One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years

[Challenger]

Everywhere else in the world Coast Guards intercept the suspect boat, search it, arrest the smugglers if contraband is found and no one gets killed. Surely you are not suggesting Palestinian fishing boats are capable of out running coastguard cutters?

I don't know you, so i will give you the benefit of the doubt, unlike the piece of trash who opened this thread, and will speak civilly towards you for the moment.

What you've posted is patently false, as the Navies patrolling the waters off eastern africa have the option of using deadly force against suspected pirates posing as fishermen, and the chinese and others in the straits of malacca are also operating on a similar set of orders.

The Anti-Piracy Business ? Warning Shots and the Rules of Engagement » Gunpowder & Lead

Are you accusing Palestinian fishermen of being pirates?

 

[aris2chat]

Palestinians did not all hold title to the land they were living on or working.
They didn't want to pay taxes, they didn't want to do military service, they did not understand they had to pay taxes and file ownership. Land not registered and paid up on would become state land, part of the land fund or be sold off. Land cannot be left vacant and unused. State wants the taxes from the land and/or the products grown and sold from the land.

 

[docmauser1]

Hardly "proven" as neither CAMERA nor NGO Monitor could in any way be classed as "objective" as they both lack international credibility being generally considered Pro-Israel advocacy organisations.

Indeed, those two can't compete with years of soviets, funding of the western lefties, and now with a lavishly funded international arab agitprop, lapped happily.

 

[Billo_Really]

Billo, I've always gotten the impression that although dogmatic about Islam, you are at least fair.

I don't give a shit about Islam. I don't give a shit about Judaism. It's not my dance! I'm a white, Irish Catholic. Those religions have nothing to do with my daily life. And that being as such, I have no reason to hate them, nor do I have any reason to like them. If other people do, I'm fine with that. That's them. Not me.

But the issue between the Israeli's and the Pals, is not a religious one. It's a political one. It's not about Jews and Muslims, it's about Israeli's and a population of arabs forced to live under military martial law for almost a half century.

Now, about these videos...

So, please give this a fair hearing and tell me what you think afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfN2IvnIA4M

I liked it. I see his point and agree with what he said about the technology part of it. I don't agree with his conclusion people hate Israel because they are envious. People hate Israel, because Israel has done some things people should hate.

The Israeli's don't seem to want to be held accountable for the things they've done and there are far too many people making excuses for their behavior.

Or if you would prefer someone with Middle Eastern sensibilities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fnTHyyvzWg

That one was a little long. I watched as much as I could. I disagree with her premise that Israel is the victim. Israel is the aggressor. By the very nature of maintaining the occupation for 47 years, makes them the aggressor. If there was no occupation and Israel was still getting rockets, I'd be on the side of Israel.

Here is one for extra fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMp60uHAnfA

That dudes a trip. Someone needs to tell him, the Old Testament is a nice read and all, but it carry's no weight in international law today. And it shouldn't. Church and state, must be kept separate.

At least that's my take. If you disagree, I'm fine with that. I believe disagreement is healthy. A world where everyone thinks the same thing, would really suck!

 

[Billo_Really]

Moron, why are jews not allowed to travel to other places, but muslims are?

Because muslims get resident visas from the authority having jurisdiction.

What settlers have gotten visas from the PA?

 

[Billo_Really]

Naval blockade of gaza is legal under San Remo and Palmer report.

>>The Panel considers the conflict should be treated as an international one for the purposes of the law of blockade. This takes foremost into account Israel’s right to self-defence against armed attacks from outside its territory. In this context, the debate on Gaza’s status, in particular its relationship to Israel, should not obscure the realities. The law does not operate in a political vacuum, and it is implausible to deny that the nature of the armed violence between Israel and Hamas goes beyond purely domestic matters.<<

The Palmer Report was not commissioned to determine the legality of the blockade. It had no experts on international maritime law on their commission. The head of the commission, had a serious conflict of interest with Israel. They did not talk to any witnesses that were on board the Mavi Marmara. All their information was submitted to them by Israel and Turkey. It was an extremely flawed report that has since been denounced by the world community.

There was a more comprehensive report by the UNHRC FFM, which did have international experts and was commissioned to determine the legality of the blockade, found it to be illegal. Not only did they find it to be illegal, they called it a war crime.

 

[Billo_Really]

Just like I thought, the deaths of the 3 teenagers, were at the hands of the Israeli's!

Were the Three Settler Kidnappings an Israeli “False Flag” Operation?

Evidence that came to light after Israel removed its gag order on information regarding the June 12 kidnapping and murder of three Jewish Israeli students suggests that it could have been an Israeli government operation that was intentionally used to punish Hamas and break up the new Palestinian unity government.

On July 1, Israel removed a gag order on information about the kidnapping that revealed shocking facts:

&#9726;The Israeli government had informed members of the press around June 15th that it was aware that the students had been killed but placed a gag order on that information: the government must thus have known where the bodies were. The brutal “search” was merely cover for punishment of members of Hamas, the democratically-elected party of Palestinians throughout the occupied territories. The Israeli media played along with the pretext for the abuse.

&#9726;The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were only called in 8-9 hours after the first call to report the kidnapping. One of the students placed a call to the police emergency hotline 10 minutes after they accepted a hitchhiking ride home, with the message that he was being kidnapped. The statement was followed by what sounded like several gunshots, groans and silence; the call lasted for 49 seconds. Police ignored the call. The teen’s father called police 5 hours later, at 3:30 am, to report his son missing. “Several hours” after that, after an exchange of 54 phone calls, the IDF and Shin Bet finally became involved.

&#9726;Despite possession of all of the evidence of the kidnappings and murders, the Israeli government has offered no evidence that indicates responsibility for the acts. Those with any direct connection to the phone calls or the finding of the bodies have remained unidentified.​

Israel killed 3 of its own, just so Netanfuckyou could break up the unity government.

 

[Andylusion]

You want to talk about killing children?

The Palestinian's pale in comparison to the kids Israel has slaughtered.

Official statistics from the Ministry of Information in Ramallah have revealed that 1,518 Palestinian children were killed by Israel’s occupation forces from the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000 up to April 2013. That’s the equivalent of one Palestinian child killed by Israel every 3 days for almost 13 years. The ministry added that the number of children injured by the Israelis since the start of the Second Intifada against Israel’s occupation has now reached 6,000.

During world war 1, Germans gathered up high school students, and college students, and sent them in waves at British and French forces.

They were completely and utterly slaughtered.

Whose fault was that?

Stop sending Palestinian kids at Israel.

And quite frankly, I don't see Israelis dancing in the streets, and having festivals when Palestinian kids are killed.

It's really hard for me give a crap what happens to Palestinian kids, when Palestinian people dance when Israeli kids get killed.

 

[docmauser1]

Because muslims get resident visas from the authority having jurisdiction. What settlers have gotten visas from the PA?

Since when do the PA settlers issue visas?

 

[Andylusion]

Just like I thought, the deaths of the 3 teenagers, were at the hands of the Israeli's!

Were the Three Settler Kidnappings an Israeli “False Flag” Operation?

Evidence that came to light after Israel removed its gag order on information regarding the June 12 kidnapping and murder of three Jewish Israeli students suggests that it could have been an Israeli government operation that was intentionally used to punish Hamas and break up the new Palestinian unity government.

On July 1, Israel removed a gag order on information about the kidnapping that revealed shocking facts:

&#9726;The Israeli government had informed members of the press around June 15th that it was aware that the students had been killed but placed a gag order on that information: the government must thus have known where the bodies were. The brutal “search” was merely cover for punishment of members of Hamas, the democratically-elected party of Palestinians throughout the occupied territories. The Israeli media played along with the pretext for the abuse.

&#9726;The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were only called in 8-9 hours after the first call to report the kidnapping. One of the students placed a call to the police emergency hotline 10 minutes after they accepted a hitchhiking ride home, with the message that he was being kidnapped. The statement was followed by what sounded like several gunshots, groans and silence; the call lasted for 49 seconds. Police ignored the call. The teen’s father called police 5 hours later, at 3:30 am, to report his son missing. “Several hours” after that, after an exchange of 54 phone calls, the IDF and Shin Bet finally became involved.

&#9726;Despite possession of all of the evidence of the kidnappings and murders, the Israeli government has offered no evidence that indicates responsibility for the acts. Those with any direct connection to the phone calls or the finding of the bodies have remained unidentified.​

Israel killed 3 of its own, just so Netanfuckyou could break up the unity government.

You are so full of crap. Nothing here suggests Israelis killed the kids.

And honestly that changes nothing. The fact that Palastinians were dancing in the streets, makes them dogs. They are dogs.

No one human, no decent human, dances in the street when someone else loses their children.

Dogs do that. Do you understand dogs? Dogs don't care when Fido dies. They have a party when someone throws a bone. Human, decent worth while humans, never have a party when a parent find out their son or daughter is dead.

DOGS. They are dogs.

This one issue has completely changed everything for me. Every tiny shred of compassion for the Palestinians has been swept away by their actions. As far as I'm concerned, Israel should wipe them out. These dogs have no value to humanity.

 

[docmauser1]

It's not about Jews and Muslims, it's about Israeli's and a population of arabs forced to live under military martial law for almost a half century.

Is that the reason palistanian fems rank second after the saudi ones in obesity?

 

[docmauser1]

... Each interceptor missile costs between $35 000 and $55 000 to shoot down just one of these $20 fertilizer firecrackers...and they keep coming no matter how ineffective they are in military terms...and the money keeps flowing from the US taxpayer into the IDF coffers. ...

Indeed! Clamoring for and implementing a proportionate response is the way to go. Israeli guvmint should licence small local metalworking shops for production of those fertilizer firecrackers to be shot by locals in the general direction of Gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

Just like I thought, the deaths of the 3 teenagers, were at the hands of the Israeli's!

Were the Three Settler Kidnappings an Israeli “False Flag” Operation?

Evidence that came to light after Israel removed its gag order on information regarding the June 12 kidnapping and murder of three Jewish Israeli students suggests that it could have been an Israeli government operation that was intentionally used to punish Hamas and break up the new Palestinian unity government.

On July 1, Israel removed a gag order on information about the kidnapping that revealed shocking facts:

&#9726;The Israeli government had informed members of the press around June 15th that it was aware that the students had been killed but placed a gag order on that information: the government must thus have known where the bodies were. The brutal “search” was merely cover for punishment of members of Hamas, the democratically-elected party of Palestinians throughout the occupied territories. The Israeli media played along with the pretext for the abuse.

&#9726;The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were only called in 8-9 hours after the first call to report the kidnapping. One of the students placed a call to the police emergency hotline 10 minutes after they accepted a hitchhiking ride home, with the message that he was being kidnapped. The statement was followed by what sounded like several gunshots, groans and silence; the call lasted for 49 seconds. Police ignored the call. The teen’s father called police 5 hours later, at 3:30 am, to report his son missing. “Several hours” after that, after an exchange of 54 phone calls, the IDF and Shin Bet finally became involved.

&#9726;Despite possession of all of the evidence of the kidnappings and murders, the Israeli government has offered no evidence that indicates responsibility for the acts. Those with any direct connection to the phone calls or the finding of the bodies have remained unidentified.​

Israel killed 3 of its own, just so Netanfuckyou could break up the unity government.

You need better evidence than this to support your RABID NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED.

 

[aris2chat]

>>UN Palmer Commission report that will be formally presented to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday says Israel&#8217;s naval blockade of Gaza was a &#8220;legitimate security measure&#8221; to prevent arms smuggling into Gaza.

The report, which was obtained and published by The New York Times on Thursday, concluded that Israel faces &#8220;a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza. The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.&#8221;

One Israeli government official said, however, that the findings &#8220;clearly show that Israel&#8217;s actions were in accordance with international law, both in imposing the naval blockade and in enforcing it. We think both countries should accept the report and seize its recommendations as an opportunity to restore the relationship between the two countries for their benefit, and for the benefit of regional stability.&#8221;

The Palmer Commission wrote that the flotilla &#8220;acted recklessly in attempting to breach the naval blockade. The majority of the flotilla participants had no violent intentions, but there exist serious questions about the conduct, true nature and objectives of the flotilla organizers, particularly IHH. The actions of the flotilla needlessly carried the potential for escalation.&#8221;<<

 

[MHunterB]

Seriously, Billo? "Global Research" is nothing like an actual news source: they pimp conspiranutter BS filth all the time.

That's hilarious - or it would be, if it weren't so nauseating.

 

[Billo_Really]

Seriously, Billo? "Global Research" is nothing like an actual news source: they pimp conspiranutter BS filth all the time.

That's hilarious - or it would be, if it weren't so nauseating.

So what you're saying is you have no evidence and no argument to dispute the story?

So you go on your stupid little juvenile smear campaign rant with the hopes of discrediting the source.

GR is one of the leading alternative media outlets in the world and are linked to more colleges and universities than any other online media source.

Your comment is as stupid as saying Michael Jordan wasn't that good of a basketball player.

 

[Billo_Really]

>>UN Palmer Commission report that will be formally presented to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday says Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza was a “legitimate security measure” to prevent arms smuggling into Gaza.

The report, which was obtained and published by The New York Times on Thursday, concluded that Israel faces “a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza. The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.”

One Israeli government official said, however, that the findings “clearly show that Israel’s actions were in accordance with international law, both in imposing the naval blockade and in enforcing it. We think both countries should accept the report and seize its recommendations as an opportunity to restore the relationship between the two countries for their benefit, and for the benefit of regional stability.”

The Palmer Commission wrote that the flotilla “acted recklessly in attempting to breach the naval blockade. The majority of the flotilla participants had no violent intentions, but there exist serious questions about the conduct, true nature and objectives of the flotilla organizers, particularly IHH. The actions of the flotilla needlessly carried the potential for escalation.”<<

Did you read what I said? Or are you deliberately ignoring it?

Are you that morally bankrupt?

 

[Billo_Really]

You need better evidence than this to support your RABID NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED.

Where's your evidence proving it's false?

 

[Billo_Really]

You are so full of crap. Nothing here suggests Israelis killed the kids.

And honestly that changes nothing. The fact that Palastinians were dancing in the streets, makes them dogs. They are dogs.

No one human, no decent human, dances in the street when someone else loses their children.

Dogs do that. Do you understand dogs? Dogs don't care when Fido dies. They have a party when someone throws a bone. Human, decent worth while humans, never have a party when a parent find out their son or daughter is dead.

DOGS. They are dogs.

This one issue has completely changed everything for me. Every tiny shred of compassion for the Palestinians has been swept away by their actions. As far as I'm concerned, Israel should wipe them out. These dogs have no value to humanity.

First off, them "dancing" is just bullshit Israeli propaganda and second, when you constantly treat them like they are sub-human, deliberately murdering their children, actively trying to wipe them out, trashing them non-stop 24/7, why wouldn't they dance?

And what's with this bullshit deer-in-the-headlights look after all the shit you reaped on them for the last 47 years?

 

[Billo_Really]

During world war 1, Germans gathered up high school students, and college students, and sent them in waves at British and French forces.

They were completely and utterly slaughtered.

Whose fault was that?

Stop sending Palestinian kids at Israel.

And quite frankly, I don't see Israelis dancing in the streets, and having festivals when Palestinian kids are killed.

It's really hard for me give a crap what happens to Palestinian kids, when Palestinian people dance when Israeli kids get killed.

The majority of Palestinian kids are murdered from Israeli missile strikes while they are sleeping in their bedrooms.