Obama Skips D-Day, Celebrates Ford's Theater Instead

[MaggieMae]

There really isn't enough blame heaped on Carter. He deserves more than he gets. But, on the bright side, at least we finally got to his second term.

Wasn't his second term Reagan's? You know...Illegal Amnesty and Iran-Contra?

I liked Iran-Contra. Completely in favor. I also liked arming and supplying both Iran and Iraq so they could keep killing each other as long as they wanted to. I blame the fact that we had to stop doing that on the short sighted Congressional Democrats. That nice bit of "gotcha" politics ended up by use having fight Iraq ourselves inside 3 years. Stupid.

You're right on the amnesty. Reagan never should have believed the Dems when they said they would take steps to enforce the border if he gave amnesty. Reagan was just to good of a guy to think that every Democrat was lying, snake in the grass just out for his own hide. But, in the intervening 20 years I think we've all been taught the abject lesson over and over again the the Dems just want all the power and control they can seize and will do Anything to get it and keep it.

Iran-Contra had nothing to do with Iraq. The whole plot was illegal, done WITHOUT congressional approval. Too bad we didn't have the Internet back then so that the public could have really seen how this happened, because it was an impeachable offense against Ronald Reagan, no doubt about it.

Iran-Contra Affair

 

[Coyote]

Anyone have any idea what Obama is doing on July 4th? I need to know what to wear to project appropriate outrage

 

[bodecea]

Anyone have any idea what Obama is doing on July 4th? I need to know what to wear to project appropriate outrage

Doesn't really matter, does it? It will be wrong no matter what.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Wasn't his second term Reagan's? You know...Illegal Amnesty and Iran-Contra?

I liked Iran-Contra. Completely in favor. I also liked arming and supplying both Iran and Iraq so they could keep killing each other as long as they wanted to. I blame the fact that we had to stop doing that on the short sighted Congressional Democrats. That nice bit of "gotcha" politics ended up by use having fight Iraq ourselves inside 3 years. Stupid.

You're right on the amnesty. Reagan never should have believed the Dems when they said they would take steps to enforce the border if he gave amnesty. Reagan was just to good of a guy to think that every Democrat was lying, snake in the grass just out for his own hide. But, in the intervening 20 years I think we've all been taught the abject lesson over and over again the the Dems just want all the power and control they can seize and will do Anything to get it and keep it.

Iran-Contra had nothing to do with Iraq. The whole plot was illegal, done WITHOUT congressional approval. Too bad we didn't have the Internet back then so that the public could have really seen how this happened, because it was an impeachable offense against Ronald Reagan, no doubt about it.

Iran-Contra Affair

Don't get your panties in a twist Ronald Reagan hasn't been President since 1989. I heard somewhere that you should stop yapping about Presidents that haven't been news in over 9 years.

 

[Tech_Esq]

is that what we call faux outrage these days??? critiquing?

Faux outrage? I call it just making note of the fact that he is failing in part of his job performance. As I said earlier, it's about 15% of his grade. He is the head of state in the American system of government and it is his job to perform those duties. To the extent he fails to do it, he gets an "F" on that job. To the extent he keeps doing it, his entire grade for that portion of his job may drop into the "F" range. He's done a very poor job of it so far, but it's early yet, he could improve.

It's not faux outrage to expect the President to do his job and comment on it when he doesn't.

 

[boedicca]

Fauxoutrage

–noun
1.
an accusation often used by progressives to deflect attention away from valid criticism and objective observations regarding their party leaders.

 

[MaggieMae]

so what you're saying is that because bush was an idiot, you're going to try to pretend obama is an idiot?

that's pretty goofy.


how about laying blame for the things bush did that are still having ramifications where they belong... on bush.

i don't believe that obama was slow responding... i think that's the rightwingnut meme.

Of course the Left is spreading a meme that Obama's team was on the job from Day One. If that were the case, why aren't the berms in place to protect the shore? Why is the leak Not Plugged?

The Day One garbage is spin. They dropped the ball - and now the ecology and the economy of the gulf are much worse disasters than they had to be.

But let's party and take vacations!

I see your ignorance has only grown. Now it's borderline stupidy because you absolutely refuse to look at the facts.

 

[MaggieMae]

As I have said several times in other thread's, BP is responsible for the spill - but Obama is responsible for the federal response. When something of this scale happens, it is in the country's best interests for to deploy resources to contain the damage as much as possible.

More here:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...hat-should-obama-have-done-3.html#post2371328

So your opinions are now stated as fact? I'm really worried about you, Bo.

 

[MaggieMae]

I liked Iran-Contra. Completely in favor. I also liked arming and supplying both Iran and Iraq so they could keep killing each other as long as they wanted to. I blame the fact that we had to stop doing that on the short sighted Congressional Democrats. That nice bit of "gotcha" politics ended up by use having fight Iraq ourselves inside 3 years. Stupid.

You're right on the amnesty. Reagan never should have believed the Dems when they said they would take steps to enforce the border if he gave amnesty. Reagan was just to good of a guy to think that every Democrat was lying, snake in the grass just out for his own hide. But, in the intervening 20 years I think we've all been taught the abject lesson over and over again the the Dems just want all the power and control they can seize and will do Anything to get it and keep it.

Iran-Contra had nothing to do with Iraq. The whole plot was illegal, done WITHOUT congressional approval. Too bad we didn't have the Internet back then so that the public could have really seen how this happened, because it was an impeachable offense against Ronald Reagan, no doubt about it.

Iran-Contra Affair

Don't get your panties in a twist Ronald Reagan hasn't been President since 1989. I heard somewhere that you should stop yapping about Presidents that haven't been news in over 9 years.

Um, excuse me all to hell, but I was responding to YOUR statement that you "liked Iran-Contra" and made the mistake of suggesting we supplied both Iran and Iraq with weapons. Pay attention. You brought it up, not me.

 

[Modbert]

As I have said several times in other thread's, BP is responsible for the spill - but Obama is responsible for the federal response. When something of this scale happens, it is in the country's best interests for to deploy resources to contain the damage as much as possible.

More here:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...hat-should-obama-have-done-3.html#post2371328

You make me laugh. If Obama had taken over the response from BP, you would of cried that there goes that socialist once again. Such hypocrisy and fauxoutrage.

 

[MaggieMae]

Fauxoutrage

–noun
1.
an accusation often used by progressives to deflect attention away from valid criticism and objective observations regarding their party leaders.

People all over the country remain worried about the economic turmoil, so the blame-the-oil-spill-on-Obama is an opportunity to unfairly pile more on. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the lack of ability these days by people like you who can't seem to separate truth from fiction, the oil spill being the latest endeavor in what you *hope* will be the demise of Obama's presidency by expecting yet another miracle from him, this time to plug the hole and immediately order God to make everything rosy again. Here's why THINKING PEOPLE are outraged over the criticism, explained well by one of those THINKING PEOPLE with a wider audience than mine.

Morning Joe

 

[Coyote]

is that what we call faux outrage these days??? critiquing?

Faux outrage? I call it just making note of the fact that he is failing in part of his job performance. As I said earlier, it's about 15% of his grade. He is the head of state in the American system of government and it is his job to perform those duties. To the extent he fails to do it, he gets an "F" on that job. To the extent he keeps doing it, his entire grade for that portion of his job may drop into the "F" range. He's done a very poor job of it so far, but it's early yet, he could improve.

It's not faux outrage to expect the President to do his job and comment on it when he doesn't.

It IS faux outrage when you set a different standard of performance for this president than for his predecessors.

I searched the messageboards for suitable expressions of outrage on June 6, 2008 but alas, the boards were silent following the President's failure to mention or commemorate D-Day.

 

[Tech_Esq]

is that what we call faux outrage these days??? critiquing?

Faux outrage? I call it just making note of the fact that he is failing in part of his job performance. As I said earlier, it's about 15% of his grade. He is the head of state in the American system of government and it is his job to perform those duties. To the extent he fails to do it, he gets an "F" on that job. To the extent he keeps doing it, his entire grade for that portion of his job may drop into the "F" range. He's done a very poor job of it so far, but it's early yet, he could improve.

It's not faux outrage to expect the President to do his job and comment on it when he doesn't.

It IS faux outrage when you set a different standard of performance for this president than for his predecessors.

I searched the messageboards for suitable expressions of outrage on June 6, 2008 but alas, the boards were silent following the President's failure to mention or commemorate D-Day.

So you are saying that except for this one occasion, Obama has performed this part of his job just as well as Bush did?

If you are, you're wrong. Bush didn't do a lot of his job right, but that was one part he did pretty damned consistently well. When you do it right all the time, you can miss the fairly minor stuff once in a while. Like I said earlier, Obama didn't need to do a full on dog and pony show for this. It's an off year remembrance. He needed to say at least a paragraph about how we should pause on this day and remember the sacrifice. 2 minutes tops.

That would have been enough, but nothing is just too little. It really is indefensible that he doesn't do this part of his job better. But, I think it may turn out to be part and parcel of what we are seeing in other areas of his administration. He lacks leadership ability. He's not comfortable being "the guy." But, like I said before, it's early, this could change.

 

[Coyote]

Fauxoutrage

–noun
1.
an accusation often used by progressives to deflect attention away from valid criticism and objective observations regarding their party leaders.

Fauxoutrage
-noun
1. a condition increasingly commonly seen in partisan wingnuts who spend way too much time on internet messageboards. Identifying characteristics include visual impairment from concentrating on inconsequential minutia, aural hallucinations whereby they are unable to hear criticism on their own side, and cognitive disfunction characterized by unpredictable paroxisms of red-faced incoherence and massive amounts of spittle on the monitor and jammed keys from furious keyboard pounding.

 

[G.T.]

I think that if you honestly care about this, you need to enlist in the Big Brother or Big Sister program at your local boys & girls club and get yourself a role model.

 

[Coyote]

Faux outrage? I call it just making note of the fact that he is failing in part of his job performance. As I said earlier, it's about 15% of his grade. He is the head of state in the American system of government and it is his job to perform those duties. To the extent he fails to do it, he gets an "F" on that job. To the extent he keeps doing it, his entire grade for that portion of his job may drop into the "F" range. He's done a very poor job of it so far, but it's early yet, he could improve.

It's not faux outrage to expect the President to do his job and comment on it when he doesn't.

It IS faux outrage when you set a different standard of performance for this president than for his predecessors.

I searched the messageboards for suitable expressions of outrage on June 6, 2008 but alas, the boards were silent following the President's failure to mention or commemorate D-Day.

So you are saying that except for this one occasion, Obama has performed this part of his job just as well as Bush did?

Yup.

If you are, you're wrong. Bush didn't do a lot of his job right, but that was one part he did pretty damned consistently well. When you do it right all the time, you can miss the fairly minor stuff once in a while. Like I said earlier, Obama didn't need to do a full on dog and pony show for this. It's an off year remembrance. He needed to say at least a paragraph about how we should pause on this day and remember the sacrifice. 2 minutes tops.

You ought to check the facts first.

Bushes first two June 6th's in office:

June 6, 2001
President Bush Speaks at Dedication of National D-Day Memorial
Memorandum for the Secretary of Transportation
President Bush Announces Two People to Serve in His Administration
Statement by the President
Press Briefing by National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice on President's Travel to Europe
Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13125
President George W. Bush addresses the nation from the White House on his intention to create a cabinet level position for Office of Homeland Security on Thursday June 6,

June 6, 2002
Remarks by the President in Address to the Nation
Fact sheet In Focus: Homeland Security
President to Propose Department of Homeland Security
President Bush Discusses India-Pakistan with President Putin
Executive Order Amendment to Executive Order 13180, Air Traffic Performance-Based Organization
Nominations

Note: no mention of D-Day, no commemeration - no 2 minutes tops.


Now, care to compare that with Obama's first (and so far only) two June 6th's in office?

You may find some similarities.

That would have been enough, but nothing is just too little. It really is indefensible that he doesn't do this part of his job better. But, I think it may turn out to be part and parcel of what we are seeing in other areas of his administration. He lacks leadership ability. He's not comfortable being "the guy." But, like I said before, it's early, this could change.

If it's indefensible then, is it asking to much to spread the "outrage" a tad more evenly?

 

[JScott]

A lot of these threads recently are heading into the shallow end of the pool.

 

[Coyote]

A lot of these threads recently are heading into the shallow end of the pool.

I think they started there....

 

[hortysir]

A lot of these threads recently are heading into the shallow end of the pool.

To match the posters' position in the gene pool?

 

[boedicca]

Fauxoutrage

–noun
1.
an accusation often used by progressives to deflect attention away from valid criticism and objective observations regarding their party leaders.

People all over the country remain worried about the economic turmoil, so the blame-the-oil-spill-on-Obama is an opportunity to unfairly pile more on. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the lack of ability these days by people like you who can't seem to separate truth from fiction, the oil spill being the latest endeavor in what you *hope* will be the demise of Obama's presidency by expecting yet another miracle from him, this time to plug the hole and immediately order God to make everything rosy again. Here's why THINKING PEOPLE are outraged over the criticism, explained well by one of those THINKING PEOPLE with a wider audience than mine.

Morning Joe

And you know what? We have an abundance of threads about the economy, the oil spill, the financial reform bill, obamacare, unemployment etc. - and in virtually everyone, those of us who are critical of Obama's policies are called racists, haters, and other such derogatory terms.

The Truth Is, Obama is an incompetent who is not qualified to be president.