Offical Impeachment Thread

[Ray From Cleveland]

Silly question, for two reasons:

1) trump had already witheld the aid. So that was the existing state of affairs. He also did not have to state, in the phone call, that the sun rises in the east.

2) the phone call is only a small part of the body of evidence, which includes, in no small part, the cover up of the phone call

3) Zelensky and his aides either were already aware the aid was withheld, and/or had it confirmed a few days later. After all, they knew that the aid was approved, but didn't arrive at the time of the call. The goofs are telling us Zelensky and his staff would fail to connect the dots: "a favor, though". Hence no extortion. Because it isn't extortion if the target doesn't realize he has his fingernails pulled out to cough up the "deliverable".

Trump loves his marks, the "uneducated". On this thread, you can behold, in great detail, why that is.

favor
[ fey-ver ]
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noun

something done or granted out of goodwill, rather than from justice or for remuneration; a kind act: to ask a favor.

Definition of favor | Dictionary.com

 

[Billy_Bob]

Quote the transcript.

We don't have the transcript. Come on man, keep up.

There are two and the house has access to both... now GFY

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'd sure like to see a prosecutor convict somebody on robbery or murder based on hearsay

An idiotic response. Nobody said or implied that hearsay was the only evidence against trump.

 

[Baz Ares]

A shakedown with no quid, no pro, and no quo?

How does that work?

It wouldn't matter if there was. As Professor Dershowitz pointed out, there is no law against quid pro quo's in the statute. He looked up, down and sideways. Couldn't find one.

So extortion is legal. Who knew?

If you call that extortion, then what Biden did was worse, since what he did is what the commies are accusing Trump of doing.

What Biden said was fully approved by Obama and both House and Congress. It was not to get them to spew BS so Clinton could win. Just so we know more facts here.
Discussion of mod actions edited

Really? When did Obama approve it? When did both houses of Congress approve it?

Prove it was not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump is President.
He's in charge.
Get over it.

Impeachment is constitutional.

Get over it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Quote the transcript.

We don't have the transcript. Come on man, keep up.

Transcript of Trump call with Ukraine’s Zelensky: full text as released by White House

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are two and the house has access to both

Shameless, ignorant lie. If you are this ignorant, you shouldn't evn be commenting in this thread.

 

[Nostra]

sondalnd admitted that there was a shake down.

A shakedown with no quid, no pro, and no quo?

How does that work?

It wouldn't matter if there was. As Professor Dershowitz pointed out, there is no law against quid pro quo's in the statute. He looked up, down and sideways. Couldn't find one.

So extortion is legal. Who knew?

If you call that extortion, then what Biden did was worse, since what he did is what the commies are accusing Trump of doing.

What Biden said was fully approved by Obama and both House and Congress. It was not to get them to spew BS so Clinton could win. Just so we know more facts here.
Discussion of mod actions edited,

YEP, Above you can see. More weak USMB DOPer Mod editing of our factual posts.

Link to this approval of Biden's extortion to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son's company?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Quote the transcript.

We don't have the transcript. Come on man, keep up.

Transcript of Trump call with Ukraine’s Zelensky: full text as released by White House

That is not a transcript. Sorry. It appears you and billybobcletusjoerickybobby are the last two peole on earth to realize this.

 

[Baz Ares]

Trump is President.
He's in charge.
Get over it.

Impeachment is constitutional.

Get over it.

Even over a Legal Blow gotten Job.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Quote the transcript.

We don't have the transcript. Come on man, keep up.

Transcript of Trump call with Ukraine’s Zelensky: full text as released by White House

That is not a transcript. Sorry. It appears you and billybobcletusjoerickybobby are the last two peole on earth to realize this.

It is the transcript. What other transcript are you talking about here? This is the phone conversation between Trump and Zelensky that supposedly got this all started.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am neither Republican or Democrat. Both parties are corrupt. Trump is the most corrupt (and stupid) of all.

/----/ Too bad Shytface can't prove anything. Maybe you should testify.

Too bad you can't see the extortion. Is it that dark up Trump's ass?

You might want to get into a legal dictionary and see what elements are required for extortion. They aren't present in the call.

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Who cares about the call? The call is just a single piece of evidence. One in which the big dummy couldn't close the deal and still got caught.

The call is the entire bases of the impeachment inquiry, dumbass. The opinions of ambassadors are evidence of nothing.

Nah. It's Trump ordering Rudy, Gordon, Mick and Rick to break the rules. The phone call is just where bigmouth couldn't contain himself.

Moron.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am neither Republican or Democrat. Both parties are corrupt. Trump is the most corrupt (and stupid) of all.

/----/ Too bad Shytface can't prove anything. Maybe you should testify.

Too bad you can't see the extortion. Is it that dark up Trump's ass?

You might want to get into a legal dictionary and see what elements are required for extortion. They aren't present in the call.

.

Who cares about the call? The call is just a single piece of evidence. One in which the big dummy couldn't close the deal and still got caught.

Evidence, opinions aren't evidence. Differences over policy aren't evidence either.

.

You fuckers are desperate. It's fucking fantastic.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ Too bad Shytface can't prove anything. Maybe you should testify.

Too bad you can't see the extortion. Is it that dark up Trump's ass?

You might want to get into a legal dictionary and see what elements are required for extortion. They aren't present in the call.

.

Who cares about the call? The call is just a single piece of evidence. One in which the big dummy couldn't close the deal and still got caught.

The call is the entire bases of the impeachment inquiry, dumbass. The opinions of ambassadors are evidence of nothing.

Nah. It's Trump ordering Rudy, Gordon, Mick and Rick to break the rules. The phone call is just where bigmouth couldn't contain himself.

Moron.

/——/ Now if you only had some proof like a transcript—- oh wait. Never mind.

 

[Nostra]

/----/ Too bad Shytface can't prove anything. Maybe you should testify.

Too bad you can't see the extortion. Is it that dark up Trump's ass?

You might want to get into a legal dictionary and see what elements are required for extortion. They aren't present in the call.

.

Who cares about the call? The call is just a single piece of evidence. One in which the big dummy couldn't close the deal and still got caught.

Evidence, opinions aren't evidence. Differences over policy aren't evidence either.

.

You fuckers are desperate. It's fucking fantastic.

Personally, I am desperately awaiting the next Schifferbrains debacle hearing to blow up in your faces.

 

[Baz Ares]

A shakedown with no quid, no pro, and no quo?

How does that work?

It wouldn't matter if there was. As Professor Dershowitz pointed out, there is no law against quid pro quo's in the statute. He looked up, down and sideways. Couldn't find one.

So extortion is legal. Who knew?

If you call that extortion, then what Biden did was worse, since what he did is what the commies are accusing Trump of doing.

What Biden said was fully approved by Obama and both House and Congress. It was not to get them to spew BS so Clinton could win. Just so we know more facts here.
Discussion of mod actions edited,

YEP, Above you can see. More weak USMB DOPer Mod editing of our factual posts.

Link to this approval of Biden's extortion to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son's company?

Fact check: What Joe and Hunter Biden actually did in Ukraine

 

[lennypartiv]

"We do Extortion and Bribery all the time" ~Mulvaney 2019.
I guess this is the new MAGA slogan?

Like I said, you Dems still don't understand what Mulvaney said.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Republicans have to be gnashing their teeth over the abject stupidity of the Republican President.

Trump's order to retreat in Syria betrayed a key ally who suffered 11,000 casualties in quelling the ISIS terrorist threat. Trump's retreat order facilitated the Turkish invasion of Syria and the attempt by the Turkish dictator, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to annihilate the Kurds who he regards as terrorists.

Trump enabled Edogan to kill hundreds of Kurds and causing thousands more to abandon their homes, becoming refugees.

On a day when live, public House impeachment hearings began featuring two key witnesses against Trump, William B. Taylor Jr., acting ambassador to Ukraine, and his boss, George Kent, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, provided devastating evidence of abuse of power, on a day when desperate Republicans are trying vainly to defend Trump from his own incriminating statements, guess who Trump invites to the White House.

You got it, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

It is an in your face gesture to Republicans from a Republican President.

How smart is that?

Republicans are in the midst of drafting a bipartisan sanctions bill targeting Turkey for its aggressive action against the Kurds, aggressive action caused by Trump's retreat. Some of the strongest Congressional critics have included some of Trump's closest congressional allies, including Senator Lindsey Graham, who has repeatedly warned Erdoğan about the repercussions of his actions and has drafted his own sweeping sanctions bill targeting the country.

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle called for Trump to rescind the White House invitation to Erdoğan entirely. The White House declined to do so.

How smart is that?

Pretty smart if Trump is acting like a Russian puppet whose sole purpose is to create havoc in the capital.

GOP senators air concerns during unusual White House meeting with Erdoğan - CNNPolitics helped with this report.

 

[Nostra]

/----/ Too bad Shytface can't prove anything. Maybe you should testify.

Too bad you can't see the extortion. Is it that dark up Trump's ass?

You might want to get into a legal dictionary and see what elements are required for extortion. They aren't present in the call.

.

Who cares about the call? The call is just a single piece of evidence. One in which the big dummy couldn't close the deal and still got caught.

Evidence, opinions aren't evidence. Differences over policy aren't evidence either.

.

You fuckers are desperate. It's fucking fantastic.

The innerweb irony meter just exploded.

 

[Nostra]

It wouldn't matter if there was. As Professor Dershowitz pointed out, there is no law against quid pro quo's in the statute. He looked up, down and sideways. Couldn't find one.

So extortion is legal. Who knew?

If you call that extortion, then what Biden did was worse, since what he did is what the commies are accusing Trump of doing.

What Biden said was fully approved by Obama and both House and Congress. It was not to get them to spew BS so Clinton could win. Just so we know more facts here.
Discussion of mod actions edited,

YEP, Above you can see. More weak USMB DOPer Mod editing of our factual posts.

Link to this approval of Biden's extortion to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son's company?

Fact check: What Joe and Hunter Biden actually did in Ukraine

Axios "fact check"?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Surely you jest.