ONLY under 9% of this covid relief bill actually goes to COVID RELIEF

[harmonica]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

So, you want to actually try to refute the claim or you just here to talk shit?

See post #6. The pie chart below is horseshit because it implies nothing but money allocated for administering shots is actually COVID relief. Got it?

Another bunch that can't figure out that they lost already putting out a doctored chart. That's not proof of anything. The dead giveaway is the part that states "Policies that Destroys Jobs". If things go well, the only jobs that are going to be destroyed are the GOP House Representatives. If it goes bad then pretty much most of Congress is going to get wasted.

You can stop with the attempt at destroying America at any time. Either grab an ore and help row the boat or jump ship. Either way works.

you haven't refuted the OP--not even close

 

[Vrenn]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

Is that so? Then please be so kind as to explain just what percentage of the bill actually goes into coronavirus relief.

The thing that makes the 9% assertion a lie is it narrowly defines "COVID relief" as only the money directly related to administering vaccine shots. IOW, its horseshit for the rubes.

see post # 27

Paid To Stay Homeâ Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K

It is funded through a new $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers. Critics call it a personal bailout for bureaucrats.

www.forbes.com

If you actually read the proposed bill you would see that there is about 500 million left over from the last relief bill and the new one carries that amount forward but does not make it part of the 1.9 T amount. Now, I read some of the bill and find it very, very confusing and I do agree that some parts need to be removed. And it's NOT a bill yet. It's a proposal only.

American Rescue Plan 4Act of 2021’’.

But for the most part, it's about Covid 19 relief. And the amounts are not chiseled in stone like you believe they are. But this bill needs to be shortened up quite a bit and made more clear. Someone is playing "Confuse the Congress" on this one. It's so long that I doubt if any Rep or Senator is going to really read it.

it's RIGHT there in the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!..you can't refute it ---and you did not

I don't refute anything. I posted a link to the real proposed House Bill. And it doesn't agree nor disagree with your made up information. The way it's written, it "Might" be that amount or it "Might" not be. I suggest you get on the horn and contact your Congress Critters and express your opinion. But DON'T use the quote you did use. Stick with what is within the proposed bill itself instead of a failed Republican Businessman/Politician.

 

[harmonica]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

Is that so? Then please be so kind as to explain just what percentage of the bill actually goes into coronavirus relief.

The thing that makes the 9% assertion a lie is it narrowly defines "COVID relief" as only the money directly related to administering vaccine shots. IOW, its horseshit for the rubes.

see post # 27

Paid To Stay Homeâ Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K

It is funded through a new $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers. Critics call it a personal bailout for bureaucrats.

www.forbes.com

If you actually read the proposed bill you would see that there is about 500 million left over from the last relief bill and the new one carries that amount forward but does not make it part of the 1.9 T amount. Now, I read some of the bill and find it very, very confusing and I do agree that some parts need to be removed. And it's NOT a bill yet. It's a proposal only.

American Rescue Plan 4Act of 2021’’.

But for the most part, it's about Covid 19 relief. And the amounts are not chiseled in stone like you believe they are. But this bill needs to be shortened up quite a bit and made more clear. Someone is playing "Confuse the Congress" on this one. It's so long that I doubt if any Rep or Senator is going to really read it.

it's RIGHT there in the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!..you can't refute it ---and you did not

I don't refute anything. I posted a link to the real proposed House Bill. And it doesn't agree nor disagree with your made up information. The way it's written, it "Might" be that amount or it "Might" not be. I suggest you get on the horn and contact your Congress Critters and express your opinion. But DON'T use the quote you did use. Stick with what is within the proposed bill itself instead of a failed Republican Businessman/Politician.

hahahhahahahahhahha
don't use facts!!! hahahhahah loving it!!!!!

 

[sparky]

It's about time you folks figured this out....~S~

 

[harmonica]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

Is that so? Then please be so kind as to explain just what percentage of the bill actually goes into coronavirus relief.

The thing that makes the 9% assertion a lie is it narrowly defines "COVID relief" as only the money directly related to administering vaccine shots. IOW, its horseshit for the rubes.

see post # 27

Paid To Stay Homeâ Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K

It is funded through a new $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers. Critics call it a personal bailout for bureaucrats.

www.forbes.com

If you actually read the proposed bill you would see that there is about 500 million left over from the last relief bill and the new one carries that amount forward but does not make it part of the 1.9 T amount. Now, I read some of the bill and find it very, very confusing and I do agree that some parts need to be removed. And it's NOT a bill yet. It's a proposal only.

American Rescue Plan 4Act of 2021’’.

But for the most part, it's about Covid 19 relief. And the amounts are not chiseled in stone like you believe they are. But this bill needs to be shortened up quite a bit and made more clear. Someone is playing "Confuse the Congress" on this one. It's so long that I doubt if any Rep or Senator is going to really read it.

it's RIGHT there in the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!..you can't refute it ---and you did not

I don't refute anything. I posted a link to the real proposed House Bill. And it doesn't agree nor disagree with your made up information. The way it's written, it "Might" be that amount or it "Might" not be. I suggest you get on the horn and contact your Congress Critters and express your opinion. But DON'T use the quote you did use. Stick with what is within the proposed bill itself instead of a failed Republican Businessman/Politician.

.....ANY way you slice it, it is totally insane dumbshit...they should be LAYING off federal workers--they are a highly privileged class

 

[CrusaderFrank]

ONLY under 9% of this covid relief bill actually goes to COVID RELIEF... the balance goes to Nancy Pelosi'i Bull- Shit ......those damn swamp creatures aka Democrats are pathetic.
And wnen the Republicans vote it down, the uninformed blame them for being "Mean".

McCarthy Reveals Shocking Percentage of COVID Relief Bill That Is Actually About COVID-19

Nancy and the dems have been working with the CCP to destroy America. First, the dems conspired with the CCP to launch the bioweapon coordinated with the fake first Impeachment, next they conspired with CCP and Iran to steal the election, finally they are working to remove the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.

 

[JGalt]

• $1.5 million earmarked for the Seaway International Bridge, which connects New York to Canada. Senate Leader Chuck Schumer hails from New York.
• $50 million for “family planning” – going to non-profits, i.e. Planned Parenthood, or public entities, including for “services for adolescents[.]”
• $852 million for AmeriCorps, AmeriCorps Vista, and the National Senior Service Corps – the Corporation for National and Community Service – civic volunteer agencies. This includes $9 million for the AmeriCorp inspector general to conduct oversight and audits of the largess. AmeriCorps received a $1.1 billion FY2020 appropriation.
• $15 per hour – which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says will cost the economy 1.4 million jobs
• $200 million in the bill to The Institute of Museum and Library Services (FY2019 budget: $230 million). This agency is so small that it doesn’t even employ an inspector general.
• $270 million funds the National Endowment of the Arts and the Humanities (FY2019 budget: $253 million) – In 2017, our study showed eighty-percent of all non-profit grant making flowed to well-heeled organizations with over $1 million in assets.
• $350 billion to bailout the 50 States and the District of Columbia. The allocation formula uses the unemployment rate in the fourth quarter of 2020. Therefore, states like New York and California –who had strict economic lockdown policies and high unemployment – will get bailout money. States like Florida and South Dakota – who were open for business – will get less.
• $128.5 billion to fund K-12 education. The CBO determined that most of the money in education will be distributed in 2022 through 2028, when the pandemic is over.
• $86 billion to save nearly 200 pension plans insured by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. There are no reforms mandated while these badly managed pensions are bailed-out. Many of these pension plans are co-managed by unions.
• $50 billion goes to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). A portion of these funds is earmarked to reimburse up to $7,000 for funeral and burial costs related to Covid-19 deaths.
• $39.6 billion to higher education. This amount is three times the money – $12.5 billion – that higher ed received with the massive CARES Act funding from last March.
• $1.5 billion for Amtrak – the National Railroad Passenger Corporation. In FY2020, Congress appropriated $3 billion for Amtrak ($2 billion in annual appropriations, plus an additional $1 billion in the CARES Act COVID relief bill). In the three years before the pandemic, AMTRAK lost $392 million – even after a $5 billion taxpayer subsidy (FY2017-FY2019).
• Is There Wasteful Spending In The New $1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

 

[Vrenn]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

Is that so? Then please be so kind as to explain just what percentage of the bill actually goes into coronavirus relief.

The thing that makes the 9% assertion a lie is it narrowly defines "COVID relief" as only the money directly related to administering vaccine shots. IOW, its horseshit for the rubes.

see post # 27

Paid To Stay Homeâ Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K

It is funded through a new $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers. Critics call it a personal bailout for bureaucrats.

www.forbes.com

If you actually read the proposed bill you would see that there is about 500 million left over from the last relief bill and the new one carries that amount forward but does not make it part of the 1.9 T amount. Now, I read some of the bill and find it very, very confusing and I do agree that some parts need to be removed. And it's NOT a bill yet. It's a proposal only.

American Rescue Plan 4Act of 2021’’.

But for the most part, it's about Covid 19 relief. And the amounts are not chiseled in stone like you believe they are. But this bill needs to be shortened up quite a bit and made more clear. Someone is playing "Confuse the Congress" on this one. It's so long that I doubt if any Rep or Senator is going to really read it.

it's RIGHT there in the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!..you can't refute it ---and you did not

I don't refute anything. I posted a link to the real proposed House Bill. And it doesn't agree nor disagree with your made up information. The way it's written, it "Might" be that amount or it "Might" not be. I suggest you get on the horn and contact your Congress Critters and express your opinion. But DON'T use the quote you did use. Stick with what is within the proposed bill itself instead of a failed Republican Businessman/Politician.

.....ANY way you slice it, it is totally insane dumbshit...they should be LAYING off federal workers--they are a highly privileged class

Workers shouldn't BE laid off. And if they are, they need to eat, heat the homes, clothe the children,etc.. And that is exactly what the Covid Relief bill is supposed to help with.

And if you Mask Karens and Deniers would wear that damned mask and stay outside of 6 feet, we could open up the jobs, schools and many other things. All it would take is about 2 months with the Vaccine and the CDC guidelines. But no, I predict that my Vaccine immunity will run out after about 5 to 6 months and we will be worse off than we are right now because we didn't follow the guidelines.

 

[Vrenn]

• $1.5 million earmarked for the Seaway International Bridge, which connects New York to Canada. Senate Leader Chuck Schumer hails from New York.
• $50 million for “family planning” – going to non-profits, i.e. Planned Parenthood, or public entities, including for “services for adolescents[.]”
• $852 million for AmeriCorps, AmeriCorps Vista, and the National Senior Service Corps – the Corporation for National and Community Service – civic volunteer agencies. This includes $9 million for the AmeriCorp inspector general to conduct oversight and audits of the largess. AmeriCorps received a $1.1 billion FY2020 appropriation.
• $15 per hour – which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says will cost the economy 1.4 million jobs
• $200 million in the bill to The Institute of Museum and Library Services (FY2019 budget: $230 million). This agency is so small that it doesn’t even employ an inspector general.
• $270 million funds the National Endowment of the Arts and the Humanities (FY2019 budget: $253 million) – In 2017, our study showed eighty-percent of all non-profit grant making flowed to well-heeled organizations with over $1 million in assets.
• $350 billion to bailout the 50 States and the District of Columbia. The allocation formula uses the unemployment rate in the fourth quarter of 2020. Therefore, states like New York and California –who had strict economic lockdown policies and high unemployment – will get bailout money. States like Florida and South Dakota – who were open for business – will get less.
• $128.5 billion to fund K-12 education. The CBO determined that most of the money in education will be distributed in 2022 through 2028, when the pandemic is over.
• $86 billion to save nearly 200 pension plans insured by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. There are no reforms mandated while these badly managed pensions are bailed-out. Many of these pension plans are co-managed by unions.
• $50 billion goes to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). A portion of these funds is earmarked to reimburse up to $7,000 for funeral and burial costs related to Covid-19 deaths.
• $39.6 billion to higher education. This amount is three times the money – $12.5 billion – that higher ed received with the massive CARES Act funding from last March.
• $1.5 billion for Amtrak – the National Railroad Passenger Corporation. In FY2020, Congress appropriated $3 billion for Amtrak ($2 billion in annual appropriations, plus an additional $1 billion in the CARES Act COVID relief bill). In the three years before the pandemic, AMTRAK lost $392 million – even after a $5 billion taxpayer subsidy (FY2017-FY2019).
• Is There Wasteful Spending In The New $1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

One HUGE problem. When I started to add up the "Includes" about 4 lines deep it exceeded the 1.9 trillion. It appears that there are two or three bill lumped together for this claim. One is the Covid Relief Bill and another is the Federal Budget Bill. While the source "Open Books" is normally reliable, in this case it appears that they dropped the ball. This is why I posted the link to the actual Proposed Covid Relief Bill of 2021. It doesn't line up with all those other claims.

 

[Flash]

$19 billion is for payoff to New York for their incompetent Democrat leadership. Bailing out failed Socialist programs that were never going to work in the first place.

By the way, a lot of that money goes to reimburse the Democrat run Communist states that closed down their schools in order to kiss the ass of the filthy Teacher's unions.

 

[JGalt]

• $1.5 million earmarked for the Seaway International Bridge, which connects New York to Canada. Senate Leader Chuck Schumer hails from New York.
• $50 million for “family planning” – going to non-profits, i.e. Planned Parenthood, or public entities, including for “services for adolescents[.]”
• $852 million for AmeriCorps, AmeriCorps Vista, and the National Senior Service Corps – the Corporation for National and Community Service – civic volunteer agencies. This includes $9 million for the AmeriCorp inspector general to conduct oversight and audits of the largess. AmeriCorps received a $1.1 billion FY2020 appropriation.
• $15 per hour – which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says will cost the economy 1.4 million jobs
• $200 million in the bill to The Institute of Museum and Library Services (FY2019 budget: $230 million). This agency is so small that it doesn’t even employ an inspector general.
• $270 million funds the National Endowment of the Arts and the Humanities (FY2019 budget: $253 million) – In 2017, our study showed eighty-percent of all non-profit grant making flowed to well-heeled organizations with over $1 million in assets.
• $350 billion to bailout the 50 States and the District of Columbia. The allocation formula uses the unemployment rate in the fourth quarter of 2020. Therefore, states like New York and California –who had strict economic lockdown policies and high unemployment – will get bailout money. States like Florida and South Dakota – who were open for business – will get less.
• $128.5 billion to fund K-12 education. The CBO determined that most of the money in education will be distributed in 2022 through 2028, when the pandemic is over.
• $86 billion to save nearly 200 pension plans insured by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. There are no reforms mandated while these badly managed pensions are bailed-out. Many of these pension plans are co-managed by unions.
• $50 billion goes to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). A portion of these funds is earmarked to reimburse up to $7,000 for funeral and burial costs related to Covid-19 deaths.
• $39.6 billion to higher education. This amount is three times the money – $12.5 billion – that higher ed received with the massive CARES Act funding from last March.
• $1.5 billion for Amtrak – the National Railroad Passenger Corporation. In FY2020, Congress appropriated $3 billion for Amtrak ($2 billion in annual appropriations, plus an additional $1 billion in the CARES Act COVID relief bill). In the three years before the pandemic, AMTRAK lost $392 million – even after a $5 billion taxpayer subsidy (FY2017-FY2019).
• Is There Wasteful Spending In The New $1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

One HUGE problem. When I started to add up the "Includes" about 4 lines deep it exceeded the 1.9 trillion. It appears that there are two or three bill lumped together for this claim. One is the Covid Relief Bill and another is the Federal Budget Bill. While the source "Open Books" is normally reliable, in this case it appears that they dropped the ball. This is why I posted the link to the actual Proposed Covid Relief Bill of 2021. It doesn't line up with all those other claims.

There's a lot of shit in that bill that we don't even know about.

I suppose like Pelosi once said, we just need to pass the pill so we can see what's in it, eh?

 

[j-mac]

Workers shouldn't BE laid off. And if they are, they need to eat, heat the homes, clothe the children,etc.. And that is exactly what the Covid Relief bill is supposed to help with.

Really? They shouldn't be laid off? Why? If I in the private sector can be laid off why not them? They can collect unemployment just like the rest of American's....

And if you Mask Karens and Deniers would wear that damned mask and stay outside of 6 feet, we could open up the jobs, schools and many other things. All it would take is about 2 months with the Vaccine and the CDC guidelines. But no, I predict that my Vaccine immunity will run out after about 5 to 6 months and we will be worse off than we are right now because we didn't follow the guidelines.

Wow, this is pure unadulterated bull shit right here....Here's an article from last October on that very thing...

"THURSDAY, Oct. 22, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- Here's good news for public health officials who've been hammering home the need to wear face masks: Your messages have been getting through.

A new HealthDay/Harris Poll shows that more Americans than ever are donning face masks to protect against COVID-19 infection."

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

So, we have been masking up, and from what I see, we have been doing what the protocols are calling for, and people are still getting sick....

This thing remids me that it may just be a back door way to institute control over the freedoms of the American people...And all of this prolonging of the virus is just a way to control us and remove our freedoms...

 

[colfax_m]

And all of this prolonging of the virus

We are trying to end the pandemic, not prolong it.

 

[asaratis]

ONLY under 9% of this covid relief bill actually goes to COVID RELIEF... the balance goes to Nancy Pelosi'i Bull- Shit ......those damn swamp creatures aka Democrats are pathetic.
And wnen the Republicans vote it down, the uninformed blame them for being "Mean".

And when did that thought burst into your mind?

First of all, you have zero corroborating information to go with that outburst. 2nd, there are enough Congressional Republicans that are in favor of it already after the removal of the min wage which is a forgone conclusion. 3rd, the Dems don't need a single Republican Vote to pass it. There was enough Dems that wanted the min wage removed that it's being removed and will be passed by the House, Senate and signed by Biden by mid March.

Please stop lying. You lost the election, get over it.

Read to OP link, lefty. The election going questionably to Biden has nothing to do with the claims made about this pork-stuffed bill. The claims made are verifiable simply by reading the bill. It is replete with multi-billion dollar payments to foreign nations, many of which are enemies of the United States. Other billions of dollars are meant to bailout liberal states for their own pitiful financial management.

Nancy Pelosi and her minions in the House represent nothing more than a cash cow for the Democrat ruined states and cities.

American voters would be wise to vote NOT for one single Democrat candidate in 2022...at any level of government. The sleazy bastards do not deserve to be in any position of power in the government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE.

The Democrat Party doesn't care at all what the people want or need.

 

[j-mac]

And all of this prolonging of the virus

We are trying to end the pandemic, not prolong it.

Yeah right...

 

[colfax_m]

Yeah right...

Sure are. Get your vaccine and encourage everyone else to get it too.

That’s how this ends.

 

[Turtlesoup]

I'd like to thank all three of you knuckle dragging simps for providing a classic example that is illustrative of how the minds of triggered Trumpletons take a pile of horseshit and expound on it.

Geebus--ANOTHER lib communist and/or foreign troll using insults when they don't like the FACTs. Don't worry, Berg, I am sure no one has noticed this childish tactic of you trolls.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

ONLY under 9% of this covid relief bill actually goes to COVID RELIEF... the balance goes to Nancy Pelosi'i Bull- Shit ......those damn swamp creatures aka Democrats are pathetic.
And wnen the Republicans vote it down, the uninformed blame them for being "Mean".

And when did that thought burst into your mind?

First of all, you have zero corroborating information to go with that outburst. 2nd, there are enough Congressional Republicans that are in favor of it already after the removal of the min wage which is a forgone conclusion. 3rd, the Dems don't need a single Republican Vote to pass it. There was enough Dems that wanted the min wage removed that it's being removed and will be passed by the House, Senate and signed by Biden by mid March.

Please stop lying. You lost the election, get over it.

I know you're new and all but he provided a link.
And you want to talk about corroborating information yet you dont give any yourself.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Let's look at the big picture here: With what little of the relief bill is actually stimulating the general economy, wages and production will not keep up with the massive inflation this bill is going to cause. The FED's money-printing machines are running full speed, yet there are still not enough available goods and services to justify having that much money in circulation.

The next few years are going to be rough, folks. Democrats don't seem to understand one simple concept: You can't spend your way into prosperity. Especially if it means spending billions of dollars to pay off those entities that helped you get elected, while giving American citizens a hearty "fuck you."

It's either spend it or you get your wish for a full blown Civil War. One that you won't like the outcome.

Oh really?
And how exactly do you think a civil war would turn out?

 

[asaratis]

And all of this prolonging of the virus

We are trying to end the pandemic, not prolong it.

Yeah right...

They're deliberately prolonging the "fear of the virus". They have no actual control over the virus.

If the Democrat Party wants to abate the spread of the virus in the US, they need to finish the wall and close our southern border to all but LEGAL IMMIGRATION! Instead, these idiotic pricks want to abolish ICE.

We have restrictions on arrivals of all people by way of international flights into the US, but no check on illegal aliens entering via our open border....and they are coming in by the thousands, thanks to the Biden Crime Family's open invitation and promise of citizenship.

Vote against ALL Democrat Party candidates in 2022! ALL of them!!!