Offical Impeachment Thread

[Ame®icano]

Admitted by who?

In a Friday interview on "Fox & Friends," President Donald Trump admitted to holding up military aid to pressure Ukraine's government to investigate a baseless conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election.

In other words, he acknowledged doing the very thing he could be impeached for and has repeatedly denied.

Here's the interview. Portions relevant to this article start around the 5:50 mark.

He had every right to hold up aid if the reason was to investigate or find out if Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections, and if the Bidens were involved in that corruption over time as well. Not doing these things if have suspicion's of, would constitute a dereliction of duty.

We already know this Ukraine election meddling has been debunked.

But Putin thanks you for it.

Debunked? LOL

Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.

Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump

Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.

No support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?

Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.


It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.

It would be nice if you link to what you just claimed.

His actions towards Russia and Ukraine certainly do not support your claims.

 

[The Purge]

Yes Biden admitted it and on video tape!....Did you knoe... silly question as you know nothing...
Next to go?

Adam Schiff-Ukraine connection comes under scrutiny

This Schiff-Ukaine connection gets a mostly false rating.

Since you're unable to defend Trump, you're so desparate you need to make stuff up?

Of course, Snopes being left with propaganda arm, has no choice but to suppress any bad news about the left.

factcheck.org says the same thing.
Igor Pasternack is in calfornia, not ukraine.
Is just basic reality.

Fact check is the second propaganda arm of the left, therefore, no surprise there.

factcheck.org has least biased rating.
Snopes also is least biased.
Try again.

Igor Pasternack is in Calfornia, not Ukraine. Is this in dispute?
How can Schiff have Ukraine ties when Igor Pasternack has nothing to do with Ukraine?
Where are your fact checking sites?

Using dishonest MediaBiasFactCheck again.....RITFLMFAO

Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest?
Apr 24, 2017 · "Media Bias Fact Check," a media outlet that claims to be "dedicated to ... In cases where right-leaning fictions take hold, and no one properly ...

 

[The Purge]

Admitted by who?

In a Friday interview on "Fox & Friends," President Donald Trump admitted to holding up military aid to pressure Ukraine's government to investigate a baseless conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election.

In other words, he acknowledged doing the very thing he could be impeached for and has repeatedly denied.

Here's the interview. Portions relevant to this article start around the 5:50 mark.

He had every right to hold up aid if the reason was to investigate or find out if Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections, and if the Bidens were involved in that corruption over time as well. Not doing these things if have suspicion's of, would constitute a dereliction of duty.

We already know this Ukraine election meddling has been debunked.

But Putin thanks you for it.

Debunked? LOL

Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.

Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump

Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.

No support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?

Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.


It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.

Another retarded subversive that doesn't know what the words CONSIDER RECOGNIZING means!!!!!....By his sanctions and military aid to Ukraine. I would say he is past considering!!!...ROTFLMFAO.....DUH!!!!!

 

[dudmuck]

This Schiff-Ukaine connection gets a mostly false rating.

Since you're unable to defend Trump, you're so desparate you need to make stuff up?

Of course, Snopes being left with propaganda arm, has no choice but to suppress any bad news about the left.

factcheck.org says the same thing.
Igor Pasternack is in calfornia, not ukraine.
Is just basic reality.

Fact check is the second propaganda arm of the left, therefore, no surprise there.

factcheck.org has least biased rating.
Snopes also is least biased.
Try again.

Igor Pasternack is in Calfornia, not Ukraine. Is this in dispute?
How can Schiff have Ukraine ties when Igor Pasternack has nothing to do with Ukraine?
Where are your fact checking sites?

Using dishonest MediaBiasFactCheck again.....RITFLMFAO

Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest?
Apr 24, 2017 · "Media Bias Fact Check," a media outlet that claims to be "dedicated to ... In cases where right-leaning fictions take hold, and no one properly ...

The purpose of snopes or politifact or factcheck is for a source of objective truth, not opinion.

Is Igor Pasternack from Calfornia or Ukraine?
Does Igor Pasternack have anything to do with Ukraine?

On the justfactsdaily.com site, I cant find any information on Schiff or Igor Pasternack.
Where is your source that shows Igor Pasternack connected to Ukraine?

 

[RealDave]

There is, of course, just as much circumstantial evidence as your Biden speculation, if not more.

You mean other than video of joe biden stating he got the prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold a billion dollars....you mean other than that...right?

Provide the link where Joe Biden said he was having the prosecutor fired to protect his son Hunter.

We know he did, of course that's irrelevant to the fact that he bribed a foreign country to effect their internal affairs. His son benefiting is tangential to that fact, quid pro joe doesn't have to benefit directly.

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So, you think we just hand out money to countries? Really? You are really this stupid?

Quid pro joe wasn't handing out money, it was a loan guarantee. And without it the Ukraine economy could have collapsed, which would only benefit Russia. You might want to educate yourself on the topic.

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Try to keep up

 

[The Purge]

Of course, Snopes being left with propaganda arm, has no choice but to suppress any bad news about the left.

factcheck.org says the same thing.
Igor Pasternack is in calfornia, not ukraine.
Is just basic reality.

Fact check is the second propaganda arm of the left, therefore, no surprise there.

factcheck.org has least biased rating.
Snopes also is least biased.
Try again.

Igor Pasternack is in Calfornia, not Ukraine. Is this in dispute?
How can Schiff have Ukraine ties when Igor Pasternack has nothing to do with Ukraine?
Where are your fact checking sites?

Using dishonest MediaBiasFactCheck again.....RITFLMFAO

Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest?
Apr 24, 2017 · "Media Bias Fact Check," a media outlet that claims to be "dedicated to ... In cases where right-leaning fictions take hold, and no one properly ...

The purpose of snopes or politifact or factcheck is for a source of objective truth, not opinion.

Is Igor Pasternack from Calfornia or Ukraine?
Does Igor Pasternack have anything to do with Ukraine?

On the justfactsdaily.com site, I cant find any information on Schiff or Igor Pasternack.
Where is your source that shows Igor Pasternack connected to Ukraine?

Well since you are so interested why not YOU do some research. Find out and let us know...I have no interest in your fantasy questions!

 

[2aguy]

Admitted by who?

In a Friday interview on "Fox & Friends," President Donald Trump admitted to holding up military aid to pressure Ukraine's government to investigate a baseless conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election.

In other words, he acknowledged doing the very thing he could be impeached for and has repeatedly denied.

Here's the interview. Portions relevant to this article start around the 5:50 mark.

He had every right to hold up aid if the reason was to investigate or find out if Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections, and if the Bidens were involved in that corruption over time as well. Not doing these things if have suspicion's of, would constitute a dereliction of duty.

We already know this Ukraine election meddling has been debunked.

But Putin thanks you for it.

Debunked? LOL

Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.

Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump

Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.

No support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?

Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.


It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.

Other than releasing the American energy industry....which hurts putin

Telling NATO to pay for their militaries...which hurts putin.

Telling Germany to stop building a pipeline to Russia...which hurts putin.

Supplying the Ukraine with actual military weapons to fight russia...which hurts putin.

Killing russian soldiers in Syria...which hurts putin.

There are others, but those are off the top of my head.

 

[RealDave]

how the hell can you impeach the best president on the economy since Reagan, and the best president overall for minorities especially since Abe Lincoln?

Skyrocketing deficits, the Fed had to bail us out, manufacturing shrinking, farmers going bankrupt,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We know he did, of course that's irrelevant to the fact that he bribed a foreign country to effect their internal affairs. His son benefiting is tangential to that fact, quid pro joe doesn't have to benefit directly.

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And I know that Trump tried to bribe/extort a foreign government into starting a phony investigation into Joe Biden, his political rival. He should rot in prison.

How is Biden his political rival?

They are both running for president, along with a slew of others. Seriously, you did not know this?

The only people running for president are the nominees of the party, an incumbent, or a third party candidate. Trump is not running against Biden or anybody else at this point. Therefore Biden is not his political opponent.

Yes he most certainly is Trump's political opponent. If you are too stupid to acknowledge that fact, that's on you pal.

In a political sense he is, but not in a presidential sense which is what this phony charge is all about. Biden is not Trump's opponent for the presidency.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Poor wittle commie, do you think your butt hurt will heal before you get another case next year?

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Your ignorance of political science terminology is why you're a biddable fool. You use the term "commie" as a pejorative, you have no clue what a "commie" is or what one may support.

You can't name one policy or plan I have posted in the years I've been a member here which support authoritarianism; those nations which claim the Red Flag have all been ruled by authoritarian despots.

Authoritarianism has been the form of governance in Communist and Fascist Nations, democracy in each one of them is a sham, where the Press is not free and protesters become political prisoners.

Today we are faced with a neo fascist movement, and you are one of them or at best a biddable fool.

The years you have been a member here? Your screen name window states you joined last Thursday, so you're a sock.

The US Communist Party supported your last three presidential nominees, and couldn't say enough about Bernie Sanders. Furthermore if your party didn't rig the primaries, an admitted Socialist would have been your nominee.

So, since your party was supported by white supremacists. What does that mean? The neo nazi's love trump. Wjat dores thsarf mkesn

And for Christ sake learn the difference between a socialist & a Democratic Socialists.

You are embarrassing yourself yet again.

There is no difference between a Socialist and a Democrat Socialist. They threw the name Democrat in there to edge into the party, which will be totally Socialist within the next two decades.

And since you don't read posts before you reply, I'll state it again: the only stance of Trump that the that the white supremacists like is his southern border policy, because it keeps Hispanics out of the country. They don't care what his reasons are. It benefits them as far as they're concerned.

Who did the white supremacists vote for?
"Democratic socialism is distinguished from Marxist–Leninist-inspired socialism which to many is viewed as being undemocratic or authoritarian in practice.[4][5][6][7] Democratic socialists oppose the Stalinist political system and the Soviet-type economic system, rejecting the perceived authoritarian form of governance and highly centralised command economy that took form in the Soviet Union and other Marxist–Leninist states in the early 20th century."

There's a term for that, it's called putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[Rye Catcher]

This Schiff-Ukaine connection gets a mostly false rating.

Since you're unable to defend Trump, you're so desparate you need to make stuff up?

Of course, Snopes being left with propaganda arm, has no choice but to suppress any bad news about the left.

factcheck.org says the same thing.
Igor Pasternack is in calfornia, not ukraine.
Is just basic reality.

Fact check is the second propaganda arm of the left, therefore, no surprise there.

factcheck.org has least biased rating.
Snopes also is least biased.
Try again.

Igor Pasternack is in Calfornia, not Ukraine. Is this in dispute?
How can Schiff have Ukraine ties when Igor Pasternack has nothing to do with Ukraine?
Where are your fact checking sites?

All "fact-check" sites are not just biased, but organized to sway the opinion in certain direction. Those you referenced are, because they give you what your political leaning need from them. They're more fixated to "damage control" that to publishing facts.

Notice, every link you provided goes to "fact-checking" site that reference snippet of the article that support their narrative. Unlike yours my links reference specific article.that I use to form my own opinion.

Even your question "where are your fact checking sites" tells that you are incapable of finding the facts on your own, you need someone else to do it for you, therefore you don't have your opinion, you just mirror opinions given by someone else, you're incapable to do your own thinking.

And FYI, making your fonts large and bold doesn't not make it truth, It's just annoying.

Where do you get your information on current events, exp. matter of political issues (this is a political forum)?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How is Biden his political rival?

They are both running for president, along with a slew of others. Seriously, you did not know this?

The only people running for president are the nominees of the party, an incumbent, or a third party candidate. Trump is not running against Biden or anybody else at this point. Therefore Biden is not his political opponent.

LOL, man you really are dumb if you believe anyone believes your posts.

There is nothing to disbelieve. Trump's opponent will be known after the commies vote in their primary. Until that time, Trump has no political opponent in the presidential race.

You really expect anyone to believe that shit. Why the **** is your orange buddy trashing Biden on the campaign trail?

Uhhhh, because Biden trashed him first???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is no difference between a Socialist and a Democrat Socialist. They threw the name Democrat in there to edge into the party, which will be totally Socialist within the next two decades.

And since you don't read posts before you reply, I'll state it again: the only stance of Trump that the that the white supremacists like is his southern border policy, because it keeps Hispanics out of the country. They don't care what his reasons are. It benefits them as far as they're concerned.

Correct.

Lenin was Social-Democrat. There is no difference in between Russian Marxist philosophy from today's so called Social Democrats.

Lenin: The Tasks of the Russian Social-Democrats

Lenin’s Conception of Socialism

View attachment 291321

Forward anyone?

It's how they will ease it in.

It went from Democrat to progressive.
From progressive to liberalism.
From liberalism to Democrat socialism. \

Down the road.

Democrat socialism to socialism.
From socialism to socialist communism.
From socialist communism to plain communism.

 

[Richledford]

 

[RealDave]

In a Friday interview on "Fox & Friends," President Donald Trump admitted to holding up military aid to pressure Ukraine's government to investigate a baseless conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election.

In other words, he acknowledged doing the very thing he could be impeached for and has repeatedly denied.

Here's the interview. Portions relevant to this article start around the 5:50 mark.

He had every right to hold up aid if the reason was to investigate or find out if Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections, and if the Bidens were involved in that corruption over time as well. Not doing these things if have suspicion's of, would constitute a dereliction of duty.

We already know this Ukraine election meddling has been debunked.

But Putin thanks you for it.

Debunked? LOL

Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.

Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump

Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.

No support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?

Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.


It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.

Other than releasing the American energy industry....which hurts putin

Telling NATO to pay for their militaries...which hurts putin.

Telling Germany to stop building a pipeline to Russia...which hurts putin.

Supplying the Ukraine with actual military weapons to fight russia...which hurts putin.

Killing russian soldiers in Syria...which hurts putin.

There are others, but those are off the top of my head.

Believed Putin over US Intel agencies
Pulled out of Syria giving it to Putin
Wants Putin back in the G7
Offered Putin a free penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow.
Left the Russian election interference wide open for 2020
Ended a nuclear agreement to give Putin a green light to build new nukes
Ending a mutual fly over agreement to verify nuke agreements so Putin can make more nukes

 

[2aguy]

There is no difference between a Socialist and a Democrat Socialist. They threw the name Democrat in there to edge into the party, which will be totally Socialist within the next two decades.

And since you don't read posts before you reply, I'll state it again: the only stance of Trump that the that the white supremacists like is his southern border policy, because it keeps Hispanics out of the country. They don't care what his reasons are. It benefits them as far as they're concerned.

Correct.

Lenin was Social-Democrat. There is no difference in between Russian Marxist philosophy from today's so called Social Democrats.

Lenin: The Tasks of the Russian Social-Democrats

Lenin’s Conception of Socialism

View attachment 291321

Forward anyone?

It's how they will ease it in.

It went from Democrat to progressive.
From progressive to liberalism.
From liberalism to Democrat socialism. \

Down the road.

Democrat socialism to socialism.
From socialism to socialist communism.
From socialist communism to plain communism.

And from plain communism to mass graves...it always ends there....

 

[2aguy]

He had every right to hold up aid if the reason was to investigate or find out if Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections, and if the Bidens were involved in that corruption over time as well. Not doing these things if have suspicion's of, would constitute a dereliction of duty.

We already know this Ukraine election meddling has been debunked.

But Putin thanks you for it.

Debunked? LOL

Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.

Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump

Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.

No support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?

Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.


It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.

Other than releasing the American energy industry....which hurts putin

Telling NATO to pay for their militaries...which hurts putin.

Telling Germany to stop building a pipeline to Russia...which hurts putin.

Supplying the Ukraine with actual military weapons to fight russia...which hurts putin.

Killing russian soldiers in Syria...which hurts putin.

There are others, but those are off the top of my head.

Believed Putin over US Intel agencies
Pulled out of Syria giving it to Putin
Wants Putin back in the G7
Offered Putin a free penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow.
Left the Russian election interference wide open for 2020
Ended a nuclear agreement to give Putin a green light to build new nukes
Ending a mutual fly over agreement to verify nuke agreements so Putin can make more nukes

Are you really this dumb?

The same U.S. intelligence agencies that tried to frame him with false documents and FISA warrants?

He still has American troops in Syria, and ran on getting our troops out of middle east quagmires...you dope.

Putin used to be in the G7 and his being there isn't a big deal.

In Russia, as corrupt at it is, you have to pay off their officials, you dope.

Russian election interference...you mean when they paid hilary, the one who was supposed to win, 140 million dollars and then she destroyed her email server? And the election interference? About 130,000 dollars in ad buys attacking both candidates, in a close to a billion dollar each election cycle? Really, are you this dumb?

The nuclear agreement he left was due to the fact, the fact, that Russia was ignoring it, and we were the only ones following it...you dope.

Mutual flyover agreement? Are you really this dumb?

I gave you specific, detrimental things Trump has actually done to Russia......you gave that list......you need to try harder....

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If Biden's Son has done what you claim he has and Biden did what you claim he did, it was the job (and still is) of the Justice Department to investigate and bring charges to the both of them. It's not up to the President to try and blackmail another world leader to do his bidding for him. The problem here is, it WAS looked into by the Justice Department and no crime was found.

But if Barr will restart the investigation on the Bidens, he has my blessings. But, at the same time, he needs to to after the Rumpster Criminals that refuse the Congressional Subpoenas and have the US Marshals arrest and escort their sorry buts to the Congressional floor.

Sucks for the Dems that they cannot override the Executive Powers..............Equal Branches of the Gov't.............They DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY..............

If they say THEY DO...........then they must go to the Judicial Branch and Challenge it............You can cry .......scream...........and demand all you want...............it doesn't change a thing...........

In regards to election tampering and corruption in Ukraine.........Trump has every right to ask for cooperation with our DOJ for ongoing investigations.............It's NOT A CRIME to do so...............In regards to his lawyer..........it's his JOB to defend Trump......and finding information to defend him from this Endless attack by the Dems is a part of that Job......

One huge problem. Barr blindly supports anything Rump does and says. Barr isn't representing the United States of America. He's Rumps personal lawyer. So with that in mind, exactly who in the Judicial Branch should Congress take their grievance to? The Top Cop is corrupt as hell. Rump has seized control over about 3/5ths of the government. It should be 1/3rd but he's bot a lock on more like 2/3rds with his criminal Moscow Mitch at his Back. This looks very similar to Italy in 1933 that propelled Mussolini into absolute power. Obviously, Rump read the playbook leading up to the power grab in Italy by 1933. If I thought you had the capability to actually read history I would suggest some good reading for you. But you only listen to Rush and Hannity and the Extreme Right wing part of Fox along with some conspiracy sites.

One huge problem, the DOJ did not have an open case looking into the Bidens. If they had, it would have been unwise but not illegal. And even Barr wouldn't touch that hot potato. But would it have been found to be illegal? Probably not. Just damaging but not any worse than Rump on any given Tuesday. But Rump doing it back channel trying to blackmail another head of state to announce they are starting an investigation into the Bidens when Biden was beating him in the polls by refusing funds that were already authorized to go to Ukraine and dangling a face to face meeting to help Ukraine with it's face problem with Russia is downright criminal. And don't give me that crap that he didn't do any of it. Everyone from the dog catcher to the lead Diplomat was aware of it after certain date. But even a Professional Diplomat can only take so much corruption before they say enough. And that is pretty well what has happened.

Long winded Lie bro.....

Biden didn't go to Ukraine to save it from Russia...........Apple Pie...........and the American way.........He did it to take advantage of the Chaos.......He takes his son on Air Force 2 to the Ukraine while thousands are dying from the Ruskies..........And a week later his son is WOW on the Board of the Largest Gas Producer in the Ukraine.............

If your concern is for the Ukraine with Russia on their door step back then.........Then Biden should have been there to meet with Ukraine military officials to discuss WHAT THEY NEED to PROTECT THEMSELVES...........

Like Lethal aid.............the ability to kill Russian armor.......aka tanks...........Did Joe and Obama do that........they gave a bunch of NON MILITARY AID.............but didn't give Ukraine weapons to stop the Russians on the battlefield...........

Biden CASHED in on his position during a time of Crisis and Chaos..............for his son.......Ray Charles can see that.

Trump on the other hand gave Ukraine Lethal weapons to help them KILL RUSSIANS if need be.........Why didn't that happen when Obama was in power..........hmmmm..........As thousands of Ukrainians were dying......

The DOJ has been looking at 2016 election meddling for years now, but have ignored the DNC's role in this and the courts of Ukraine in this.............Because it has been a Partisan Investigation that ignores the other sides dealings from the Deep State............who are attempting a COUP on Trump.

I'll use what the Dems have been using for years..............IF BIDEN is innocent...........then he should want this investigated to CLEAR HIS NAME.............If he did no crime .............Then he should WELCOME BEING INVESTIGATED.............

The Biden's will not be taken down..............Graham calling for an investigation will in the end do NOTHING.........It's a Show.............Biden and Graham are friends......and behind closed doors laugh about it and rehearse the next SHOW to cover their butts from all the corruption they have done as career politicains.

Career politicians from both parties...........keep the people at each other so they don't come after them for their corruption..............It's a designed strategy

I used proven facts. You just make it up as you go to support your lies. Again, if Barr want's to open up an investigation into the Bidens and Ukraine, he has my blessing. As stupid as that would be at least it would be legal but even Barr isn't that stupid.

Fact, boy, Facts. They do get in the way of a good conspiracy don't they.

Common Sense escapes you.............you really think the Dems can sell it as a Conspiracy.....the people aren't as stupid as they think they are...............They know Biden used Pay to Play and hooked up his boy there................and Biden is such an idiot............He Bragged about his actions in Ukraine..........

Biden is mouthpiece that the Dems wish knew when to shut up.............LOL

Barr isn't gonna take down the Big Boys.........Pawns will fall.........because the Establishment is too entrenched..........That is just Reality.

The reality is, how is the weather in Moscow these days, comrade. The word is out. This is just another batch of crap coming from the GRU that you are just repeating. I wonder how many Russian Operatives are in USMB. But it's a pretty sure thing you are one of them.

 

[RealDave]

There is no difference between a Socialist and a Democrat Socialist. They threw the name Democrat in there to edge into the party, which will be totally Socialist within the next two decades.

And since you don't read posts before you reply, I'll state it again: the only stance of Trump that the that the white supremacists like is his southern border policy, because it keeps Hispanics out of the country. They don't care what his reasons are. It benefits them as far as they're concerned.

Correct.

Lenin was Social-Democrat. There is no difference in between Russian Marxist philosophy from today's so called Social Democrats.

Lenin: The Tasks of the Russian Social-Democrats

Lenin’s Conception of Socialism

View attachment 291321

Forward anyone?

It's how they will ease it in.

It went from Democrat to progressive.
From progressive to liberalism.
From liberalism to Democrat socialism. \

Down the road.

Democrat socialism to socialism.
From socialism to socialist communism.
From socialist communism to plain communism.

From Republicans who stood for fiscal responsibility
To Republicans who run up the debt
To Republicans who take us to recessions
To Republicans who trash military veterans
To Republicans that cheat to win elections
To Republicans who legislate religion
To Republicans that stand for lying.
To Republicans that became the party of stupid, the party of anti-science. the party of hate.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If Biden's Son has done what you claim he has and Biden did what you claim he did, it was the job (and still is) of the Justice Department to investigate and bring charges to the both of them. It's not up to the President to try and blackmail another world leader to do his bidding for him. The problem here is, it WAS looked into by the Justice Department and no crime was found.

But if Barr will restart the investigation on the Bidens, he has my blessings. But, at the same time, he needs to to after the Rumpster Criminals that refuse the Congressional Subpoenas and have the US Marshals arrest and escort their sorry buts to the Congressional floor.

Sucks for the Dems that they cannot override the Executive Powers..............Equal Branches of the Gov't.............They DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY..............

If they say THEY DO...........then they must go to the Judicial Branch and Challenge it............You can cry .......scream...........and demand all you want...............it doesn't change a thing...........

In regards to election tampering and corruption in Ukraine.........Trump has every right to ask for cooperation with our DOJ for ongoing investigations.............It's NOT A CRIME to do so...............In regards to his lawyer..........it's his JOB to defend Trump......and finding information to defend him from this Endless attack by the Dems is a part of that Job......

One huge problem. Barr blindly supports anything Rump does and says. Barr isn't representing the United States of America. He's Rumps personal lawyer. So with that in mind, exactly who in the Judicial Branch should Congress take their grievance to? The Top Cop is corrupt as hell. Rump has seized control over about 3/5ths of the government. It should be 1/3rd but he's bot a lock on more like 2/3rds with his criminal Moscow Mitch at his Back. This looks very similar to Italy in 1933 that propelled Mussolini into absolute power. Obviously, Rump read the playbook leading up to the power grab in Italy by 1933. If I thought you had the capability to actually read history I would suggest some good reading for you. But you only listen to Rush and Hannity and the Extreme Right wing part of Fox along with some conspiracy sites.

One huge problem, the DOJ did not have an open case looking into the Bidens. If they had, it would have been unwise but not illegal. And even Barr wouldn't touch that hot potato. But would it have been found to be illegal? Probably not. Just damaging but not any worse than Rump on any given Tuesday. But Rump doing it back channel trying to blackmail another head of state to announce they are starting an investigation into the Bidens when Biden was beating him in the polls by refusing funds that were already authorized to go to Ukraine and dangling a face to face meeting to help Ukraine with it's face problem with Russia is downright criminal. And don't give me that crap that he didn't do any of it. Everyone from the dog catcher to the lead Diplomat was aware of it after certain date. But even a Professional Diplomat can only take so much corruption before they say enough. And that is pretty well what has happened.

Long winded Lie bro.....

Biden didn't go to Ukraine to save it from Russia...........Apple Pie...........and the American way.........He did it to take advantage of the Chaos.......He takes his son on Air Force 2 to the Ukraine while thousands are dying from the Ruskies..........And a week later his son is WOW on the Board of the Largest Gas Producer in the Ukraine.............

If your concern is for the Ukraine with Russia on their door step back then.........Then Biden should have been there to meet with Ukraine military officials to discuss WHAT THEY NEED to PROTECT THEMSELVES...........

Like Lethal aid.............the ability to kill Russian armor.......aka tanks...........Did Joe and Obama do that........they gave a bunch of NON MILITARY AID.............but didn't give Ukraine weapons to stop the Russians on the battlefield...........

Biden CASHED in on his position during a time of Crisis and Chaos..............for his son.......Ray Charles can see that.

Trump on the other hand gave Ukraine Lethal weapons to help them KILL RUSSIANS if need be.........Why didn't that happen when Obama was in power..........hmmmm..........As thousands of Ukrainians were dying......

The DOJ has been looking at 2016 election meddling for years now, but have ignored the DNC's role in this and the courts of Ukraine in this.............Because it has been a Partisan Investigation that ignores the other sides dealings from the Deep State............who are attempting a COUP on Trump.

I'll use what the Dems have been using for years..............IF BIDEN is innocent...........then he should want this investigated to CLEAR HIS NAME.............If he did no crime .............Then he should WELCOME BEING INVESTIGATED.............

The Biden's will not be taken down..............Graham calling for an investigation will in the end do NOTHING.........It's a Show.............Biden and Graham are friends......and behind closed doors laugh about it and rehearse the next SHOW to cover their butts from all the corruption they have done as career politicains.

Career politicians from both parties...........keep the people at each other so they don't come after them for their corruption..............It's a designed strategy

I used proven facts. You just make it up as you go to support your lies. Again, if Barr want's to open up an investigation into the Bidens and Ukraine, he has my blessing. As stupid as that would be at least it would be legal but even Barr isn't that stupid.

Fact, boy, Facts. They do get in the way of a good conspiracy don't they.

The conspiracy is the reasons used for impeachment.

You do have a point. When Rump uses Conspiracy to try and justify blackmailing another Nations Head of State then we need to put a check on that. And we also need to recognize that USMB has more than it's fair share of Russian Operatives. Now I am not saying you are one but if you are, care to give us a weather update in Moscow these days?