Only criminals are against gun-free zones

[Ray From Cleveland]

If just two or three of the Parkland teachers had been armed, many lives might have been saved.

Or he would not have chosen that particular school. He would have found one where nobody was armed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You know, the term "gun free zones" has been misused by the gun lovers. They will try to convince you that it means that because it is a gun free zone, that means criminals will go there more often to kill, because there aren't supposed to be guns there.

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

But because of the gun free zone law, there is another felony tacked on top of all the other charges.

I like the idea of gun free zones, because if a person commits a crime in them with a gun, they can go away for an extra 5 to 10 years.

You wouldn't like it so much if you were the victim though.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You know, the term "gun free zones" has been misused by the gun lovers. They will try to convince you that it means that because it is a gun free zone, that means criminals will go there more often to kill, because there aren't supposed to be guns there.

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

But because of the gun free zone law, there is another felony tacked on top of all the other charges.

I like the idea of gun free zones, because if a person commits a crime in them with a gun, they can go away for an extra 5 to 10 years.

Of the last 10 mass shootings, how many were places were carrying a concealed weapon is a crime?

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[Ray From Cleveland]

What exactly is a gun free zone supposed to accomplish? The law abiding responsible gun owner is not going to take a gun in one and a person set on carrying out a mass shooting or any other gun crime in one won't give a dam if it's a gun free zone.

I know a lot of CCW holders, and a few of them have told me they ignore the No Gun signs of an establishment. Their reasoning is that if a criminal does choose that business to rob or kill, at least they would have a chance at defending themselves. They would sort out their legal problems later, but at least they'd be alive to do it.

 

[Timmy]

Schools are "gun-free zones." How's that working out?

Again....................because they are called "gun free zones", anyone caught with an unauthorized gun, or caught committing a crime in them has extra charges tacked on to their shooting charges. That law allows the courts to tack on even more time for crimes committed in places like schools.

Granted, it's not much solace if the gunman kills themselves, but if they are taken alive, they get an extra 5 to 10 years on top of their original charges.

Meanwhile law abiding firearms carrying people can not carry there so can not respond when a random shooting occurs. As was shown in parkland the gunman reloaded at least 5 times because no one as able to stop him.

Parkland had an armed deputy . So it wasn’t a gun free zone .

 

[Clementine]

Only criminals are against gun-free zones.


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The title of this thread is bullshit and should not be in politics. Flame zone, maybe. You are so full of shit.

 

[flacaltenn]

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

Oh yeah.. Typical leftist miscalculation. As THO -- mass murderers are a'feared of yet one more felony.

No. gun free zones advertise free fire zones to the crazies. Bloomberg lied to the public about the number of "school shootings" in 2017, by including every midnight drug deal gone bad in the parking lot, to accidental discharges by security patrols and suicides under the bleachers. ALL of those are potential felonies and virtually NONE of them were inhibited by "gun free zone" laws..

 

[flacaltenn]

Gun free zones are a great idea. Someone planning a mass killing knows that there will be no guns around so they have no worries of being shot at.

Once you have decided to kill one or a number of people I really doubt that adding a few extra years on to a life sentence or death by lethal injection would tend to enter into the persons thought process.

The only thing that a gun free zone does is make some people feel better. While making a better target for those that have nefarious plans because it will be a longer reaction time.

An interesting thing...................after the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas school shooting, a Republican said we need to end gun free zones.

GOP state rep calls for end to gun-free zones after Florida shooting

But, in this article about the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas school shooting, there was an ARMED SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, who failed to do their job and stayed outside instead of going in and confronting the gunman.

Florida school shooting: School resource deputy stayed outside - CNN

So, even in places that are designated as gun free zones, there can still be armed people authorized to be there with guns. And, like I said, if you are going to arm someone to protect the students, make sure they have the stones to do the job and not puss out like the school resource officer did.

A defender ATTACKED by a mass murderer is definitely more motivated to respond, than a retired cop on the OUTSIDE who has no idea where to approach the shooter. Just a fact of tactical defense.

There's no need to waste yourself running into an ambush, if you're LOOKING at the shooter and know how they are armed..

 

[anotherlife]

Gun free zones are patently unfair.

Everyone can make a mistake in life. Inventing extra punishments on them is not only a trickery to finance more bureaucrats, but also a perversion of the very purpose of law generally.

 

[gipper]

You know, the term "gun free zones" has been misused by the gun lovers. They will try to convince you that it means that because it is a gun free zone, that means criminals will go there more often to kill, because there aren't supposed to be guns there.

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

But because of the gun free zone law, there is another felony tacked on top of all the other charges.

I like the idea of gun free zones, because if a person commits a crime in them with a gun, they can go away for an extra 5 to 10 years.

That’s funny. You think a crook who plans a mass murder is concerned about another felony charge, for doing it in a gun free zone.

LMFAO!!!

No, what’s funny and idiotic is the moronic notion that a criminal spends the time ‘researching’ a venue to determine if it’s ‘gun free’ before committing his crime.

And you dig an even bigger hole, by positing a strawman argument. Are you related to Big Ears?

The OP clearly thinks crooks don’t seek out gun free zones, so as to avoid being charged with an additional felony. If you believe that, you are even dumber than you look.

 

[Maxdeath]

Gun free zones are a great idea. Someone planning a mass killing knows that there will be no guns around so they have no worries of being shot at.

Once you have decided to kill one or a number of people I really doubt that adding a few extra years on to a life sentence or death by lethal injection would tend to enter into the persons thought process.

The only thing that a gun free zone does is make some people feel better. While making a better target for those that have nefarious plans because it will be a longer reaction time.

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

There is no evidence whatsoever that a criminal planning to commit an act of gun violence ‘seeks out’ a venue designated as ‘gun free’ to commit his crime because he’ll realize no armed opposition.

You are trying to build a hypothesis on something that does not exist. You claim that there is no evidence that a criminal uses a gun free zone in their planning yet a large number of mass shootings happen in so called gun free zones. A so called gun free zone let the parkland shooter reload five times.

You really have to wonder about the thought processes of those who not only think up misnomers like gun free zones but advocate for them. It is called a gun free zone but yet people are allowed to carry guns. In most states first degree murder carries a maximum sentence do you think that tacking on a few extra years really acts as a deterrent?

Gun free zones only make the half wits feel safer.

 

[petro]

Schools are "gun-free zones." How's that working out?

About as well as being non speeding school zones...

 

[airplanemechanic]

That speed limit is only between the times posted on the sign. It doesn't mean that person is speeding just because it says 40. The speed limit on that road might be 55 at all other times.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You know, the term "gun free zones" has been misused by the gun lovers. They will try to convince you that it means that because it is a gun free zone, that means criminals will go there more often to kill, because there aren't supposed to be guns there.

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

But because of the gun free zone law, there is another felony tacked on top of all the other charges.

I like the idea of gun free zones, because if a person commits a crime in them with a gun, they can go away for an extra 5 to 10 years.

So IOW they don't do a god damned thing to prevent shootings

Thank you.

 

[petro]

That speed limit is only between the times posted on the sign. It doesn't mean that person is speeding just because it says 40. The speed limit on that road might be 55 at all other times.

The signs here are only on during school hours.
Two just got struck at local school crossing in broad daylight in crosswalk with flashing lights.

Two points.
Signs fix nothing.

A kid will most likely suffer from a traffic or pedestrian accident far before ever seeing a shooter in their school.

 

[Conservative65]

You know, the term "gun free zones" has been misused by the gun lovers. They will try to convince you that it means that because it is a gun free zone, that means criminals will go there more often to kill, because there aren't supposed to be guns there.

Only problem is, that is kind of a misnomer. Gun free zones means that if you are caught with a gun, or committing a crime with a gun in those places, they tack on another felony. Before they had the gun free zone law, a person who committed a shooting in a place like a school would be charged only with the shooting and the other charges that go with it.

But because of the gun free zone law, there is another felony tacked on top of all the other charges.

I like the idea of gun free zones, because if a person commits a crime in them with a gun, they can go away for an extra 5 to 10 years.

Does that change what the criminal did and mean those killed are less dead because the criminal gets more years?