Obamacare? BZZZT! Wrong answer.

[Moonglow]

Why does Obama, in true dictator fashion, keep hitting the campaign trail? Out there today talking about economic equality again. What a moronic socialist.

Did anyone hear the professors that testified today? Talked about National rebellion?

We need to take the country back and just may have to resort to less than desirable ways to do it

-Geaux

Like a sit in at a university?

All good plans need a starting point? Will they provide free toke?

-Geaux

Acid?

 

[Moonglow]

In small towns a boom like this can make or break them. You get Keystone with high paid welders coming in, literally you're setting off a financial YAY!!!!!! FIRESTORM!!!!! because they get the high paying money and the guys lay it out on the day to day.

They will only hire well hung pipe layers. When the oil is shipped by semen(sic).

 

[HenryBHough]

Rome newspaper back in the day announced the winner of their "World's Best Lover" competition with a headline:

PIPELINE LAID COAST To COAST!

Delmonico Pipeline (Pip-UH-lee-knee).

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

we could have 85% unemployment, and Obama would still force all of us to buy health insurance.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They cared about jobs every doggone year. That has never changed.

Then why do they advocate entitlement reform then? That's the prime obstacle to any able bodied man or woman getting a job. But then again, if people didn't care about the ACA, then why is it Obama's approval rating is at or below 40%, his trustworthiness is shot, and he continues to pivot away from a glaring disaster of his own making?

If that's what you call "not caring," I'd dare not ask what happens when he truly does care about something.

 

[william the wie]

Npw lets get dwn to the reality of job creation.

Man I'm so sick but I'm going to pull this off if it kills me tonight. Keystone. The Keystone pipeline.

It's such a win win. Obama denies.

Keystone won't create that many jobs but it's symptomatic of the problem.

Well the dregs of academia say Keystone won't create that many jobs.

First and foremost the OTHER KEYSTONE PIPELINES HAVE. yeah I meant it to be big.

No one is talking about when a boom happens in a region. If workers come in to work say for example on the Keystone....

Motel rooms are rented. Person who owns the motel has to hire more staff. Coffee sales go up in the town because the workers need coffee and hells bells the pizza dude gets tips out of the whazoo because the guys on the line want pizza when they are done their shift.

I could go on and on. To me this is 101. Obviously others don't understand this.

The mythology of equilibrium instead of three or more chaotic strange attractors in every economic data series still hold sway and bringing in a textbook example of Austrian economics is another no-no.

 

[edthecynic]

Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

That's a pretty good trick, since the ACA did not become law until the end of March 2010.

 

[Amelia]

Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

That's a pretty good trick, since the ACA did not become law until the end of March 2010.

Are you serious?

The process which brought it about dominated 2009, the threat of what it could mean heightened insecurity around the nation, and the time spent on creating and selling it was time Obama didn't spend on making sure the stimulus and mortgage saving programs were working effectively.

You weren't serious. You were just trying to make busy work for me. Well played. I fell for it and wasted time restating the obvious.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They cared about jobs every doggone year. That has never changed.

Yup. Jobs and the economy. THAT is what matters, and I never said to the exclusion of all else. But jobs are, far and away, the most important issue in America today.

This isn’t ‘news’ to republicans, they’ve known this since 2008 – and have been ignoring this fact for the last 5 years.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They cared about jobs every doggone year. That has never changed.

Yup. Jobs and the economy. THAT is what matters, and I never said to the exclusion of all else. But jobs are, far and away, the most important issue in America today.

This isn’t ‘news’ to republicans, they’ve known this since 2008 – and have been ignoring this fact for the last 5 years.

Really? And who was it that kept saying people could keep their doctors an insurance for 5 years? Hmm? Perhaps you were ignoring the facts, Clayton. Every single Republican knew this was going to hurt millions of people. Lo and behold, it did. What were you doing? Gleefully ignoring the realities--or should I say consequences--of government run healthcare.

 

[auditor0007]

I'm sorry. You apparently didn't read the article. The bulk of Americans Don't Care.

Jobs are more important. And they're right.

That makes you wrong.

We already knew this, so why did Obama push through the ACA?

Because any communist knows the first step in taking over a society is take over health care.

God forbid we become a communist country like Canada.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

Nonsense:

Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’

 

[william the wie]

Since people value life more than treasure and the medicaid subsidy has more than doubled the number of people on medicaid waiting lists ACA is an increasing existential threat and that is the biggest problem.

The GOP has no ownership of the bill since none of their members voted for it. That is the ACA's second biggest problem and that is huge.

Reduced service and higher costs for the poorest among us makes this the most regressive entitlement ever. That is the 3rd biggest problem.

The unexpected problem is that the GOP will not flat out repeal the bill come 2017 because it makes them look so good by comparison. What will happen is that the opportunity to gerrymander the whole damn country by encouraging medicaid migration to the states with exchanges is just too good of an opportunity to miss out on so the smart move is to make ACA optional for individual states and certify any and every state plan in the 35 non-exchange states as compliant.

In sum politics ain't beanbag and the politics of ACA suck worse than any other bill in the past century.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

Nonsense:

Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’

Key quote from the article you posted:



But many of the jobs added in recent months have been part-time, and this has led critics of Obamacare to argue that the implementation of health-care reform is the culprit. Because the legislation (officially the Affordable Care Act, or ACA) requires employers with at least 50 full-time workers to offer them health coverage or pay a penalty, the bill’s detractors claim that it creates a disincentive to hire full-timers and that you can already see the shift to part-time work in the data.


The idiot writer them claims part time jobs have decreased a whole entire 1% since the height of the recession....so Obamacare has nothing to do with slow job growth.

Ah....yeah....right.

Read more: Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

 

[Billy000]

According to a United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection poll released Monday, an overwhelming majority of Americans want Congress and President Barack Obama to focus on job creation more than any other issue — including health care.

The poll finds that by more than a 3-1 margin, voters would be “very pleased” or “somewhat pleased,” if the president and Congress worked together to create more jobs, as opposed to “very disappointed” or “somewhat disappointed.” Surprisingly, voters expressed very little partisan variation on how they hope the president and lawmakers create more jobs; 75 percent say they would be “pleased” or “very pleased” if jobs were created by reducing taxes and regulation – generally a Republican position – and 77 percent said the same about increasing investment in infrastructure projects, which Democrats tend to favor.

The findings should serve as a wakeup call for congressional Republicans, who have dedicated a great amount of their time to attacking the Affordable Care Act and its troubled rollout, and now say there is little left for them to do anything else.

According to The New York Times, U.S. Representative Reid Ribble (R-WI) even claimed that his constituents would not “want me to be overaggressive in writing new laws.” The new poll suggests that his constituents would disagree.

Besides job creation, other issues important to voters include gun and immigration reforms. According to the poll, 74 percent would be happy if lawmakers approved a proposal to expand background checks for gun purchases; only 22 percent said they would be unhappy if the legislation passed. Support for the issue split among partisan lines with nearly 75 percent of Democrats saying they would be “very pleased” if the measure passed, while only 38 percent of Republicans said the same. Still, a majority of GOP voters, 66 percent, did say they would be “somewhat pleased” by the legislation.

Looks like the echo chamber didn't get the memo. In 2010, the TPM won on "Jobs, jobs, jobs" - so again we ask, where are they? Yes, I get that they don't want to do anything that would look good for Obama. But they have constituents who do not care. It's time to work for the people who elected them, and that means strengthening the economy by putting Americans back to work.

The National Memo » Poll: Americans More Concerned With Job Creation Than Obamacare Woes

Great poll. Very telling. Unfortunately we know how successful tax cuts are with job creation. They aren't. Let's try infrastructure. God forbid we ever get that idea off the ground.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

Nonsense:

Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’

Key quote from the article you posted:



But many of the jobs added in recent months have been part-time, and this has led critics of Obamacare to argue that the implementation of health-care reform is the culprit. Because the legislation (officially the Affordable Care Act, or ACA) requires employers with at least 50 full-time workers to offer them health coverage or pay a penalty, the bill’s detractors claim that it creates a disincentive to hire full-timers and that you can already see the shift to part-time work in the data.


The idiot writer them claims part time jobs have decreased a whole entire 1% since the height of the recession....so Obamacare has nothing to do with slow job growth.

Ah....yeah....right.

Read more: Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

Hence why that article is called an 'opinion' since it doesn't reflect a factual viewpoint; as can be demonstrated in your post.

 

[Billy000]

Nonsense:

Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’

Key quote from the article you posted:



But many of the jobs added in recent months have been part-time, and this has led critics of Obamacare to argue that the implementation of health-care reform is the culprit. Because the legislation (officially the Affordable Care Act, or ACA) requires employers with at least 50 full-time workers to offer them health coverage or pay a penalty, the bill’s detractors claim that it creates a disincentive to hire full-timers and that you can already see the shift to part-time work in the data.


The idiot writer them claims part time jobs have decreased a whole entire 1% since the height of the recession....so Obamacare has nothing to do with slow job growth.

Ah....yeah....right.

Read more: Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

Hence why that article is called an 'opinion' since it doesn't reflect a factual viewpoint; as can be demonstrated in your post.

What? The entire point of this OP is to show what Americans think. That is a factual viewpoint.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Key quote from the article you posted:



But many of the jobs added in recent months have been part-time, and this has led critics of Obamacare to argue that the implementation of health-care reform is the culprit. Because the legislation (officially the Affordable Care Act, or ACA) requires employers with at least 50 full-time workers to offer them health coverage or pay a penalty, the bill’s detractors claim that it creates a disincentive to hire full-timers and that you can already see the shift to part-time work in the data.


The idiot writer them claims part time jobs have decreased a whole entire 1% since the height of the recession....so Obamacare has nothing to do with slow job growth.

Ah....yeah....right.

Read more: Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

Hence why that article is called an 'opinion' since it doesn't reflect a factual viewpoint; as can be demonstrated in your post.

What? The entire point of this OP is to show what Americans think. That is a factual viewpoint.

Wow. A liberally biased polling firm conducted the poll. Not buying it. Think I'm full of it?

The questions are tailored to get the desired responses from the respondents:

By more than three to one, Americans said they would be "very pleased" or "somewhat pleased," rather than "somewhat disappointed" or "very disappointed," if the chief executive and lawmakers worked together to create jobs—either by cutting taxes and regulations or by increasing federal spending on infrastructure projects. Both options were the most popular of the six policy goals offered to respondents, although majorities also said they'd be happy if the government reduced the deficit, passed an immigration overhaul that included a pathway to citizenship, and expanded gun-sale background checks.

That's not an honest poll, seeing as how 5.5 million people lost their insurance because of Obamacare, what good would getting a health plan at your job be, only to have it cancelled when the employer mandate kicks in, hmm? I highly doubt this is 'what Americans think.' You know what this reminds me of? A poll of liberals. How else do you get such responses?

I don't know where to begin or end with this. The bias is strong with this one.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And frankly, how can Obama create jobs when he's too indisposed with Obamacare?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Harvard poll: 57% of Millennials disapprove of Obamacare