Obamas speech just ended and now the market is down 500

[hortysir]

You know.........the market GAINED over 200 points today.

I'd wait before jumping to assumptions.

In math class they taught me that equaled a "net" 400 LOSS.

People with a longer attention span than, oh I don't know, 24 hrs are able to make that calculation.

 

[J.E.D]

First off I doubt that is true and second of all the only Obama budget that I know of got 0 votes in the Senate, that means Dems said no, not the TP on it's own... So give me a link to this magical Obama bill and the votes and where the TP votes were what fucked it or I'll assume you're making shit up.

There was no bill. Are you that stupid? There was a framework for a deal reached between Obama and Boehner. Obama offered trillion in cuts in exchange for a little revenue. Boehner agreed. But then the Tea Party said no. So instead of 4 trillion, they got 1.5 trillion. It's pretty common knowledge. Try reading sometime....with your head removed from your ass this time. And anyway, Boehner said he got 98% of what he wanted, so I guess he was pretty happy with the 1.5 trillion that you're now bitching about.

Why do you keep ignoring the FACT that Obama changed the deal after the deal was struct? Make your argument inconvienent for you?

Link. Proof.

 

[J.E.D]

The PJ Tatler » President Obama Again Refuses to Accept any Responsibility, Offers No Deficit Reduction Plan

Great, an opinion piece from a far-right webrag. that's credible.

Everyone is realizing what a sham Obama has turned out to be. Stop whining.

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

 

[J.E.D]

First off I doubt that is true and second of all the only Obama budget that I know of got 0 votes in the Senate, that means Dems said no, not the TP on it's own... So give me a link to this magical Obama bill and the votes and where the TP votes were what fucked it or I'll assume you're making shit up.

There was no bill. Are you that stupid? There was a framework for a deal reached between Obama and Boehner. Obama offered trillion in cuts in exchange for a little revenue. Boehner agreed. But then the Tea Party said no. So instead of 4 trillion, they got 1.5 trillion. It's pretty common knowledge. Try reading sometime....with your head removed from your ass this time. And anyway, Boehner said he got 98% of what he wanted, so I guess he was pretty happy with the 1.5 trillion that you're now bitching about.

So you have no proof, good work!

Bonehard might have got 98% but Obama got 100% being he signed it into law... That is how history will remember it, not your BS way. You sign it, you own it... That's the rules.

I'll bet you anything the deal that passed was agreed to and written before all this started lol.

Or wait, I'm supposed to believe that Obama had 4 trillion in cuts but decided to cut that back to 2 trillion in cuts just because he didn't get 400 billion in taxes? Do you even listen to yourself? Why didn't he just drop the raising taxes (not that he ever planed on raising them) and go with the cuts? Instead Obama held the country hostage and caused a downgrade and you're good with that? Crazy times lol.

Where's your proof?

 

[J.E.D]

Oh come on!!! Lol! It's been almost 3 years since obama took over, he's had all this time to do SOMETHING to prove himself and that has helped our economy at all...he hasn't! He waited until just weeks before the default deadline to even START talks, and he KNEW these talks were not going to be easy! He could have started them months ago....he's incompetent and should be impeached!

You're clueless. The debt ceiling has been a routine vote since...well, always. The GOP turned it into a political football. It's not the POTUS's responsibility to raise the debt ceiling, it's Congress's responsibility. Get back to me when you have a clue.

And you got your way, the debt ceiling was riased and you get to deal with what that came with, credit downgrading...

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

 

[J.E.D]

The market is up 200 today. It must be thanks to Obama. Thanks, Mr. President.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Great, an opinion piece from a far-right webrag. that's credible.

Everyone is realizing what a sham Obama has turned out to be. Stop whining.

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

 

[Wicked Jester]

The market is up 200 today. It must be thanks to Obama. Thanks, Mr. President.

Yeah, because he didn't open his ignorant mouth all day......As we witnessed yesterday while he was spewing his usual "blame everybody but me" drivel, the market freefalled with every word.

The man is so incompetent and out of his league, it's disgusting.

Thank god his sorry ass is outta there in a lil' over a year.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Everyone is realizing what a sham Obama has turned out to be. Stop whining.

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

He only seems to inject what the moronic left wing loons at the daily Kos and Huffpost tell him to inject.........An original thought on his part would cause an aneurysm to blow out of his friggin ear!

But hey, at least he undoubtedly helps to prove the point, that in general, liberals are fuckin' idiots!

 

[Caroljo]

You're clueless. The debt ceiling has been a routine vote since...well, always. The GOP turned it into a political football. It's not the POTUS's responsibility to raise the debt ceiling, it's Congress's responsibility. Get back to me when you have a clue.

And you got your way, the debt ceiling was riased and you get to deal with what that came with, credit downgrading...

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

Please notice the statement in red above....THAT is exactly why the debt ceiling should NOT have been raised! Why the hell should raising the debt ceiling be a "routine vote"?!?! If our government were doing what they should, it would never have to be raised! I'm not blaming just Obama...I'm blaming EVERY president and Congress. Someone has to put a stop to it, and it happens that the dems won't agree....

 

[J.E.D]

Everyone is realizing what a sham Obama has turned out to be. Stop whining.

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

I never demanded proof until a couple of you ass-clowns started demanding it of me. All I do is swoop in and insult? Yeah, ok, champ, whatever you say. You're just being a pissy little ***** because I owned your ignorant ass. Go **** yourself, ass-wipe.

 

[J.E.D]

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

He only seems to inject what the moronic left wing loons at the daily Kos and Huffpost tell him to inject.........An original thought on his part would cause an aneurysm to blow out of his friggin ear!

But hey, at least he undoubtedly helps to prove the point, that in general, liberals are fuckin' idiots!

Huhuhuhuhuhu .... uhhhhhhh...duuuhhhh

 

[Wicked Jester]

And you got your way, the debt ceiling was riased and you get to deal with what that came with, credit downgrading...

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

Please notice the statement in red above....THAT is exactly why the debt ceiling should NOT have been raised! Why the hell should raising the debt ceiling be a "routine vote"?!?! If our government were doing what they should, it would never have to be raised! I'm not blaming just Obama...I'm blaming EVERY president and Congress. Someone has to put a stop to it, and it happens that the dems won't agree....

Yep!......Cut the debt and deficit, cap the debt ceiling, and balance the damn budget.

Had these been done, the dowgrade would have never happened. The market wouldn't have crashed. And businesses and investors large and small would have confidence that our government can get it right.

Liberals will never be able to grasp that concept. It's just too mind boggling for their entitlement seeking asses.

 

[J.E.D]

The market is up 200 today. It must be thanks to Obama. Thanks, Mr. President.

Yeah, because he didn't open his ignorant mouth all day......As we witnessed yesterday while he was spewing his usual "blame everybody but me" drivel, the market freefalled with every word.

The man is so incompetent and out of his league, it's disgusting.

Thank god his sorry ass is outta there in a lil' over a year.

Yep, that's how it works in ass-backwards Teasackland. The market is down, so it's Obama's fault. The market is up, but not because of Obama. Make up your mind, douche. Either OPbama gets credit for it all, or he gets credit for nothing.This isn't your sex life, you can't have it both ways.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Who pulled your string? And what does your biased opinion have to do with the lack of credibility of a right-wing webrag? Sit down and shut the **** up. That's the best thing you can do.

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

I never demanded proof until a couple of you ass-clowns started demanding it of me. All I do is swoop in and insult? Yeah, ok, champ, whatever you say. You're just being a pissy little ***** because I owned your ignorant ass. Go **** yourself, ass-wipe.

Yes all you do is swoop in at the end. Yesterday I was having a debate with someone else and 3 pages late here you come demanding I stop calling Obama a socialist and a marxis.

After challenging you to point wher I ever said such things you moved onto someone else.

Ps. If I could **** myself I bet it would feel better than what Obama is doing to me right now. I lost a ton of money yesterday and Ive lost work from the senior population because he insists on making them worry when they dont need too. What have you got at stake besides you highschool pride?

 

[ba1614]

You're clueless. The debt ceiling has been a routine vote since...well, always. The GOP turned it into a political football. It's not the POTUS's responsibility to raise the debt ceiling, it's Congress's responsibility. Get back to me when you have a clue.

And you got your way, the debt ceiling was riased and you get to deal with what that came with, credit downgrading...

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

If it was raised 17 times, that would be about every 6 months, why then "all of a sudden" does obama want enough for a year and a half, and wouldn't consider anything less?

 

[J.E.D]

**** your proof and while your at it, **** you. All you ever do is swoop in at the end of a debate and throw in your worthless insults and demands for proof. Get some balls and throw out some of your own issues and opinions instead of always injecting in someone elses. Or is that all your capable of.......

I never demanded proof until a couple of you ass-clowns started demanding it of me. All I do is swoop in and insult? Yeah, ok, champ, whatever you say. You're just being a pissy little ***** because I owned your ignorant ass. Go **** yourself, ass-wipe.

Yes all you do is swoop in at the end. Yesterday I was having a debate with someone else and 3 pages late here you come demanding I stop calling Obama a socialist and a marxis.

After challenging you to point wher I ever said such things you moved onto someone else.

Ps. If I could **** myself I bet it would feel better than what Obama is doing to me right now. I lost a ton of money yesterday and Ive lost work from the senior population because he insists on making them worry when they dont need too. What have you got at stake besides you highschool pride?

What are you talking about? That was not me. Unless you can prove it, shut the **** up. Go ahead, go through my posts and show me where I DEMANDED that you stop calling Obama a marxist/socialist. I'm sure it was a real enlightening moment, given your expertise on socialism and marxism, but you're wrong. Now get back to selling your body to old people, or whatever you do.

 

[J.E.D]

And you got your way, the debt ceiling was riased and you get to deal with what that came with, credit downgrading...

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

If it was raised 17 times, that would be about every 6 months, why then "all of a sudden" does obama want enough for a year and a half, and wouldn't consider anything less?

Because he doesn't want to deal with the GOP/TP hostage takers threatening to push the button again so soon after they almost destroyed the US's fragile economy.

 

[Caroljo]

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

If it was raised 17 times, that would be about every 6 months, why then "all of a sudden" does obama want enough for a year and a half, and wouldn't consider anything less?

Because he doesn't want to deal with the GOP/TP hostage takers threatening to push the button again so soon after they almost destroyed the US's fragile economy.

NO.....it's because obama doesn't want to have to go through this again BEFORE the next election! He knows how bad this one hurt him....he wouldn't agree to anything that would interfere with his campaigning.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Raisinf the debt ceiling doesn't mean that Obama got his way. The raising of the debt ceiling is a routine vote. It happened 17 times during Bush's presidency. Now all of a sudden it's a bargaining chip? That's laughable.

Americans are waking up to what the GOP is really all about. By refusing to put taxes on the table, the GOP showed everybody that they only work for the rich. Enjoy your "victory" while you can. In 2012, the GOP/TP is taking a big hit.

If it was raised 17 times, that would be about every 6 months, why then "all of a sudden" does obama want enough for a year and a half, and wouldn't consider anything less?

Because he doesn't want to deal with the GOP/TP hostage takers threatening to push the button again so soon after they almost destroyed the US's fragile economy.

Its called working for a living. Try it sometime. Beats the shit out of welfare