"Of course I hope for replacement theory, I hope we can sweep this country of fascists and racists with immigrants."

[JoeB131]

It’s too difficult for me to pay my bills legally so I’ll rob banks to make money illegally. You’re a dumb ****

Um, yeah, why do you think the crime rate is as high as it is? A lot of poor people can't get honest jobs. They can get guns pretty easily though.

Here's a crazy idea, let's make it EASY to get a job and HARD to get a gun.

 

[Kondor3]

Yes, MAGA is full of conspiracy loons, but eventually, sanity will prevail.

Perhaps. But they are useful in the campaign to remove 12-20,000,000 Illegal Aliens from US soil, so they're tolerated.

No, but we make it too difficult for them to immigrate legally, so they immigrate illegally.

We make it difficult for them to migrate here legally?

Correct.

In the heyday of American immigration (1840-1900 -ish) we were a nation of 20-80,000,000.

There was land to be had for free or dirt-cheap and there was a job of some kind for anyone who wanted one.

The nation was still growing and expanding and the extra warm bodies proved helpful in that building of a nation.

Today, we are a nation of 330,000,000 souls, the land is all parceled-out, we're done building, and we cannot even feed and house and educate and doctor and govern everyone properly and safely and happily.

We no longer need anywhere NEAR as many immigrants - in sheer numbers or as a percentage - as we once did.

The phukking Democrats let another 12-20,000,000 Illegal Aliens into the country in the Jan 2021-Jan 2025 time frame.

Quite possibly so that the 2030 Census provides another 20,000,000-ish souls to count for Democratic House seats.

Despite both earnest good-natured pleas and condemnations of their policies throughout that entire era.

It got so bad that the Republicans managed to re-install a shamed and censured Chief Executive to rid us of that plague.

We make it "difficult" for them to migrate here legally?

You're goddamned RIGHT we do.

And will CONTINUE to do so for the foreseeable future.

It is OUR country and WE decide whom are to be allowed-in and whom we will reject and send back to their old homes.

Our Country, Our Rules.

We require no justification beyond that simple bumper-sticker slogan -caliber rationale.

Less is More.

 

[Unkotare]

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Today, ... the land is all parceled-out, we're done building, and we cannot even feed and house and educate and doctor and govern everyone properly and safely and happily.

...

Bullshit. And we never "needed" illegal immigrants.

 

[Kondor3]

Bullshit. And we never "needed" illegal immigrants.

What, particularly, do you find to be Bull$hit ? Serious question.

 

[Unkotare]

What, particularly, do you find to be Bull$hit ? Serious question.

We're not "full," and we're not done building. America is still growing.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps. But they are useful in the campaign to remove 12-20,000,000 Illegal Aliens from US soil, so they're tolerated.

Never gonna happen.

Trump's already shot his wad, and he's only deported 600K. He's retreating from MN with his tail betwix his legs. Every other major city has taken notes.

We make it difficult for them to migrate here legally?

Correct.

In the heyday of American immigration (1840-1900 -ish) we were a nation of 20-80,000,000.

There was land to be had for free or dirt-cheap and there was a job of some kind for anyone who wanted one.

The nation was still growing and expanding and the extra warm bodies proved helpful in that building of a nation.

Today, we are a nation of 330,000,000 souls, the land is all parceled-out, we're done building, and we cannot even feed and house and educate and doctor and govern everyone properly and safely and happily.

Nope. We still need immigrants, and they contribute a lot. As opposed to inbred MAGA bigots.

 

[IM2]

what you right-wing whites are doing now.

really? what are "whites" doing right now that is mob rule? last I noticed we had an election.. there isnt anything going on that is not subject to government oversite... even things you dissagree with. Even things that are going on in Immigration inforcement is based on laws on the books. However it is being handled.. may be right or wrong.. but it isnt mob- rule... thats bullshit.

but you are white and have not lived one second experiencing this country as a non-white person. You have lived your whole life under the protection of your white skin,

You dont know how I lived but you project hatred.. thats your issue. You really know what protection I had every second of my life? and because im Conservative... YOU dont think I know what its like to be humbled?
Your a know it all... but a know nothing because of your assumptions.


If you lived in reality, you would not be here arrogantly thinking you have the right to determine who gets to come and go in this country,

I dont have the right to determine who comes and goes into this country. YOU think because I happen to be white.. I think I feel that way??
The government of any country has the right and obligation for all its citizens to control Immigration.. and determine who, and how many people come here reason being citizens ADDED to an existing population, often need to have existing skills or assets to contribute to the existing population... THAT is not ARROGANCE...As an American you have to bring along $$$ with you when it comes to emmigrating to other countries... for the reasons I mentioned, so why the double standard?
So back to the U.S.... if our government determines by law, what legal immigration is.. then those are the rules we have to follow. that is not mob rule, but if you simply want to throw out there to all of latin America and all the world. from wherever.. that if you show up you can stay here... just claim assylum. then that is mob rule

You want to live in the past, to deny the fact an existing system of government has a right to govern its own immigration system.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Your posts tell me what you are. The government has taken citizens off the street and has murdered American citizens. They don't have the right to do that. You support MAGA. MAGA is a return to the past. So STHU.

 

[IM2]

Perhaps. But they are useful in the campaign to remove 12-20,000,000 Illegal Aliens from US soil, so they're tolerated.


We make it difficult for them to migrate here legally?

Correct.

In the heyday of American immigration (1840-1900 -ish) we were a nation of 20-80,000,000.

There was land to be had for free or dirt-cheap and there was a job of some kind for anyone who wanted one.

The nation was still growing and expanding and the extra warm bodies proved helpful in that building of a nation.

Today, we are a nation of 330,000,000 souls, the land is all parceled-out, we're done building, and we cannot even feed and house and educate and doctor and govern everyone properly and safely and happily.

We no longer need anywhere NEAR as many immigrants - in sheer numbers or as a percentage - as we once did.

The phukking Democrats let another 12-20,000,000 Illegal Aliens into the country in the Jan 2021-Jan 2025 time frame.

Quite possibly so that the 2030 Census provides another 20,000,000-ish souls to count for Democratic House seats.

Despite both earnest good-natured pleas and condemnations of their policies throughout that entire era.

It got so bad that the Republicans managed to re-install a shamed and censured Chief Executive to rid us of that plague.

We make it "difficult" for them to migrate here legally?

You're goddamned RIGHT we do.

And will CONTINUE to do so for the foreseeable future.

It is OUR country and WE decide whom are to be allowed-in and whom we will reject and send back to their old homes.

Our Country, Our Rules.

We require no justification beyond that simple bumper-sticker slogan -caliber rationale.

Less is More.

You descend from illegals. This is not your land. You do not have the right to violate the Constitution. This will be made to stop.

 

[Kondor3]

We're not "full," and we're not done building. America is still growing.

We disagree in large part.

We are, indeed, "full".

There is no more room on the macro scale.

We're not building at-present... we're "maintaining".

At some point we will need to RE-build but there isn't a lot more new "building" going on.

Not construction, but the settling of territory, etc... we're not building new cities nor absorbing new states and territories.

We own the place coast-to-coast and have neither the room nor the need for millions more.

 

[Unkotare]

We have loads of room, and we are building all over.

 

[Yarddog]

You descend from illegals. This is not your land. You do not have the right to violate the Constitution. This will be made to stop.

As long as you insist The U.S. has no right to pick and choose who comes here as an immigrant because we live on stolen land, then just stop referencing the Constitution, the bill of rights etc... it has nothing to do with you. You believe the people who wrote all that stuff were here illegally. As far as you're concerned those concepts must be void for you then, written by a bunch of white people.

As for other African Americans who dont feel the way you do... they will benefit greatly from a real immigration policy. Immigration should benefit citizens and all African Americans born here and emmigrated legally are citizens. You still dont get it but that might be because you're part of the problem. There are NGO's and other powers that be from the left who want illegal immigration. and immigration in general... not for the benefit of U.S. citizens, or even for the benefit of the illegals /immigrants themselves, but for the purpose of transforming the country into another political form... because they hate the U.S.. They cannot do it by voting in policy so the best way for them to transform the country is to try to bring in masses of people without assimilation.

 

[Yarddog]

We have loads of room, and we are building all over.

Agreed, we have so much room here in California but you would never know it due to lack of water... they havnt built reseviours for the last 50 years. Overall I think we are hindered by artificial shortages of things that prevent growth.

 

[Unkotare]

Agreed, we have so much room here in California but you would never know it due to lack of water... they havnt built reseviours for the last 50 years. Overall I think we are hindered by artificial shortages of things that prevent growth.

LA is located in about the last place anyone should have built a city.

 

[IM2]

As long as you insist The U.S. has no right to pick and choose who comes here as an immigrant because we live on stolen land, then just stop referencing the Constitution, the bill of rights etc... it has nothing to do with you. You believe the people who wrote all that stuff were here illegally. As far as you're concerned those concepts must be void for you then, written by a bunch of white people.

As for other African Americans who dont feel the way you do... they will benefit greatly from a real immigration policy. Immigration should benefit citizens and all African Americans born here and emmigrated legally are citizens. You still dont get it but that might be because you're part of the problem. There are NGO's and other powers that be from the left who want illegal immigration. and immigration in general... not for the benefit of U.S. citizens, or even for the benefit of the illegals /immigrants themselves, but for the purpose of transforming the country into another political form... because they hate the U.S.. They cannot do it by voting in policy so the best way for them to transform the country is to try to bring in masses of people without assimilation.

I will say what I want. Because man's constitution doesn't mean anything to me. White people descend from what would be an illegal immigrant today. So you have no right to stop others from coming here. The following truth supercedes mans constitution.

The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 19:34
​

These words are written in the real Constitution, not that piece of parchment signed by those racists 250 years ago. Whites are violating that constitution also, and the penalty for that violation is coming.

 

[Kondor3]

We have loads of room, and we are building all over.

Automatic gainsay is not an answer.

Illegal Aliens have overrun several trades and occupations in the past couple of decades.

Illegal Aliens stress our schools and healthcare and social services and taxpayer's back pockets.

And they undercut and under-bid our own people time and again... depressing wages... harming our people.

We are no longer an expanding country... we are a (territorially) stagnant country that has shifted to Maintenance Mode.

We just don't need the influx of warm bodies the way we once did, long ago.

The handful that we DO need we can admit under a series of reforms AFTER we've flushed the Biden Tidal Wave.

 

[Unkotare]

...

We are no longer an expanding country... we are a (territorially) stagnant country that has shifted to Maintenance Mode.
...

New neighborhoods are surging across the country. Arizona, Florida, Texas, etc.

 

[Yarddog]

I will say what I want. Because man's constitution doesn't mean anything to me. White people descend from what would be an illegal immigrant today. So you have no right to stop others from coming here. The following truth supercedes mans constitution.

The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 19:34
​

These words are written in the real Constitution, not that piece of parchment signed by those racists 250 years ago. Whites are violating that constitution also, and the penalty for that violation is coming.

Ok well this is your opinion. But every human on earth descends from someone who once took land from someone else by force. A COUNTRY has the right to have an immigration policy. Obviously you believe the United States does not. But if you had what you wish for you would see African Americans... especially the poorer ones suffer from your policy. They are American Citizens and you would put millions of other people ahead of them.

You say we as a country have NO right to stop others from coming here?? what kind of a country would you have then? what OTHER country in the world does that? And a country like the U.S. which has public services would see them stretched completely thin... because we couldnt stop other sfrom coming here.
Its riddiculous, and thats what the last administration was doing by not enforcing our border.




I see your bible passage and I agree with it. But it doesnt mention the law of the land and the foreignor also being a respectful guest.
You may not believe this but I do not entirely agree with the way we have been enforcing immigration with ICE.. I was more hoping we would focus mainly on illegals who were violent criminals, criminals or linked to terrorism.. I think we could have respected the fact that some people had assylum hearings... even though I dissagreed with the last administration... we still could honor written agreements. I also think that we should take different measures for people here illegally who have worked and bought homes over the last 35 years .. there could be measures taken, but I dont see why it needed to result in deportations.
I'm mostly for deporting Illegals straight up who have come in during recent years and would acclimate easily if they were sent back home.
The major problem was too many people came here in too short of a time... it was allowed to happen on purpose and people know it... and thats why you saw shuch a hard backlash. People were calling this out years ago... that whatever happened in response to illegal immigration would be extreme. Unfortunately its also my belief that if your Leftist party ever gets full control there will also be an extreme backlash in the other direction. And these are the types of happenings that divide countries and people.

 

[Blisterfinger]

The problem is, your corporate masters see you as "replaceable".

Big corporations will welcome "one world Government".

Is that what happened to you Joe?

 

[toobfreak]

Allowing people under 30 to vote is national suicide.

That is actually a very valid point that reflects my own thoughts as well. I mean, until you get out of high school, you are barely even aware of politics, which means that at best by 30 years old, you are barely even 10 years at best out into actually seeing and dealing with the real world of politics, taxes, etc. I can't think of a more mindlessly and easily swayed, emotionally charged group of people than a bunch of teens and 20 year olds; they have no previous experience at all in the issues to have any contrast from with which to accurately measure anything.

 

[Kondor3]

New neighborhoods are surging across the country. Arizona, Florida, Texas, etc.

The only thing "surging across the country" are Illegal Aliens and latter-day White Flight refugees and Gentrification Buyers...

Lots of jobs for our own people... and our own people do not need to be undercut by Invaders and Border-Sneaks from Outside...

The issue is no longer open for debate in the Executive Branch...