Obama Takes Over...

[paulitician]

Signing statements are not supposed to replace legislation. That's what obaabaa has done.

Signing Statements were only bad when the other team was doing them. Now they're a wonderful God-given right for their Messiah. I know,it's crazy. It's all part of that "Hope & Change" thing though.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Nowhere in Article II, Section 2 does it say the Senate has the authority to deny an appointment because it doesn’t like a law it itself created.

This is the idiocy of Senate republicans.

Indeed, no one is contesting the qualifications of Richard Cordray, all agree he’s right for the job.

Republicans were holding up the nominations because they didn’t like the law – they passed. The remedy for that is to repeal the law or amend it. Whomever is appointed, he can’t do anything to change the law. And the Executive certainly doesn’t have the authority to change the law, or is that what republicans are advocating.

However inappropriate some may argue Obama’s actions, Senate republicans’ actions are equally inappropriate, if not more so, and they must sustain the ultimate blame.

 

[rightwinger]

Guess it's kind of like his vacations

They only object when Obama takes them

How many recess appointments did any other president ever make when the Senate was STILL in session?

Ever.

Let me know if you need extra time to find out.

In session for what? 20 seconds a day?

Take the president on and challenge his appointment. You want to play politics with these bogus we are still in session claims? Go for it

 

[rightwinger]

Ahh the joys of "Hope & Change"...Recess Appointments,Signing Statements,Patriot Act,GITMO,NDAA,SOPA,Raising Debt Limits,Rampant Cronyism,War,Wide Open Borders,and so on and so on...Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

The biggest accomplishment of this administration is giving the "gay community" a month, opening the doors to the states teaching kids in school about "LGBT History"... starting with... Genesis 19.

Someone has a hardon for gays

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obama believes himself dictator, it's up to public outrage to snap the fucker back in line.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In session for what? 20 seconds a day?

Clearly not the Framers’ intent.

 

[Trajan]

Well Boehner would say that, even though I'm sure he knows he's not exactly telling the truth.

President William J. Clinton made 139 recess appointments, 95 to full-time positions. President
George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, of which 99 were to full-time positions.2 As of
December 8, 2011, President Barack Obama had made 28 recess appointments, all to full-time
positions.
http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0DP+P\W; P

FYI, Ronald Reagan had 240!

and this matters why?

I am not arguing his right to make them, I will however argue his rank hypocrisy on thi9s matter ( and reids too) and the fact that the senate is in session.

 

[Trajan]

In session for what? 20 seconds a day?

Clearly not the Framers’ intent.

 

[Old Rocks]

Signing statements are not supposed to replace legislation. That's what obaabaa has done.

Gee golly whiz. Well shall we compare the Bush record to that of President Obama?

List of President Obama's Signing Statements -

List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush

Now that leaves you looking pretty damned stupid, doesn't it.

 

[Stephanie]

Ahh the joys of "Hope & Change"...Recess Appointments,Signing Statements,Patriot Act,GITMO,NDAA,SOPA,Raising Debt Limits,Rampant Cronyism,War,Wide Open Borders,and so on and so on...Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

yep, that's the funny thing about it...They bitch and bitch about Bush, but the Obama is doing the EXACT same things and MUCH more...NDAA, SOPA, raising the debt ceiling, etc etc...and THEY CHEER HIM..

 

[freedombecki]

Obama sets up clash with Congress over Recess Appointments.

Defying Congress, President Obama used his recess appointment powers Wednesday to name a head for the controversial Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and three new members to the National Labor Relations board — moves Republican senators said amounted to a constitutional power grab.

The president acted just a day after the Senate held a session, breaking with at least three different precedents that said the Senate must be in recess for at least three days for a recess appointment. Mr. Obama himself was part of two of those precedents, both during his own time in the Senate and again in 2010 when one of his administration’s top constitutional lawyers made the three-day argument to the Supreme Court.

Mr. Obama tapped Richard Cordray to head the CFPB and named three others to the labor board — all of which had been stymied by congressional Republicans who said Mr. Obama is accruing too much power to himself through those two agencies.

“Although the Senate is not in recess, President Obama, in an unprecedented move, has arrogantly circumvented the American people,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican.

GOP House Speaker John A. Boehner called the move “an extraordinary and entirely unprecedented power grab by President Obama that defies centuries of practice and the legal advice of his own Justice Department.”

Read More:
Obama sets up clash with Congress over recess appointments - Washington Times
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

He couldn't keep his pants on for 3 days as the law says he must to appoint people after Congress is dismissed?

Waikiki beckons...

 

[Jroc]

Congress was not in recess, so Obama cannot Recess appoint anybody Bush never appointed anyone in this manner. Obama doesn't decide when congress is in session

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 5 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

 

[jillian]

Congress was not in recess, so Obama cannot Recess appoint anybody Bush never appointed anyone in this manner. Obama doesn't decide when congress is in session

what are you talking about?

 

[Jroc]

Congress was not in recess, so Obama cannot Recess appoint anybody Bush never appointed anyone in this manner. Obama doesn't decide when congress is in session

what are you talking about?

What did I say congress is not in recess.

 

[Jroc]

The only way the president can make a recess appointment for Cordray is if Congress is actually in recess. And ever since late May, Congress has remained in permanent session, mainly because Republican lawmakers want to prevent any more recess appointments.

Donald Ritchie, the Senate's official historian, says several presidents have used a constitutional provision that allows them to convene a session of Congress.

"But there is this other provision that says, well, if the two houses themselves can't agree on an adjournment, the president can adjourn Congress," Ritchie says. "It's just that no president has ever exercised that constitutional authority."

Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch says taking such a measure "would be a very unwise political thing to do."

Hatch doubts President Obama would actually exercise his constitutional power to adjourn Congress in order to make recess appointments.

"It would make him look like he's stupid, because as much as he hates Congress, or ... [as a] more fair statement, might hate Congress, he still needs it," Hatch says

Congress Won't Recess To Block Obama Appointments : NPR

 

[kiwiman127]

So, every single poll showed a huge majority of "We the People" wanted financial reform and consumer protection after the Great Recession. The bill to form such an agency was was passed by Congress and signed off by Obama. Since then the GOP has done everything possible to defy the will of the people and their favorite tactic has been stall the appointment of a head of CFPB. It's been six months now!
And people here are complaining about Obama's appointment because congress may or may not be in recess.
What ever happened to "We the People" or the Will of the People"? A huge majority of Americans wanted the Bureau to happen, the bill passed in Congress and was signed into law and the GOP ignores everything.
And people wonder why every poll shows the US public thinks the GOP is the biggest reason this country has a do-nothing-Congress.

 

[Jroc]

So, every single poll showed a huge majority of "We the People" wanted financial reform and consumer protection after the Great Recession. The bill to form such an agency was was passed by Congress and signed off by Obama. Since then the GOP has done everything possible to defy the will of the people and their favorite tactic has been stall the appointment of a head of CFPB. It's been six months now!
And people here are complaining about Obama's appointment because congress may or may not be in recess.
What ever happened to "We the People" or the Will of the People"? A huge majority of Americans wanted the Bureau to happen, the bill passed in Congress and was signed into law and the GOP ignores everything.
And people wonder why every poll shows the US public thinks the GOP is the biggest reason this country has a do-nothing-Congress.

People like you and Obama don't think they should follow the constitution

 

[Oddball]

Signing statements are not supposed to replace legislation. That's what obaabaa has done.

Gee golly whiz. Well shall we compare the Bush record to that of President Obama?

List of President Obama's Signing Statements -

List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush

Now that leaves you looking pretty damned stupid, doesn't it.

Boiking campaigned on having no signing statements.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seAR1S1Mjkc]Obama on Presidential Signing Statements - YouTube[/ame]

Now who looks stupid, stupid?

 

[kiwiman127]

So, every single poll showed a huge majority of "We the People" wanted financial reform and consumer protection after the Great Recession. The bill to form such an agency was was passed by Congress and signed off by Obama. Since then the GOP has done everything possible to defy the will of the people and their favorite tactic has been stall the appointment of a head of CFPB. It's been six months now!
And people here are complaining about Obama's appointment because congress may or may not be in recess.
What ever happened to "We the People" or the Will of the People"? A huge majority of Americans wanted the Bureau to happen, the bill passed in Congress and was signed into law and the GOP ignores everything.
And people wonder why every poll shows the US public thinks the GOP is the biggest reason this country has a do-nothing-Congress.

People like you and Obama don't think they should follow the constitution

Now that's a deflection.
My post is about the GOP ignoring what Americans want and legislation passed, also it's about the perception of the GOP and the do-nothing-Congress by the public..

 

[Jroc]

So, every single poll showed a huge majority of "We the People" wanted financial reform and consumer protection after the Great Recession. The bill to form such an agency was was passed by Congress and signed off by Obama. Since then the GOP has done everything possible to defy the will of the people and their favorite tactic has been stall the appointment of a head of CFPB. It's been six months now!
And people here are complaining about Obama's appointment because congress may or may not be in recess.
What ever happened to "We the People" or the Will of the People"? A huge majority of Americans wanted the Bureau to happen, the bill passed in Congress and was signed into law and the GOP ignores everything.
And people wonder why every poll shows the US public thinks the GOP is the biggest reason this country has a do-nothing-Congress.

People like you and Obama don't think they should follow the constitution

Now that's a deflection.
My post is about the GOP ignoring what Americans want and legislation passed, also it's about the perception of the GOP and the do-nothing-Congress by the public..

it's not the job of the federal government to give Americans everything they want. And your democrats havn't even passes a budget in 3 yrs.. Do nothing indeed