the other mike
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Let's just run on corn ethanol.The cure for higher fuel prices in the future is higher fuel prices now? Dude!
Except corn flakes will be $20 a box and our motors will only last 4 years.
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Let's just run on corn ethanol.The cure for higher fuel prices in the future is higher fuel prices now? Dude!
If that's God's plan, so be it.So like 10,000 years of uranium left?
When I was a kid , I thought we'd be travelling like the Jetson's by 2020.God's wants us to build fossil fuel power plants everyplace there's no electricity ... duh ... we're supposed to burn fossil fuels to better the human condition ... plus warm things up some ... who the hell likes snow? ...
Let's just run on corn ethanol.The cure for higher fuel prices in the future is higher fuel prices now? Dude!
Except corn flakes will be $20 a box and our motors will only last 4 years.
Well oil we now know replenishes and coal, we have sooo much of hard to say we would ever run out.Peak oil has passed.Drowning in pollution and debt.
Why would we be drowning in pollution?
The solution to debt is to use more expensive, less reliable energy?
When it get's to the last 10 - 20 % of coal and petroleum left in the ground
it will be devastating for whoever is unprepared.
Our way of life will totally change.
OTR trucking will shut down and every region will go local
,hyperinflation we can't imagine. Karma I say.
When trees grow, they use water, and can deplete the water enough to kill other plants that need water too. Should we kill trees?I have (I think) a rather unique take on the whole "global warming" debate.
Based on the most basic principles of physics, man (mankind) has to have an affect on our environment. "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."
Mankind has undeniably altered the planet with not only gas emissions but also by deforestation, blacktopping and concreting a large percentage of the land masses, countless billions of heat sources, including Transportation engines and other machinery, Commercial and residential Air Conditioners / Heat Pumps, Electrical Grids, Lighting, etc. . . All the way down to the numbers of human bodies, each one radiating an average of 98.6 degrees, 24/7.
We basically have an enormous electric blanket on our planet that didn't use to be there.
If by nothing more than simple displacement (physics,) Our sea levels have to rise from the simple numbers of floating ships, ship wrecks, man made islands, trash, plane crashes, river flow increases resulting from man made attempts to eliminate flood zones,etc.
Bottom line, it's cumulative and undeniable.
However, despite all of our efforts to warm the planet (intentional or not) our impact simply isn't all that serious.
It is just as undeniable that the planet's own activity with volcanos and such, above and below the oceans, fluctuations in the Sun's output, etc. . . all varies considerably and HAS historically drastically affected the climate, many times before the industrial revolution was in the mix.
I have yet to see anything from any of the alarmists to get me even the slightest bit worried that Man can or has done anything to the planet that the Planet can not absorb or remedy in a way that would render itself uninhabitable to an otherwise intelligent species, like man.
I have (I think) a rather unique take on the whole "global warming" debate.
Based on the most basic principles of physics, man (mankind) has to have an affect on our environment. "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."
Mankind has undeniably altered the planet with not only gas emissions but also by deforestation, blacktopping and concreting a large percentage of the land masses, countless billions of heat sources, including Transportation engines and other machinery, Commercial and residential Air Conditioners / Heat Pumps, Electrical Grids, Lighting, etc. . . All the way down to the numbers of human bodies, each one radiating an average of 98.6 degrees, 24/7.
We basically have an enormous electric blanket on our planet that didn't use to be there.
If by nothing more than simple displacement (physics,) Our sea levels have to rise from the simple numbers of floating ships, ship wrecks, man made islands, trash, plane crashes, river flow increases resulting from man made attempts to eliminate flood zones,etc.
Bottom line, it's cumulative and undeniable.
However, despite all of our efforts to warm the planet (intentional or not) our impact simply isn't all that serious.
It is just as undeniable that the planet's own activity with volcanos and such, above and below the oceans, fluctuations in the Sun's output, etc. . . all varies considerably and HAS historically drastically affected the climate, many times before the industrial revolution was in the mix.
I have yet to see anything from any of the alarmists to get me even the slightest bit worried that Man can or has done anything to the planet that the Planet can not absorb or remedy in a way that would render itself uninhabitable to an otherwise intelligent species, like man.
If "no" should we kill beavers to save trees?When trees grow, they use water, and can deplete the water enough to kill other plants that need water too. Should we kill trees?
Just a couple decades ago, we never anticipated having to worry aboutFire prevention measures are not to the benefit of the forest, they are to the benefit of man. Intermittent small fires are beneficial. Putting them off allows fuel to build till the day when condition are right and you get an enormous blaze that destroys the forest and any human infrastructure in the way.
I hope we get past this stage of trying to demonize and discredit
one group or approach or another. And just focus on the reforms
we CAN agree on which is plenty to work on for sustainable living!
The most important greenhouse gas is H_2O, water vapour. The most effective vaporisators are trees. More deforestation - less water vapour - less greenhouse effect.
Papua New Guinea.I hope we get past this stage of trying to demonize and discredit
one group or approach or another. And just focus on the reforms
we CAN agree on which is plenty to work on for sustainable living!
Ah, "sustainable living." As in hunter-gatherers, such as those 500 or so on North Sentinel Island in the Andaman Sea.
Do you have any idea of what the ONLY country on earth currently classified as "sustainable" is? Any idea? If you consider sustainability so very important, would you like to live there, before finding out where it is?
Is that headhunter territory ?Papua New Guinea.