One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years

[Billo_Really]

E-Bully.

He deliberately lies constantly, yet I'm the bully?

 

[Billo_Really]

So is Hustler.com

That's a cool site to.

 

[Billo_Really]

Why of course you do, BilloBS: they accept absolutely whatever any Palestinian or 'activist' tells them as being absolute truth.

Well, unless you post evidence to the contrary, what other choice do I have?

I'm not going to think a story is false for no reason whatsoever.

 

[Yarddog]

Theyre limited to where they can fish because of smuggling in weapons.

Why can't they have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have the right to defend themselves?

Well, you need weapons to do that with.

You could call BS on that, except for the fact that Hammaas is constantly firing rockets from Gaza,

The rockets are in response to the occupation, which was going on 34 years before the first rocket was ever fired.


Did you read what I said?

They were shot at while they were FISHING!





Who the **** shoots at someone fishing?


They have no right to search any.

What Gazans do in their own territorial waters, is none of Israel's god-damn business.

Its not a nice situation for Palestinians, but it doesnt approach what Hitler did to the Jews. The Jews were not provoking with violence for one thing, and also Hitlers plan was to Gas them all until not one Jew was left. the only thing that prevented that was the end of the war, otherwise they would have all been dead.

It's not as bad as the Holocaust, but it is similar to the years leading up to it.

The Pals are demonized 24/7 and treated like they're sub-human
They're blamed for all the problems in the country
Violence against them is accepted
They're being ethnically cleansed from the area
There are laws that make them 2nd class citizens​

How is the hatred the Nazis had for the Jews, any different than the hatred people have for the Palestinian's?

Palestinians have other problems and a lot of them are internal and surrounding people who would like to use the palestinians to get to Israel, Its not a simple thing to solve.

Wrong! The problem is the Israeli's and the occupation.

The occupation itself, is the cause of all the violence.

Well it looked like they were shooting at the water, not them. They could have sunk the boat in an instant. And you cant tell from the video if the patrol had already told them to turn around.

I understand the Israelis are harsh and I totaly understand why a lot of people feel the way you do.But anyway we cant really understand unless we have lived there, our opinions are just that to some extent.

Sure, Palestinians have a right to get weapons, and then again, The Israelis have a right to try and stop them. As long as the rockets keep comming from Gaza it is like a war. When Israel gave up Gaza, the palestinians didnt even give peace a chance. You remember that right? It was Rockets Immediately, so it could have been a different
chain of events if that had gone down differently

If its all about the occupation, then why is Iran so bent on destroying Israel? They are Shia and the Palestinians are Sunni Muslims. So, I think the occupation is just an excuse for some over there.

 

[Phoenall]

Theyre limited to where they can fish because of smuggling in weapons.

Why can't they have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have the right to defend themselves?

Well, you need weapons to do that with.

You could call BS on that, except for the fact that Hammaas is constantly firing rockets from Gaza,

The rockets are in response to the occupation, which was going on 34 years before the first rocket was ever fired.


Did you read what I said?

They were shot at while they were FISHING!





Who the **** shoots at someone fishing?


They have no right to search any.

What Gazans do in their own territorial waters, is none of Israel's god-damn business.

Its not a nice situation for Palestinians, but it doesnt approach what Hitler did to the Jews. The Jews were not provoking with violence for one thing, and also Hitlers plan was to Gas them all until not one Jew was left. the only thing that prevented that was the end of the war, otherwise they would have all been dead.

It's not as bad as the Holocaust, but it is similar to the years leading up to it.

The Pals are demonized 24/7 and treated like they're sub-human
They're blamed for all the problems in the country
Violence against them is accepted
They're being ethnically cleansed from the area
There are laws that make them 2nd class citizens​

How is the hatred the Nazis had for the Jews, any different than the hatred people have for the Palestinian's?

Palestinians have other problems and a lot of them are internal and surrounding people who would like to use the palestinians to get to Israel, Its not a simple thing to solve.

Wrong! The problem is the Israeli's and the occupation.

The occupation itself, is the cause of all the violence.

I am not allowed to carry any weapons, so what is your point. They don't need weapons for defence because they are not defending, they want weapons for attack and terrorism.


The occupation is in response to terrorism, violence and murder that is now escalating into rocket attacks. So stop all violence and talk peace and mutual borders and the occupation will end.


No evidence of that from your video, why are these video's always starting half way through the action and not at the beginning were the Palestinians are provoking the response. Or it could show that they were retrieving a package from the sea containing illegal weapons.


Actually they can as you have been told before, there is a blockade in place that is legal If they so wished they could stop all fishing and seed the sea with contact mines.


Act sub human and what can you expect
Cause the problem in the first place and you will be blamed
Violence by then is expected so retaliation should also be expected
More today than there was yesterday, where is that ethnic cleansing. The people who are being ethnically cleansed are the Christians done by 900%
Then that is the fault of their own government making those laws. Israel has imposed no laws on the Palestinians, but they have imposed martial law on the west bank.

Simple the Palestinians started the hatred themselves, and now the tables have turned they complain about it.


The problem is they are violent arrogant and blood thirsty, that is not Israel's doing. They were just the same in 1947 before Israel was reborn, in fact they were 10 times worse in 1929 when they went on the rampage and mass murdered Jews. How are those things the fault of Israel ?
The Occupation is as a direct result of the violence, and every sane person understands that.

 

[Phoenall]

Well B'Tselem make the figure 1,381 children killed by the IDF over the same time frame. They are usually scrupulous in their analyses of casualties, so your figure is broadly accurate.

I like B'Tselem! That's a good website!

It also panders to your ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED doesn't it

 

[Phoenall]

Yes they can, they just cant leave them and encroach on other nations territorial waters. They know the limits and will pass them to pick up smuggled weapons dropped in the shallow seas by people on larger boats. That is a breach of the blockade and under the judgement of the ICJ the IDF is quite legal in firing on the smugglers.


Why even the USA Coast guard fire on fishermen inside their territorial waters if they believe they are smugglers.

The only judgment the ICJ made regarding Israel, was in a dispute they had with Bulgaria, back in 1955.

So you're a ******* liar!

Try again as they have been approached by nations wanting to have Israel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. and the ICJ have said there is no case to answer. Judgements don't need to be court cases you know, they can be interpretations of existing laws. Lets just say the Palmer report chaired by an ICJ lawyer found the blockade to be legal.

 

[Phoenall]

The Arabs never accepted the " 67 Borders" Israel does not have to accept them now. Israel is never going to be deprived of E. Jerusalem where their most religious sites are.

Abbas wants more then the " 67 Borders"; Something you and others " forget" to mention .

Israel has no other choice.

You can't hold onto land seized in a war.

They are not holding on to land seized in war, they are occupying land as a means of defence.

Read the Geneva conventions that deal with this and see what the Palestinians need to do to reclaim occupation of the land.


You are aware that under international law Palestine has no legal borders and must sit down and talk peace and mutually accepted borders. Which is why the UN can never accept them as full members.

 

[Phoenall]

Here you go


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/a...dom-flotilla-assault-condemned-as-a-whitewash

it declared controversially that Israel's naval blockade on Gaza is legitimate: "The naval blockade was imposed [by Israel]as a legitimate security measure" and "the Panel therefore concludes that Israel's naval blockade was legal."



This report was written by many lawyers who were working with the ICC and ICJ

The blockade was imposed because the Israeli's didn't like the results of a fair and democratic election in Gaza.

How many times are you going to bring up that bullshit Palmer Report. They were not commissioned to determine the legality of the blockade. I've already debunked this report about a half-dozen times. Yet you still keep trying to use it.

No you have not, all you have done is went of on an ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED RANT. you see you are not qualified to debunk anything as you have had no training in the subject. If the US make murder illegal how can you decide that it isn't. If the UN decides the blockade is legal how can you overrule them

 

[Phoenall]

Yes they can, they just cant leave them and encroach on other nations territorial waters. They know the limits and will pass them to pick up smuggled weapons dropped in the shallow seas by people on larger boats. That is a breach of the blockade and under the judgement of the ICJ the IDF is quite legal in firing on the smugglers.


Why even the USA Coast guard fire on fishermen inside their territorial waters if they believe they are smugglers.

The only judgment the ICJ made regarding Israel, was in a dispute they had with Bulgaria, back in 1955.

So you're a ******* liar!

Oh, so the foul-mouthed swaggering bully bellows.......

It shows that he is losing the argument and has to rely on shock tactics to claw something back

 

[Phoenall]

In the cases where such shootings have been investigated and some IDF troop found responsible, the troop is punished. Not as much as many would prefer to see - but there IS punishment.

They rarely investigate any shootings and almost never punish anyone.

Billo and others have been ignoring facts in favor of exaggeration and demonization of not just the IDF, but every citizen of Israel...by repeatedly calling ALL 'settlers' 'legit targets' (that's half a million human beings), by 'legitimating' violence against Israeli Jews as 'deserved' and claiming 'Palestinians (including citizens of Israel) have no choice' but to seek to murder their neighbors - just where is that 'argument' of theirs leading????

You just have to keep telling lies, don't you?

Show the post where I "demonized" every citizen of Israel, or go **** yourself!

As far as the settlers go, they all are legitimate targets. It is illegal for an occupying power to transfer part of its population into an "occupied" area.

Fourth Geneva Convention
Section III. Occupied territories

Article 49 - Population transfer
The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

And nationals of an occupying power are not protected persons...

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.

[p.45] ARTICLE 4 -- DEFINITION OF PROTECTED PERSONS

B. -- ' In occupied territories; ' protection is accorded to all persons who are not of the nationality of the occupying State.

...therefore, they are legal targets.

1) How about some evidence to support your claim from an unbiased source.

2) Every time you act as you are here, just a foul mouthed NAZI JEW HATER aren't you
Then as far as the Palestinians go they are also valid targets , it is illegal to harbour terrorists and murderers

3) They haven't if you even bother to look, they signed a treaty with the PLO that allowed then to recover Jewish owned land in the west bank. So they are protected persons, or the Palestinians are not protected persons.

4) Then so are the Palestinians and you cant moan when children get shot because you are advocating the killing of Jewish children.

 

[YellowBird]

Billo and other duded pro Palestinians act as if these Palestinian children are killed by IDF soldiers who come to their house, walk up to them and shoot them for no reason.
In reality, these Palestinians are killed when they are involved in clashes with soldiers in the West Bank, trying to damage the fence and ignoring orders to stop, when Israel retaliates against Hamas rockets by launching air strikes.

So here is a lesson for Palestinians, who obviously have an extremely low IQ and/or have been brainwashed/encouraged to partake in hostilities:

Don't take part in clashes/riots , staw away from the fence and don't associate with Hamas.

Not that hard, is it???

And smile while Israel break international law and continue to build on Palestinian land.

 

[Indofred]

You want to talk about killing children?

The Palestinian's pale in comparison to the kids Israel has slaughtered.

Official statistics from the Ministry of Information in Ramallah have revealed that 1,518 Palestinian children were killed by Israel’s occupation forces from the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000 up to April 2013. That’s the equivalent of one Palestinian child killed by Israel every 3 days for almost 13 years. The ministry added that the number of children injured by the Israelis since the start of the Second Intifada against Israel’s occupation has now reached 6,000.

Seen that list before, dumbass. Most of them are actually young boys ranging from 15 to 22 recruited as terrorist operatives, and the rest are those that were killed as a result of the Palestinian terrorist cowards hiding behind kids.

Please link to this claim.

 

[Indofred]

I'm not willing to assume those 'statistics' are in any way accurate. It's obvious when you use inflammatory rhetoric and obviously biased "sources" that you're not interested in facts or discussion, but only making more drunken-sounding rants and disgusting bombastic threats.

I've been unable to think of you as an adult since you started flailing around posting pics of the battleship 'Missouri' and making asinine threats against a US ally.

Now run along and study how to spell four letter words correctly........

Taking into account the Pallywood effect the actual number is probably two to five percent of what is being quoted.

Please link to this claim

 

[Indofred]

You want to talk about killing children?

The Palestinian's pale in comparison to the kids Israel has slaughtered.

Yeah well statistics are made to be manipulated. There are many more muslims being slaughtered every day by muslims in that region than ever will by Israel.
Read what Arafat did to the people in Damour Lebanon, all the christians who have been killed there and had to leave. Muslims killing muslims in syria and Iraq. The slaughter that has been going on so long in Sudan, but when the United nations get together the only evil one is Israel.

They have done bad things but they are not alone. No one over there is pure and theres no reason to pretend. The slaughter of the Armenians by the Muslim turks was much worse than anything israel ever did. Israels occupation of the West Bank can be disputed but they really dont deserve the demonization they get.

In three days alone in 1971 Jordanians killed ten times more Palestinians than Israel has since 1948.

Please link to this claim

 

[Indofred]

You have to resort to photshopped crap in order to make your point?
If that's the best you can do, you clearly have no valid argument.

 

[Billo_Really]

Well it looked like they were shooting at the water, not them. They could have sunk the boat in an instant. And you cant tell from the video if the patrol had already told them to turn around.

God-dammit, they were in Gazan territorial waters where Israel has no jurisdiction and it is illegal for them to even be in the area. The lengths people go to justify anything Israel does is amazing.

I understand the Israelis are harsh and I totaly understand why a lot of people feel the way you do.But anyway we cant really understand unless we have lived there, our opinions are just that to some extent.

You don't have to live there, to know shooting at people fishing and farming is wrong. You don't have to live there to know it's wrong to detain people indefinitely without charges. You don't have to live there to know that collectively punishing an entire population of people who have committed no crime because you didn't like who they voted for in a fair and democratic election is wrong.

And you don't have to live there to know maintaining an illegal and immoral occupation for almost 50 years goes way beyond harsh.

Sure, Palestinians have a right to get weapons, and then again, The Israelis have a right to try and stop them.

No they don't! Where is it legal for a country to interfere in another country's trade militarily? If you were in Somalia, they'd call it piracy.

As long as the rockets keep comming from Gaza it is like a war.

But it's not a war, it's an occupation. An occupation that was going on for 37 years before the first rocket attack.

And what's the big ******* deal about these rocket attacks anyway? You talk as though they're ICBM's with MIRV warheads. They're homemade munitions that have only killed 28 people in 11 years. Most of them fall harmlessly in the desert. But all of them, are in response to the occupation.

When Israel gave up Gaza, the palestinians didnt even give peace a chance. You remember that right? It was Rockets Immediately, so it could have been a different
chain of events if that had gone down differently

Israel didn't give up Gaza. They still maintain "effective control" of over 80% of the area. That satisfies the definition of an occupation.

If its all about the occupation, then why is Iran so bent on destroying Israel? They are Shia and the Palestinians are Sunni Muslims. So, I think the occupation is just an excuse for some over there.

Iran is not trying to destroy Israel and hasn't attacked another country in over 200 years.

 

[Billo_Really]

1) How about some evidence to support your claim from an unbiased source.

The ICRC is a biased site?

**** you!

 

[Phoenall]

Billo and other duded pro Palestinians act as if these Palestinian children are killed by IDF soldiers who come to their house, walk up to them and shoot them for no reason.
In reality, these Palestinians are killed when they are involved in clashes with soldiers in the West Bank, trying to damage the fence and ignoring orders to stop, when Israel retaliates against Hamas rockets by launching air strikes.

So here is a lesson for Palestinians, who obviously have an extremely low IQ and/or have been brainwashed/encouraged to partake in hostilities:

Don't take part in clashes/riots , staw away from the fence and don't associate with Hamas.

Not that hard, is it???

And smile while Israel break international law and continue to build on Palestinian land.

I will ask you the same question I ask all the other ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS.......

Where is your evidence to support your claims, The people who work at the ICJ have stated that Israel has not breached any International law. And Palestine has no borders until it agrees to meet and talk peace and mutually defined and agreed borders.
Now produce your evidence from an unbiased source like the UN, ICJ and ICC to support your LIBELS

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah well statistics are made to be manipulated. There are many more muslims being slaughtered every day by muslims in that region than ever will by Israel.
Read what Arafat did to the people in Damour Lebanon, all the christians who have been killed there and had to leave. Muslims killing muslims in syria and Iraq. The slaughter that has been going on so long in Sudan, but when the United nations get together the only evil one is Israel.

They have done bad things but they are not alone. No one over there is pure and theres no reason to pretend. The slaughter of the Armenians by the Muslim turks was much worse than anything israel ever did. Israels occupation of the West Bank can be disputed but they really dont deserve the demonization they get.

In three days alone in 1971 Jordanians killed ten times more Palestinians than Israel has since 1948.

Please link to this claim

Here you go freddy the definitive account of the mass murders of Palestinians by their own people

Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Casualties[edit]

See also: Palestinian casualties of war

Estimates of the number of the people killed in the ten days of Black September range from three thousand to more than five thousand, although exact numbers are unknown. The Palestinian death toll in 11 days of fighting was estimated by Jordan at 3,400, while Palestinian sources often cite the number 5,000, mainly civilians, killed. Arafat at some point claimed that 10,000 had been killed.[27][28] The Western reporters were concentrated at the Intercontinental Hotel, away from the action.[citation needed] Nasser's state-controlled Voice of the Arabs from Cairo reported genocide. One cameraman was shot dead in the Intercontinental Hotel, Jordanian tanks fired straight through the hotel and there was a heavy machine gun firing from the roof of the hotel.