Obesity's price tag

[boedicca]

I didn't say the BMI measure is worthless. I'm questioning the validity of government bureaucrats who have nothing to do with caring for a particular patient collecting up this data. We don't need the government to manage the doctor patient relationship, and what data the doctor feels is relevant to the care of a particular patient.

 

[boedicca]

As usual, Maggie has nothing relevant to add to the discussion.

Run along dearie. I'm sure one of your 17 cat boxes must need cleaning.

That's odd because I rarely see anyone rushing to defend or agree with a single thing you post simply because they're replete with childish remarks such as the above. God you're dumb.

She's on an island trying to say that BMI should be classified or is not important to good health.

Good luck finding a health care professional that agrees with that.

No, that's isn't what I said. But if it gives you comfort to misrepresent my comments, do so. It a sad little consolation for being wrong, but it appears to be all you've got going in this thread.

 

[geauxtohell]

I didn't say the BMI measure is worthless. I'm questioning the validity of government bureaucrats who have nothing to do with caring for a particular patient collecting up this data. We don't need the government to manage the doctor patient relationship, and what data the doctor feels is relevant to the care of a particular patient.

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

 

[geauxtohell]

That's odd because I rarely see anyone rushing to defend or agree with a single thing you post simply because they're replete with childish remarks such as the above. God you're dumb.

She's on an island trying to say that BMI should be classified or is not important to good health.

Good luck finding a health care professional that agrees with that.

No, that's isn't what I said. But if it gives you comfort to misrepresent my comments, do so. It a sad little consolation for being wrong, but it appears to be all you've got going in this thread.

Wrong about what? You haven't demonstrated that you know jack and shit about this issue.

 

[MaggieMae]

I didn't say the BMI measure is worthless. I'm questioning the validity of government bureaucrats who have nothing to do with caring for a particular patient collecting up this data. We don't need the government to manage the doctor patient relationship, and what data the doctor feels is relevant to the care of a particular patient.

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

Ironically, databases already exist, in addition to hard copy files in every attending physician's office which release those records with frequency to another physician or specialist. While those hard copies of a patient's chart are floating around snailmail, the lowly clerks sending and receiving them also have access to all that "private" information. Objection to a national database is just plain stupid. The military (VA) already has one, and I know of no soldier or veteran who has complained that a doctor released his BMI results without his consent, or any other information for that matter.

 

[geauxtohell]

I didn't say the BMI measure is worthless. I'm questioning the validity of government bureaucrats who have nothing to do with caring for a particular patient collecting up this data. We don't need the government to manage the doctor patient relationship, and what data the doctor feels is relevant to the care of a particular patient.

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

Ironically, databases already exist, in addition to hard copy files in every attending physician's office which release those records with frequency to another physician or specialist. While those hard copies of a patient's chart are floating around snailmail, the lowly clerks sending and receiving them also have access to all that "private" information. Objection to a national database is just plain stupid. The military (VA) already has one, and I know of no soldier or veteran who has complained that a doctor released his BMI results without his consent, or any other information for that matter.

Under the law, simply having access doesn't cover you. For example, every patient record I pull up is monitored. If I am ever questioned about it, I have to be able to justify why I looked up a patient's records.

I think there are some legitimate objections to an electronic database. I just don't think they are enough to stymie something that is going to make the entire system much more efficient.

If there is a nationalized database, the drug seekers and doctors who facilitate them are going to be so screwed and it's going to be hilarious.

 

[DiveCon]

I didn't say the BMI measure is worthless. I'm questioning the validity of government bureaucrats who have nothing to do with caring for a particular patient collecting up this data. We don't need the government to manage the doctor patient relationship, and what data the doctor feels is relevant to the care of a particular patient.

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

and since your drivers Lic. has both height and weight on it, anyone can calculate the BMI from that
but the real BMI should be done via an electronic device to tell lean tissue from fat tissue
the height/weight method is not as accurate

 

[DiveCon]

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

Ironically, databases already exist, in addition to hard copy files in every attending physician's office which release those records with frequency to another physician or specialist. While those hard copies of a patient's chart are floating around snailmail, the lowly clerks sending and receiving them also have access to all that "private" information. Objection to a national database is just plain stupid. The military (VA) already has one, and I know of no soldier or veteran who has complained that a doctor released his BMI results without his consent, or any other information for that matter.

Under the law, simply having access doesn't cover you. For example, every patient record I pull up is monitored. If I am ever questioned about it, I have to be able to justify why I looked up a patient's records.

I think there are some legitimate objections to an electronic database. I just don't think they are enough to stymie something that is going to make the entire system much more efficient.

If there is a nationalized database, the drug seekers and doctors who facilitate them are going to be so screwed and it's going to be hilarious.

and thats why i dont fear such a database

 

[MaggieMae]

LMAO. That's a larger issue. No one should have access to someone's health records without a legitimate reason. It's illegal.

Dear lord, you've been bitching about this because you think some bureaucrat in Washington is going to be going through your medical records?

If that's the case, information about BMI is the least of my worries.

Ironically, databases already exist, in addition to hard copy files in every attending physician's office which release those records with frequency to another physician or specialist. While those hard copies of a patient's chart are floating around snailmail, the lowly clerks sending and receiving them also have access to all that "private" information. Objection to a national database is just plain stupid. The military (VA) already has one, and I know of no soldier or veteran who has complained that a doctor released his BMI results without his consent, or any other information for that matter.

Under the law, simply having access doesn't cover you. For example, every patient record I pull up is monitored. If I am ever questioned about it, I have to be able to justify why I looked up a patient's records.

I think there are some legitimate objections to an electronic database. I just don't think they are enough to stymie something that is going to make the entire system much more efficient.

If there is a nationalized database, the drug seekers and doctors who facilitate them are going to be so screwed and it's going to be hilarious.

I didn't even think about that. A HUGE benefit to a database. Seems it would also eliminate those "online doctors" who aren't doctors at all.

 

[Coyote]

Really?

Capitalism provides a wide variety of goods and services, both high end and low end, that people can choose to partake of and the proof AGAINST that truth is Wal Mart?

Yikes.

You didn't look at the pictures? No wonder you're confused. The hilarious site is full of photographs of obese people, white/black/whatever, all "partaking" of the goodies for sale at WalMart. I meant it as a parody on capitalism. Lighten up.

the bottom one the woman wasn't so much obese as she was "exposing her assets"

now...would that be toxic assets

 

[DiveCon]

You didn't look at the pictures? No wonder you're confused. The hilarious site is full of photographs of obese people, white/black/whatever, all "partaking" of the goodies for sale at WalMart. I meant it as a parody on capitalism. Lighten up.

the bottom one the woman wasn't so much obese as she was "exposing her assets"

now...would that be toxic assets

you must like really skinny women then
LOL

 

[Douger]

Murkin