to Ukraine, called it "an opportunity to make a fresh start."


Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.

In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities, per USA TODAY.

The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.

Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation.

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Despite a Senate GOP investigation that found no wrongdoing by Joe Biden on foreign policy in Ukraine, claims to the contrary continue to circulate.

www.usatoday.com

 

[busybee01]

If the FBI weren't corrupt, there WOULD be.

If it weren't for Giuliani the FBI would still be sitting on top of Hunter's laptop just waiting to
run out the clock.

They are investigating it as a attempt to spread Russian misinformation.

 

[lantern2814]

If the FBI weren't corrupt, there WOULD be.

If it weren't for Giuliani the FBI would still be sitting on top of Hunter's laptop just waiting to
run out the clock.

They are investigating it as a attempt to spread Russian misinformation.

Sorry you lose again. Already been proven to NOT be Russian anything. Try again.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

They are investigating it as a attempt to spread Russian misinformation.

Sure they are. YOU are an attempt to spread Russian misinformation.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Oops: Photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter's Business Partner Found on Burisma's Website

townhall.com

Good grief......

What do these assholes need.

You Trumptards still trying to push that nothing burger down people's throats?..

Then Joe shoulda just said, Yah, that's my son's laptop, so what?

Instead of this constant non stop lying. Now obama is caught up in the lying

 

[Muhammed]

" The mainstream media is covering for Joe and refusing to report the story, arguing that other people besides Joe Biden wanted to see that specific Ukrainian prosecutor go. So what? None of those people ever strongarmed Ukraine into firing the prosecutor. Joe Biden only did that after his son was emailed by his employer asking for his father's help in killing the probes."

And what the MSM also fails to mention is that the only reason the IMF wanted Shokin fired was because Biden wanted him fired. Biden was the one threatening to hold back the $1 billion US treasury loan guarantee which was needed to secure $30 billion in loans from the IMF. Biden could kill the whole deal. So actually Biden wasn't just holding back a $1 billion loan, he was holding back the whole $30 billion package.

Without that $30 billion the Ukrainian government would be insolvent and the rest of the country would have been thrown to the Russians. What was left of it after the Obama administration had already stupidly lost the Crimean peninsula to the Russians.

It's horrible.

It is the exact opposite. His failure to investigate Burisma led to the Obama Administration's policy to withold economic aid until the CORRUPT prosecutor was fired.

And of course you have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. No links, no nothing. You're fucking clueless.

The problem with your idiotic conspiracy theory, which was spoonfed to you by the fake news media, is that it does not jibe with the facts or the timeline of events. According to Shokin's sworn testimony, he was fired because he refused to shut down the case against Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

Look at the timeline. It clearly contradicts your conspiracy theory and supports Shokin's sworn testimony.

Debate Now - The Biden-Ukraine corruption timeline.

Rule #1:No off topic posts. July 21, 2009: Joe Biden meets with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev. Statement by Vice President Biden After Meeting with President Viktor Yushchenko of Ukraine December 22, 2009: Joe Biden speaks on the phone with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Ttmoshenko...

www.usmessageboard.com

April 14, 2014: Treasury Secretary Lew signs Ukraine loan guarantee package.

April 18, 2014: Hunter Biden appointed to Burisma board.

April 22, 2014: Joe Biden meets with Ukrainian officials in Kiev.

February 2015: Viktor Shokin appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

February 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin raids home office and estate of Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy.

March 2016: Prosecutor General Shokin fired.

As you can clearly see, Shokin did not refuse to investigate Burisma, as you claimed. As a matter of fact, Prosecutor General Shokin obtained a warrant and raided Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy's estate in February of 2016, and Joe Biden got him fired in March of 2016.

Contrary to the lies told by you and the fake news media, it is quite obvious that the case against Burisma was very much active when Shokin was forced out by Biden's threat to cut off aid.

Shokin's firing was obviously in retaliation for his actions against Burisma, not because he refused to investigate Burisma.

The timeline has destroyed your "argument".

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, jackass.

Shokin is a goddamned liar. Your timeline is the big lie. By the time Biden came to Ukraine to deliver his ultimatum, the investigation into Burisma was already dead.

You are the liar, fuckface. Not Shokin. And my timeline is well sourced with links, while your's doesn't even exist, you ignorant fool.

Debate Now - The Biden-Ukraine corruption timeline.

Rule #1:No off topic posts. July 21, 2009: Joe Biden meets with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev. Statement by Vice President Biden After Meeting with President Viktor Yushchenko of Ukraine December 22, 2009: Joe Biden speaks on the phone with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Ttmoshenko...

www.usmessageboard.com

If you think any of the specific dates are wrong, feel free to go to the timeline thread in the clean debate section and add the correct date.

That said,

Do have any sort of evidence that the investigation was dead? Because right now you sure are looking like a real fucking idiot.

If the investigation was already dead then how in the hell do you explain the February 2016 raid?

Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine

The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky in Ukraine has been seized, according to the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine (PGO).

en.interfax.com.ua

The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky in Ukraine has been seized, according to the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine (PGO).

"The PGO filed a petition to court to arrest the property of the ex-Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine, the Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, Mykola Zlochevsky, from which arrest was withdrawn, and other property he actually uses, namely housing estate with a total area of 922 square meters, a land plot of 0.24 hectares, a garden house with a total area of 299.8 square meters, a garden house in the territory of Vyshgorod district, a garden house of 2,312 square meters, a land plot of 0.0394 hectares, a Rolls-Royce Phantom car, a Knott 924-5014 trainer," reads the report.

The PGO clarifies that the court satisfied the petition on February 2, 2016.

"Thus, none of the objects of movable and immovable property, which was seized under the previous court ruling, has not been excluded from Zlochevsky's property," the press service said.

Zlochevsky is suspected of committing a criminal offense under Part 3 of Article 368-2 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (illicit enrichment).

How are you going to explain that away you fucking moron?