Obamacare overcharged healthy & young people that needed insurance to help fund the cost of insurance for sick people

[ColonelAngus]

I heard this story right from the person’s mouth…..They needed an MRI for their knee. They went through insurance and it was $5000.

They callled a different hospital and asked how much if they just pay in cash. It was $750.

They called back the original hospital and asked if they could just pay cash. That hospital said since the person had ALREADY ASKED about insurance, they were not allowed to pay cash.



That epitomes Healthcare today.

 

[Mashmont]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

A leftwing program that turned out to be an expensive scam? How could that be?

 

[hadit]

Don't even try to teach them about spreading the risk. It won't work for most of maga.

There's actually a place for government in healthcare, and that's in the diagnostic arena. It's relatively lower cost, making it free to everyone at the point of sale would make it more attractive for people to get checked out, and it yields big dividends down the road because problems such as cancer are easier to treat when they're caught early. That would allow for catastrophic care plans for bigger problems.

Naturally, politicians would find ways to mess that up and drive costs through the roof, but that's politics.

 

[hadit]

obamacare isn't insurance, therefore no one is paying a premium to obamacare.

Like I said, linguistic sleight of hand is at work. Think of it, even the term obamacare isn't a real thing. The bottom line remains, insurance plans put in the exchange established by the law charge premiums to customers.

 

[Winston]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

Do you not understand how insurance works?

 

[cnm]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

What a fuckwit. As though that isn't the way insurance should work.

edit...Oh, done already I see.

 

[IM2]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

Wrong. And you really don't know what socialism is. Health insurance would cost less if it were paid for with our taxes. Medicare premiums are lower than private insurance for the same services. Medicare is socialized healthcare. Take the profit motive out of health insurance and it will decrease in price.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

Obamacare premiums just went I by hundreds of dollars a month under Trump.

 

[Lisa558]

Right, so an obamadon'tcare policy CHARGES the customer. The complaint was that obamadon'tcare doesn't charge anyone. Verbal sleight of hand abounds.

Obamadon’tcare policy is such a mouthful. I prefer to just call it Obamacrap.

 

[Lisa558]

When you were in your 20s, you didn't have the medical options we have now.

Now this makes no sense.

We have more COVERED medical options, and insurance has driven the price UP for them. The medical options for things not covered were kept affordable.

 

[Lisa558]

Obamacare premiums just went I by hundreds of dollars a month under Trump.

I went from a $500 a month premium with a $2000 deductible that included my doctor pre-Obamacare to a $900 a month premium with a $6,000 deductible - and for which I had to pay my doctor for each visit OOP.

 

[22lcidw]

US healthcare was wrecked long ago, when it became a profit making enterprise controlled by Big Pharma.

You are a duopoly dupe, easily duped by right wing propaganda.

When citizens are lied to endlessly the duping is part of the way of living. The people who warned in the mid 1960's legislation were laughed at and ridiculed as the costs of medical has risen exponentially each year. Senator Moynahan a Prog in that era even warned. From their projections we were supposed to be paying perhaps a tenth of what we pay today through government medical costs.

 

[leftwinger]

US healthcare was wrecked long ago, when it became a profit making enterprise controlled by Big Pharma.

You are a duopoly dupe, easily duped by right wing propaganda.

What is the answer to give free treatment to sick or pre-existing? That is the problem they are trying to solve that they are hiding from the people.

Just say it. Including anyone here, illegals. Tourists.

They also want you to pay, sex changes, electives, 400lb smokers, trans, ghetto shootings, free medicine, Everyone gets an in-home nurse, wheelchairs, special beds, free electricity, landlines...etc.

How do they do it?

 

[Mr Natural]

Back in the day, healthcare insurance was one of the benefits paid by employers along with life insurance equivalent to your salary.

When did that change and why?

 

[Lisa558]

What is the answer to give free treatment to sick or pre-existing? That is the problem they are trying tovsolve that they are hiding from the people. Just say it. Including anyone here, illegals. Tourists.

They also want you to pay, sex changes, electives, 400lb smokers, trans, ghetto shootings. Everyone gets an in home nurse, wheelchairs, special beds, free electricity, landlines.

How do they do it?

If I ever decide I want a sex change (haha), I will first rob a bank. Then I can get taxpayers to fund it while I’m in prison.

 

[cnm]

Employers like the for profit system, it ties workers to them, mobility in the workplace is vastly restricted because of it.

 

[cnm]

Back in the day, healthcare insurance was one of the benefits paid by employers along with life insurance equivalent to your salary.

When did that change and why?

Around Raygun?

 

[Edgetho]

When was healthcare not a profit making enterprise?

You know who is controlled by Big Pharma?

Brought to you by Pfizer​

The majority of Health Care is Not-For-Profit. Any Insurance Company with tha name 'Mutual' in is a Not-For-Profit company. Many Insurance Companies are not for profit. State Farm Mutual, Northwestern Mutual, etc, etc. Many Hospitals are not for profit

 

[Lisa558]

Employers like the for profit system, it ties workers to them, mobility in the workplace is vastly restricted because of it.

If employers didn’t make a profit, there would be no jobs at all.

When I owned my business, the more profit I made the more people I could provide livelihoods to.

 

[leftwinger]

Back in the day, healthcare insurance was one of the benefits paid by employers along with life insurance equivalent to your salary.

When did that change and why?

When 100 million won't or can't work. See the black ghetto, those jailed, 600lbs, illegals, single mothers.. DEMS demand full free care for any and all.

Don't know how they get there. Mountains of regulations. Thick books mailed to all. Receipts to three places so complicated you need lawyers. Costs not understandable? 25 different plans. Govt plans to fit all. Yes, its a disastrous mess out there.

GOVT & Lawyers involved killed medical. How to fix it after? That's the issue. Define the problem? No one can.