Obama’s Team Including Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice, Alexander Vindman Told Zelensky to Reject Trump Deal in Violation of Logan Act.

[LeftofLeft]

I stand with people fighting foreign aggressors. I don't give a shit what their names are.

Sincerely, I think that is a great stance. Is it universal? In all cases where there is a foreign aggressor, do you stand with the people fighting them?

 

[Curried Goats]

Sincerely, I think that is a great stance. Is it universal? In all cases where there is a foreign aggressor, do you stand with the people fighting them?

Of course that's not universal. Say for instance the country is a slave State like the former Confederacy. Then in that case I don't have any problem with another nation coming in and wrecking their shit.

 

[22lcidw]

The territory they've already taken in their conquest of Ukraine. Do you think Russia was getting nothing out the deal?

It is time for all of the Progs to go over there. Stand in front of the line and defend them. You won't. You never have. You're at the beginning of violence. vicious protests and riots and attacking people. No one attacks ack so it emboldens you. It is obvious there are cell groups organizing people to do this. The progs have been busy for decades while Republicans were asleep at the wheel. You neutered Trump in his first term and had a questionable election in 2020. You ph uked up with the inflation though. And the illegals were the icing on the cake.

 

[Godboy]

You can't prove that.

I dont need to prove what we all already know.

 

[Curried Goats]

It is time for all of the Progs to go over there. Stand in front of the line and defend them. You won't. You never have. You're at the beginning of violence. vicious protests and riots and attacking people. No one attacks ack so it emboldens you. It is obvious there are cell groups organizing people to do this. The progs have been busy for decades while Republicans were asleep at the wheel. You neutered Trump in his first term and had a questionable election in 2020. You ph uked up with the inflation though. And the illegals were the icing on the cake.

 

[22lcidw]

Smearing me is not getting away with fogging the truth.

 

[Curried Goats]

Smearing me is not getting away with fogging the truth.

What truth? You fantasized some weird shit about me attacking people and people not attacking back and shadow groups .. I don't know guy, I have trouble following any of your posts because they're all incoherent and weird as ****.

 

[struth]

He didn't agree to any deal yet. He is willing to talk a minerals deal but he doesn't want to concede any territory to Russia.

That's our money. I see it as uncollected tax revenue.

Over a hundred billion by now.

1) you really seem out of the loop on current events....I think you are blinded by your desire simply to wage war, and putting your cult over country

Ukraine still 'ready' to sign US minerals deal, Zelensky tells BBC​

Zelensky: Ukraine still 'ready' to sign minerals deal with Trump

Ukraine's president tells reporters that despite a fractious White House meeting, he is prepared for the deal to go ahead.

www.bbc.com

It was Trump that pulled out last week after Z's disrespectful, childish, behavior.

2) No, sorry, it's not "our money" the money I earn, just like every other working American is THEIR money. Whatever are tax rates are, is what we pay, the tax collected is the Govt's money. And you want the Govt to continue to spend it, as they have been, which has resulted in trillions in debt, and massive waste, fraud and abuse. You seem to object to even cutting that.

3) Link to Ukraine paying the United States, even $1.00. I'll wait.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Of course that's not universal. Say for instance the country is a slave State like the former Confederacy. Then in that case I don't have any problem with another nation coming in and wrecking their shit.

I was just in the former Confederacy last week. I saw better race relations than I do in the NorthEast.

 

[Curried Goats]

1) you really seem out of the loop on current events....I think you are blinded by your desire simply to wage war, and putting your cult over country

Ukraine still 'ready' to sign US minerals deal, Zelensky tells BBC​

Zelensky: Ukraine still 'ready' to sign minerals deal with Trump

Ukraine's president tells reporters that despite a fractious White House meeting, he is prepared for the deal to go ahead.

www.bbc.com

No.... you just appear to be such a ******* moron that you only read headlines and not the information contained in the actual story. Here's a quote from your own link you fuckwit.

But he refused to be drawn into talking about conceding territory to Putin - an option Trump officials have touted as part of a peace deal - or expressing regret in how he had handled the meeting with Trump.

It was Trump that pulled out last week after Z's disrespectful, childish, behavior.

Bone spurs, who ran from war, isn't coming off like the man in that situation to anyone who isn't invested in fantasizing about who Trump really is. Trump threw a tantrum like a boy at a President who's facing down a superior force and his American puppet without fear or willingness to capitulate to Trump's bullshit narrative.

2) No, sorry, it's not "our money" the money I earn, just like every other working American is THEIR money. Whatever are tax rates are, is what we pay, the tax collected is the Govt's money. And you want the Govt to continue to spend it, as they have been, which has resulted in trillions in debt, and massive waste, fraud and abuse. You seem to object to even cutting that.

Musk hasn't found any fraud or abuse, just government programs he doesn't like.

3) Link to Ukraine paying the United States, even $1.00. I'll wait.

I'm not talking about the Ukrainians you dipshit, I was talking about billionaires.

 

[struth]

No.... you just appear to be such a ******* moron that you only read headlines and not the information contained in the actual story. Here's a quote from your own link you fuckwit.



Bone spurs, who ran from war, isn't coming off like the man in that situation to anyone who isn't invested in fantasizing about who Trump really is. Trump threw a tantrum like a boy at a President who's facing down a superior force and his American puppet without fear or willingness to capitulate to Trump's bullshit narrative.

Musk hasn't found any fraud or abuse, just government programs he doesn't like.

I'm not talking about the Ukrainians you dipshit, I was talking about billionaires.

1) um the deal, that he is ready to sign, has nothing to do with ceding terroritory to Russia. Idiot.

2) haha, geez man, you just had Xiden as President and you're mocking Trump from not serving? When was the last time a Dem President was in office taht actually served? Jimmy Carter?

Yes, Trump wants to end this war, it's been going on for years, and is deadly....I get you all are warhawks now, and don't value life, but some of us do. Wanting peace is not weakness, or bowing down....I get that runs counter to the Fascsit ideology that has taken over the Dem party though.

3) That's a lie.

4) Huh? Ok, yes, I'll agree that the few billionares we have in this country have paid billions in taxes to the United States.

 

[Independent thinker]

Remember when the Logan Act was all the rage among Democrats? What happened to that?

I hope that if any of these Obama stooges still have security clearances, they are quickly revoked.

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The same traitors Same who colluded in Trump’s first impeachment and Russia hoax: Zelenskyy, Sullivan, Blinken, Rice, Nuland, and Vindman were the architects of Zelensky’s blowing up the peace talks. They are acting as foreign agents.​

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This is treasonous and most certainly a violation of the Logan Act. Ironically, this treasonous act will have the opposite effect of what they intended – chalk another up to the law of unintended consequences.​

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Obama’s Co-Conspirators Including Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice, Alexander Vindman Told Zelensky to Reject Trump Deal in Violation of Logan Act. - Geller Report

This is treasonous and most certainly a violation of the Logan Act. Ironically, this traitorous act will have the opposite effect of what they intended - chalk another one up to the law of unintended consequences.

gellerreport.com

I'd like to actually hear what Zelensky and the leftists define as security guarantees, something that would bring on WWIII?

 

[struth]

I'd like to actually hear what Zelensky and the leftists define as security guarantees, something that would bring on WWIII?

Z's made it clear, he wants US troops on the ground. The Dems have made clear, they stand with Z. Supporting the Dems, means you support your sons and daugthers being on the battle field in Ukraine.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

No. Did the Ukraine?

What? Didn't realize we have been sending them money since 1945.

 

[Curried Goats]

1) um the deal, that he is ready to sign, has nothing to do with ceding terroritory to Russia. Idiot.

What deal you idiot? They havent worked out any details yet. Zelenski doesn't want to give up territory to Russia, as your own link said, so how do you get a peace deal when one side doesn't want to give up territory and the other side is occupying territory that it won't give up? How does Trump plan to marry those two opposing goals into some sort of peace deal?

2) haha, geez man, you just had Xiden as President and you're mocking Trump from not serving? When was the last time a Dem President was in office taht actually served? Jimmy Carter?

It's not comparison between Trump and Biden that I'm drawing you fuckwit, it's a comparison between Trump and Zelensky that we were talking about. Why are you trying to play these *****, bait and switch games with me?

Yes, Trump wants to end this war, it's been going on for years, and is deadly....I get you all are warhawks now, and don't value life, but some of us do. Wanting peace is not weakness, or bowing down....I get that runs counter to the Fascsit ideology that has taken over the Dem party though.

Who gives a **** if Trump wants to end the war? His country isn't the one at war or being invaded you moron.

3) That's a lie.

What's a lie?

4) Huh? Ok, yes, I'll agree that the few billionares we have in this country have paid billions in taxes to the United States.

And can still pay billions more. Lift them by their ankles and shake them for all their worth I say.

 

[Curried Goats]

I was just in the former Confederacy last week. I saw better race relations than I do in the NorthEast.

Good for you I guess.

 

[Independent thinker]

Z's made it clear, he wants US troops on the ground. The Dems have made clear, they stand with Z. Supporting the Dems, means you support your sons and daugthers being on the battle field in Ukraine.

And if the US did that, WWIII has started with no turning back.

 

[struth]

And if the US did that, WWIII has started with no turning back.

Frankly, I am at the point where I think that is in fact what the Demafacsit party wants.

 

[struth]

What deal you idiot? They havent worked out any details yet. Zelenski doesn't want to give up territory to Russia, as your own link said, so how do you get a peace deal when one side doesn't want to give up territory and the other side is occupying territory that it won't give up? How does Trump plan to marry those two opposing goals into some sort of peace deal?

It's not comparison between Trump and Biden that I'm drawing you fuckwit, it's a comparison between Trump and Zelensky that we were talking about. Why are you trying to play these *****, bait and switch games with me?

Who gives a **** if Trump wants to end the war? His country isn't the one at war or being invaded you moron.

What's a lie?

And can still pay billions more. Lift them by their ankles and shake them for all their worth I say.

1) the deal that Z is ready to sign, the one we have been talking about. The minerial deal with the United States that would give security. Please learn to keep up with current events dembot

2) Who was comparing Trump to Z? what in the world are you talking about? What is there to compare? We aren't at war with any country, he is. He wants our help, well MORE of our help.

3) That Musk hasn't found any fraud, waste or abuse and that he is "cutting" programs he just doesn't like. All of your statement was a lie

4) You haven't shown where they have paid one cent. Trump was trying to get that done, Z was on board with signing it. I assume you support Trump in that effort then?

 

[Independent thinker]

Frankly, I am at the point where I think that is in fact what the Demafacsit party wants.

Sure seems like it. And, of course, they will somehow blame it on Republicans.