OMG.....The Markets Keep Going UP....What Will We Do Now?

[mudwhistle]

OH NOSE........the markets keep going back up!!!

What will you little leftists do about it?

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[WelfareQueen]

OH NOSE........the markets keep going back up!!!

What will you little leftists do about it?

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But, but, but....TRUMP!!!!!

 

[Foxfyre]

OH NOSE........the markets keep going back up!!!

What will you little leftists do about it?

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And when those trade deals are finalized and most of those tariffs start coming off, I and most honest economists--I am not an economist--fully expect to see the market come roaring back to new heights.

And when that happens I expect those approval ratings that have been sliding for a few weeks now to start going up again.

 

[mudwhistle]

But, but, but....TRUMP!!!!!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

OH NOSE........the markets keep going back up!!!

What will you little leftists do about it?

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So does gold.

Double win.



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[mudwhistle]

And when those trade deals are finalized and most of those tariffs start coming off, I (and most honest economists--I am not an economist--fully expect to see the market come roaring back to new heights.

And when that happens I expect those approval ratings that have been sliding for a few weeks now to start going up again.

I'm sure Democrats have something horrible up their sleeves to prevent this.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I'm sure Democrats have something horrible up their sleeves to prevent this.

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Or think they do.


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[Foxfyre]

I'm sure Democrats have something horrible up their sleeves to prevent this.

Well their 98% negative/dishonest news reporting didn't stop it before. More and more people are beginning to see how dishonest the Democrats and their dutiful surrogate media have been. It is fast becoming much more difficult for the people to be manipulated by all that.

 

[Sunni Man]

I can't wait to see how the dishonest Demtards put a negative spin on this?

 

[Eman623]

I can't wait to see how the dishonest Demtards put a negative spin on this?

If history is any judge they will fall back on the "The Trump economy is good for Wall Street, not Main Street!"

Market goes down - blame Trump. Market goes up - blame Trump. Market stays the same - do you see where this is going?

 

[WelfareQueen]

And when those trade deals are finalized and most of those tariffs start coming off, I and most honest economists--I am not an economist--fully expect to see the market come roaring back to new heights.

And when that happens I expect those approval ratings that have been sliding for a few weeks now to start going up again.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/05/04/insideradvantages_matt_towery_theres_a_blackout_on_accurate_pollsters.html

I saw a post on Real Clear Politics today. The polls by the MSM are fake. Completely fake. About 3 weeks before the election last year I started listening to Mark Halprin's podcast. He had 4 pollsters on who he considered the best. Insider Advantage, Trafalgar Group, Emerson and Rasmussen. All four had Trump winning the election and most had him winning all the swing states. They had Trump's popular vote margin of victory between 1.5-2%. Trump obviously won all the swing states and his margin of victory in the popular vote was around 1.6%. These ended up being the 4 most accurate pollsters in the last election cycle. They have also been the most accurate pollsters for the last 3 election cycles.

Surprisingly, no one in the MSM will quote or use these 4 pollsters. Nate Silver, as an example, uses an aggregate of msm polls but excludes these 4 pollsters. Nate Silver has been wrong every election cycle since 2016.

Trump is actually up 2% in approval ratings. About 10% are undecided, but when pressed 70-80% of the undecideds break for Trump. Trump is doing fine with the American people. Do not believe the msm polls. They are garbage.

 

[1srelluc]

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[my2¢]

I wish folks here would stop jinxing things.

 

[Foxfyre]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/05/04/insideradvantages_matt_towery_theres_a_blackout_on_accurate_pollsters.html

I saw a post on Real Clear Politics today. The polls by the MSM are fake. Completely fake. About 3 weeks before the election last year I started listening to Mark Halprin's podcast. He had 4 pollsters on who he considered the best. Insider Advantage, Trafalgar Group, Emerson and Rasmussen. All four had Trump winning the election and most had him winning all the swing states. They had Trump's popular vote margin of victory between 1.5-2%. Trump obviously won all the swing states and his margin of victory in the popular vote was around 1.6%. These ended up being the 4 most accurate pollsters in the last election cycle. They have also been the most accurate pollsters for the last 3 election cycles.

Surprisingly, no one in the MSM will quote or use these 4 pollsters. Nate Silver, as an example, uses an aggregate of msm polls but excludes these 4 pollsters. Nate Silver has been wrong every election cycle since 2016.

Trump is actually up 2% in approval ratings. About 10% are undecided, but when pressed 70-80% of the undecideds break for Trump. Trump is doing fine with the American people. Do not believe the msm polls. They are garbage.

I hope you're right. I watch the RCP polling averages regularly and, according to them, his approval has slipped about 4 or 5 points overall and that would be looking at each important individual issue as well. And I attribute that to the 98% negative and dishonest coverage by the media and the huge hit the market has taken for awhile.

But I think when the market returns to its former heights, and especially if we get a bit of relief at the grocery store, all those issue polls will return to positive territory. I fully expect that to happen during this summer.

 

[1srelluc]

Down a hair in the closing hour but certainly not the "Market Crash Mondy" the dems were predicting.

 

[Foxfyre]

Down a hair in the closing hour but certainly not the "Market Crash Mondy" the dems were predicting.

Yup. The futures looked pretty rough early this morning but the DJIA was positive most of the day and it nor the NASDAQ or S&P closed anywhere near as low as it looked like they might. I suspect some intentional selling in the last hour to ensure a negative close but that may just be my natural suspicious nature coming out.

 

[WelfareQueen]

I hope you're right. I watch the RCP polling averages regularly and, according to them, his approval has slipped about 4 or 5 points overall and that would be looking at each important individual issue as well. And I attribute that to the 98% negative and dishonest coverage by the media and the huge hit the market has taken for awhile.

But I think when the market returns to its former heights, and especially if we get a bit of relief at the grocery store, all those issue polls will return to positive territory. I fully expect that to happen during this summer.

Those 4 pollsters helped keep me sane leading up to the election last year. They were absolutely accurate and gave solid, logical reasons on what they were seeing in the polling data versus what the msm polls were missing. I have complete faith they are accurate.

As a quick aside, one of the ways msm polls skews the results is so called Independent Voters. Where do you survey independent voters nationally? Good question right, because a so-called independent voter in Arkansas let's say, probably leans to the right, while a so-called independent voter in San Franciso likely leans left.

So, the msm will heavily survey independent voters in large urban centers that are far more likely to skew left. They have done this for years. They also will over survey female or minority voters who trend more to the left.

They have plenty of tricks depending on the agenda. And at the 100 day mark the agenda is to make Trump look as bad as possible.

 

[Foxfyre]

Those 4 pollsters helped keep me sane leading up to the election last year. They were absolutely accurate and gave solid, logical reasons on what they were seeing in the polling data versus what the msm polls were missing. I have complete faith they are accurate.

As a quick aside, one of the ways msm polls skews the results is so called Independent Voters. Where do you survey independent voters nationally? Good question right, because a so-called independent voter in Arkansas let's say, probably leans to the right, while a so-called independent voter in San Franciso likely leans left.

So, the msm will heavily survey independent voters in large urban centers that are far more likely to skew left. They have done this for years. They also will over survey female or minority voters who trend more to the left.

They have plenty of tricks depending on the agenda. And at the 100 day mark the agenda is to make Trump look as bad as possible.

That a new and most likely accurate wrinkle I honestly hadn't thought of. Thank you for that..

 

[Mack The Finger]

OH NOSE........the markets keep going back up!!!

What will you little leftists do about it?

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Make $$$ ?

Which B&H DEM got caught with a ton of stock she always cried about ?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Those 4 pollsters helped keep me sane leading up to the election last year. They were absolutely accurate and gave solid, logical reasons on what they were seeing in the polling data versus what the msm polls were missing. I have complete faith they are accurate.

As a quick aside, one of the ways msm polls skews the results is so called Independent Voters. Where do you survey independent voters nationally? Good question right, because a so-called independent voter in Arkansas let's say, probably leans to the right, while a so-called independent voter in San Franciso likely leans left.

So, the msm will heavily survey independent voters in large urban centers that are far more likely to skew left. They have done this for years. They also will over survey female or minority voters who trend more to the left.

They have plenty of tricks depending on the agenda. And at the 100 day mark the agenda is to make Trump look as bad as possible.

One other thing. I have really become a student of polling as I guess you can tell. A great way to measure voter intensity is primary voting, because most primary voters are the hardcore of each respective party. So, in a Presidential year look very closely at primary voting. In 2016 the GOP and Trump had a +8% turnout advantage over Hillary in primary voting, That's how I knew those polls were wrong. There was much more enthusiasm on the GOP side. I told many on this board the election was much, much closer than the polls were indicating. I was right.

In 2024 the same thing happened. Many more GOP voters showed up in the primaries than for the Dims. I would roughly say take the primary vote advantage and divide by 4. That should be close to your final margin of victory.