Obama's College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’

[8537]

I actually think there's a less sinister and more broad reason Romney won't release his taxes: Because showing them would give most Americans a peak into the deductions, exemptions, offshore accounts, tax havens etc...that most uber-rich take advantage of. It would demonstrate for all to see just how many loopholes are afforded the very wealthy, killing any plan such as Romney's to reduce taxes on the wealthiest Americans at the expense of the middle class.

 

[Si modo]

Fair enough. Although I may think your "suspicions" are rather misplaced, you are welcome to them.

At least you're not a birther.

With no objective evidence out there about his academic times, all I have is hearsay.

So, suspicions seem pretty natural. I got nothin'. Zip.

Here's the thing - there are nearly endless things that you, me, and everyone else have no objective evidence on. Things that we all take for granted.

I have no objective evidence that Romney didn't spend his entire "missionary" work whoring around Europe. I've never seen any evidence that he isn't the father of over 40 illegitimate children.

The lack of evidence against something isn't a reason to believe it.

Ironic, too, that a person with only months of work record pertinent to the job, never shows transcripts, but sure as hell sold his 'constitutional scholar' and 'intellectual' rhetoric.

The sum total of irony present in rhetoric from both sides is quite large.

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

 

[GoneBezerk]

The IRS has Romney's tax returns.

Columbia and Harvard, two private universities have Obamination's academic records.

The IRS can throw Romney in jail for fraud, whereas Harvard and Columbia wouldn't want to prove Obamination is a fraud because they sell his attendance for future students.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

With no objective evidence out there about his academic times, all I have is hearsay.

So, suspicions seem pretty natural. I got nothin'. Zip.

Here's the thing - there are nearly endless things that you, me, and everyone else have no objective evidence on. Things that we all take for granted.

I have no objective evidence that Romney didn't spend his entire "missionary" work whoring around Europe. I've never seen any evidence that he isn't the father of over 40 illegitimate children.

The lack of evidence against something isn't a reason to believe it.

Ironic, too, that a person with only months of work record pertinent to the job, never shows transcripts, but sure as hell sold his 'constitutional scholar' and 'intellectual' rhetoric.

The sum total of irony present in rhetoric from both sides is quite large.

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

 

[JoeB131]

Here is the real truth of why Dirty Harry will outright lie about Romney, as if anyone with half a brain didn't already know.

Obama's College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’


Root: Obama

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

I think there's an issue of relevence here.

ROmney is a rich guy who has benefited from the tax laws. We have a right to know how much before we put him in a position, and frankly, his lack of candor is rather disturbing.

Frankly, I can't think of a thing that might be in Obama's College Records that would be relevent in any way, shape or form.

 

[Si modo]

Here's the thing - there are nearly endless things that you, me, and everyone else have no objective evidence on. Things that we all take for granted.

I have no objective evidence that Romney didn't spend his entire "missionary" work whoring around Europe. I've never seen any evidence that he isn't the father of over 40 illegitimate children.

The lack of evidence against something isn't a reason to believe it.



The sum total of irony present in rhetoric from both sides is quite large.

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

I guess if missionary work done in 1966 is all that pertinent to the job, then yeah, you sure can believe that. So can I.

I wouldn't care.

I DO care that Obama provide the most basic docs for a professional job - transcripts - ESPECIALLY one where that was his selling point.

I don't hire anyone without transcripts. And, when I worked for the US government, they would never hire me without transcripts. He works for the US government...

Well, he works for ALL Americans, not just Democrats.

 

[JoeB131]

Nice.

From the link....

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

Romney won't go there... He immediately opens himself up to charges of racism if he does.

"Oh, Obama couldn't possibly have gotten there on his merits... he's black!"

Let's say he was the worst college student, ever.

So what?

College becomes pretty much irrelevent after your first job. How many 51 year old job applicants put their college career first on their resume?

 

[P@triot]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

 

[Si modo]

GWB released his. Is Obama afraid that his grades won't measure up in comparison?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Here's the thing - there are nearly endless things that you, me, and everyone else have no objective evidence on. Things that we all take for granted.

I have no objective evidence that Romney didn't spend his entire "missionary" work whoring around Europe. I've never seen any evidence that he isn't the father of over 40 illegitimate children.

The lack of evidence against something isn't a reason to believe it.



The sum total of irony present in rhetoric from both sides is quite large.

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

And that line of reasoning can also be employed in discussing Romney's taxes, can it not?

 

[Si modo]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

While I don't agree that he is not a citizen, he IS the employee of ALL Americans. And, government employees must provide transcripts.

It's simple.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Uh idiot, if Obamination lied about his US citizenship to the US voters or his colleges, then he is a fraud....a criminal. If he got student aid based on lies given to those colleges then he is a criminal.

Maybe he had some white liberals that paid his way through college i.e. his handlers today that brought him through Chicago politics. That shady background would also cause voters to question who he is.

The IRS has never indicted Romney so there isn't shit in his tax records. He is just smart enough to know that the liberal media will play up his wealth line by line if he is dumb enough to play into the trap.

It's not surprising an idiot like you is following along like a typical liberal twit.

Here is the real truth of why Dirty Harry will outright lie about Romney, as if anyone with half a brain didn't already know.

Obama's College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’


Root: Obama

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

I think there's an issue of relevence here.

ROmney is a rich guy who has benefited from the tax laws. We have a right to know how much before we put him in a position, and frankly, his lack of candor is rather disturbing.

Frankly, I can't think of a thing that might be in Obama's College Records that would be relevent in any way, shape or form.

 

[Si modo]

Here's the thing - there are nearly endless things that you, me, and everyone else have no objective evidence on. Things that we all take for granted.

I have no objective evidence that Romney didn't spend his entire "missionary" work whoring around Europe. I've never seen any evidence that he isn't the father of over 40 illegitimate children.

The lack of evidence against something isn't a reason to believe it.



The sum total of irony present in rhetoric from both sides is quite large.

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

There is no evidence, period. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Rien. But, ipse dixit. That's nothing.

He made the claim. The burden is on him to prove it. The burden is never on me or anyone else to disprove it.

Burden. Simple logic. Founding principle of our nation of Law.

He is, and has been, shirking burden.

 

[JoeB131]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

All college records are confidential and sealed, as they should be. That's the law.

Exactly what do you think is in his college records that proves he's a "Marxist"? (A "Marxist" being anyone who doesn't think we should feed Poor People to Dressage Horses, apparently.)

Honestly, right wing crap I wrote in college I would be genuinely embarrased by now. "OH, Jesus, did I write that. I was really full of it back then." (I'm only a year younger than the President, BTW).

Mitt, on the other hand, has offered his business stewardship as his main qualification. Except he's being shifty on parts of it. WHen did he leave Bain? What Bain decisions was he involved in? How much would he personally benefit from tax laws he's advocating? His tax records would answer a lot of those questions, and the fact he isn't doing what Republican and Democratic contenders have done for years (including his own father) indicates he doesn't like those answers.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

I guess if missionary work done in 1966 is all that pertinent to the job, then yeah, you sure can believe that. So can I.

I wouldn't care.

I DO care that Obama provide the most basic docs for a professional job - transcripts - ESPECIALLY one where that was his selling point.

I don't hire anyone without transcripts. And, when I worked for the US government, they would never hire me without transcripts. He works for the US government...

Well, he works for ALL Americans, not just Democrats.

The question of whether or not Obama should release his college records is not what I'm talking about.

I see nothing wrong about asking Obama to release his college records - not that I think he should, or will.

It boils down to politics - is it in Obama's best interest, election-wise, to release his college records? Will it cause a net gain in votes?

The answer is No, of course. It's a no-win situation for him, which is exactly why that particular talking point has been pushed so far, and why he can't, and won't respond to it.

 

[Si modo]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

All college records are confidential and sealed, as they should be. That's the law.

Exactly what do you think is in his college records that proves he's a "Marxist"? (A "Marxist" being anyone who doesn't think we should feed Poor People to Dressage Horses, apparently.)

Honestly, right wing crap I wrote in college I would be genuinely embarrased by now. "OH, Jesus, did I write that. I was really full of it back then." (I'm only a year younger than the President, BTW).

Mitt, on the other hand, has offered his business stewardship as his main qualification. Except he's being shifty on parts of it. WHen did he leave Bain? What Bain decisions was he involved in? How much would he personally benefit from tax laws he's advocating? His tax records would answer a lot of those questions, and the fact he isn't doing what Republican and Democratic contenders have done for years (including his own father) indicates he doesn't like those answers.

Transcripts are sealed. He can unseal them. So could I when I got my government job (no longer there).

I certainly didn't have to. But, if I wanted the job, I sure as hell did.

He works for us, ALL Americans.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

And that line of reasoning can also be employed in discussing Romney's taxes, can it not?

Feel free to find a post of mine where I've called for Romney to release his tax records.

And there's no reason to think that picture was taken in France, or that he wasn't on his way to the whorehouse on that bicycle.

 

[JoeB131]

Uh idiot, if Obamination lied about his US citizenship to the US voters or his colleges, then he is a fraud....a criminal. If he got student aid based on lies given to those colleges then he is a criminal.

Maybe he had some white liberals that paid his way through college i.e. his handlers today that brought him through Chicago politics. That shady background would also cause voters to question who he is.

The IRS has never indicted Romney so there isn't shit in his tax records. He is just smart enough to know that the liberal media will play up his wealth line by line if he is dumb enough to play into the trap.

It's not surprising an idiot like you is following along like a typical liberal twit.
]

Never said Romney didn't follow the law. But saying Romney did nothing wrong on his taxes is like saying O.J. is an innocent man. Legally and technically correct, but not really.

The theory that he had to claim to be a foreign student in the 1980's is laughable. I went to college in the 1980's, and frankly, the paperwork they go through was insane. Knew a gal from India who was here on a scholarship, until her parents pulled her home for the arranged marriage.

No president has handed over his college records. All of them but Romney have handed over their tax records.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

All college records are confidential and sealed, as they should be. That's the law.

Exactly what do you think is in his college records that proves he's a "Marxist"? (A "Marxist" being anyone who doesn't think we should feed Poor People to Dressage Horses, apparently.)

Honestly, right wing crap I wrote in college I would be genuinely embarrased by now. "OH, Jesus, did I write that. I was really full of it back then." (I'm only a year younger than the President, BTW).

Mitt, on the other hand, has offered his business stewardship as his main qualification. Except he's being shifty on parts of it. WHen did he leave Bain? What Bain decisions was he involved in? How much would he personally benefit from tax laws he's advocating? His tax records would answer a lot of those questions, and the fact he isn't doing what Republican and Democratic contenders have done for years (including his own father) indicates he doesn't like those answers.

Joe, can you show me a Presidential candidate in the last 30 years that DIDN'T release their college records OTHER than Obama?

And again, it's not about what he did or didn't write, it's about who he said he was at the time. Did he get aid as a foreign student? I think he did, and that is FRAUD!

 

[8537]

The few examples you posted were alluding to proving a negative.

I'm not asking that anyone prove a negative, not even Obama.

I AM asking that he support his claim. The burden it on him - he has made the claims.

Until he does, I don't believe any of it. And, the funny thing is, I actually bought it from him....never suspected that he didn't have the academic experience that he said he had.

But, then, this "constitutional scholar" started doing some of THE most moronic things I have seen done by a POTUS in a long time.

Anyway, I sidetrack. He made the claim, the burden is on HIM to support it.

Combined with the fact that he only has a few months of experience, no offense, but only fools trust that new hires with no experience have the education they say - transcripts are it, if there is little to no experience.

I really don't see how this is confusing so many.

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

My point is more along these lines, though: The fact that you disagree with what Obama has done is not "evidence" that Obama pretended to be foreign to get into Columbia.

There's literally not a single piece of evidence that even implies that he did.

And that line of reasoning can also be employed in discussing Romney's taxes, can it not?

I see no evidence those pictures are (1) real, (2) taken in France or (3) include Mitt Romney.

Sorry, we need stronger evidence to prove he was in France during the time he was eligible to be drafted into the war he protested FOR, the Vietnam war.