Obama now wants to force military on Obamacare

[Warrior102]

Congress is cutting many items from our VA, not Obama

Wrong. The Obama admin is proposing the cuts - Congress can either approve/disapprove his proposal.

Are you seriously this ******* dense?

 

[Katzndogz]

Wasn't he the one dressed as a ninja?

Naw..he was the one they call, "Commander-in-Chief".

Check your Constitution out. It's a doozy.

Apparently this is supposed to sideline the OBVIOUS which is the Military Hater in Chief is now cutting the healthcare of those brave souls that risked their lives to GET Bin Ladin while Obama spent years railing against the Bush policies that really did the job.

As commander in chief, obama has the power of dictator over the military. He can completely take away any benefits if he so chooses. Using his absolute power he has denied medical care to the battle wounded leaving them to die.

This is just a taste of what he would do to all of us.

 

[Sallow]

Naw..he was the one they call, "Commander-in-Chief".

Check your Constitution out. It's a doozy.

Apparently this is supposed to sideline the OBVIOUS which is the Military Hater in Chief is now cutting the healthcare of those brave souls that risked their lives to GET Bin Ladin while Obama spent years railing against the Bush policies that really did the job.

As commander in chief, obama has the power of dictator over the military. He can completely take away any benefits if he so chooses. Using his absolute power he has denied medical care to the battle wounded leaving them to die.

This is just a taste of what he would do to all of us.

Yeah? Prove that shit.

I can prove that Conservative politicians have really cut funding that caused two formerly live people to die.

Governor Jan Brewer.

Medicaid Cuts Killing Ariz. Transplant Patients - CBS News

 

[RDD_1210]

What exactly are you upset about? Please explain.

Because if what you are saying is true, (which I have serious doubts about), are you upset that people are being moved off of government healthcare and on to private healthcare?

Isn't that what happens in your ideal fantasy world, private business over government reliance?

 

[Seawytch]

Congress is cutting many items from our VA, not Obama

Wrong. The Obama admin is proposing the cuts - Congress can either approve/disapprove his proposal.

Are you seriously this ******* dense?

Again for the reading impaired...

Expansions to benefits

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

It provides new benefits for veterans’ caregivers, including health care and mental health services, and invests nearly $1 billion in VA services for homeless veterans and those at risk of becoming homeless.

The White House pointed us to several examples of how VA services have been beefed up, summed up in a comment Obama made in 2009:

"We dramatically increased funding for veterans' health care: more care for women's veterans, for our wounded warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injuries," Obama said at a 2009 signing of a bill that funds veterans’ medical care a year in advance.

Separately, PolitiFact has given Obama seven Promise Kept ratings on pledges he made to improve services to veterans, compared with zero Promise Brokens.

Proposed cuts

Santorum’s campaign did not respond to our email about his statement, but he may have been referring to Obama's deficit reduction plan, which increases fees for some programs.

In September 2011, Obama submitted his outline for how to pay for his American Jobs Act. It was intended to serve as a guide to the joint committee tasked with finding savings in the federal budget.

In that plan, Obama proposed three possible "reforms" or increases in fees in military programs:

* A new $200 annual fee for TRICARE for Life recipients. Open to veterans 65 and older, TRICARE for Life pays out-of-pocket expenses not covered by Medicare. This proposed fee is estimated to save approximately $6.7 billion over 10 years, according to the plan.

* Increases in pharmacy co-pays. The plan says "co-payments for military members have lagged behind other federal and private plans. For example, the average co-payment for a costly brand-name drug purchased at a drug store by a federal retiree in the most popular medical plan option is estimated to be $45, compared to $9 for a military retiree."

* Review and reform military retirement benefits. The current system, the plan states, "provides generous benefits to the relatively few members who stay for at least 20 years and no benefits for the roughly 80 percent of service members who stay less than 20 years. To consider reforms the Administration plans to set up a commission to develop recommendations for reforming the current military retirement system." We should add that the president suggests grandfathering in those now serving so that major reforms don’t affect them.​

Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama wants to cut veterans’ benefits

 

[Moonglow]

they are not classes you ******* tampon. they are young men and women doing would you are not willing to do and in return their contract says that they and their families get health care. now you want to re nig on that contract?

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

you want the contract asshole go look it up. I was raised military and we got health care.

I had two contracts during my military career, now show me the contract where it stipulates free healthcare. Or be a shallow name calling person and denegrate yourself with your own baseness

 

[Moonglow]

Congress is cutting many items from our VA, not Obama

Wrong. The Obama admin is proposing the cuts - Congress can either approve/disapprove his proposal.

Are you seriously this ******* dense?

not nearly as dense as you seem to be when you speak in a manner as such.

 

[Sallow]

What exactly are you upset about? Please explain.

Because if what you are saying is true, (which I have serious doubts about), are you upset that people are being moved off of government healthcare and on to private healthcare?

Isn't that what happens in your ideal fantasy world, private business over government reliance?

Because when a conservative talks about cutting government the military isn't part of that.

The only part of government they want to "cut" is the part that helps someone other then themselves.

Michelle Bachmann is a shining example of that. She took all sorts of subsidies for her family business while yammering about "government spending".

It's the "All for me..none for thee" playbook.

 

[Moonglow]

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

You are so full of ******* horseshit. The years I served, under Reagan, were the best I ever served. We got anything we asked for, vs. the failed Carter and Clinton years. They gutted our military and cut $$$, just like the current Asswipe In Chief is doing.

And it is in the contract - look it up yourself

Better yet - see a recruiter and enlist.

We need the cannon fodder.

You seem to be the worthless human fecal matter that needs to be killed, I've already served.

 

[Moonglow]

now we see where the fake hysteria is coming from

Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama wants to cut veterans’ benefits

PolitiFact | Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama wants to cut veterans

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

read an weep Santorum butt suck fest participants

 

[Moonglow]

A “benefit” under an enlistment contract refers to an entitlement that is offered to all enlistees which includes the GI Bill, military medical, and amount of base pay.16 These are standardized terms which are not on the table for negotiation and they are actually not included in the enlistment contract.

You people talk alot of shit, but barely have the ability to ever back up your unfounded opnions. Which makes you look ignorant.
fair contracts.org | what have you agreed to today?
read and weep, Know-it-not-alls

 

[uscitizen]

Read more: Pres. Obama to Cut Health Care for Troops - President Obama - Fox Nation​

Remember when liberals claimed Bush cut benefits for Veterans? Let's see if they even raise an eyelash over this. REAL cuts to our military, and all designed to force the military to be dependent on Obamacare.​

Nooooooooooo, Obama isn't a socialist. Nooooooooooooo, of course not.​

Time to send this out of control dictator back to Chicago. November 2012 is coming!​

Statists loathe the military, they always have. They fool no one.

Oh liberals will love this one. They hate the military.

What gets me is, the same liberals who railed against Bush supposedly cutting veterans benefits will turn a blind eye to this.

They only rail against ANYTHING when they think it's advantages them politically.

umm I derided Bush attempting to cut military benefits because he claimed to support the troops so well.
That old hypocrisy thing.

And yes I do not like the military because I was drafted into Nam. I was not the son of a congressman so I could not get into the national guard or decline going to nam.

 

[uscitizen]

The constitution says nothing about medical care for life for veterans.

 

[Sallow]

Statists loathe the military, they always have. They fool no one.

Oh liberals will love this one. They hate the military.

What gets me is, the same liberals who railed against Bush supposedly cutting veterans benefits will turn a blind eye to this.

They only rail against ANYTHING when they think it's advantages them politically.

umm I derided Bush attempting to cut military benefits because he claimed to support the troops so well.
That old hypocrisy thing.

And yes I do not like the military because I was drafted into Nam. I was not the son of a congressman so I could not get into the national guard or decline going to nam.

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[Cammmpbell]

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.


The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.


The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the Pentagon’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.


Many in Congress are opposing the proposed changes, which would require the passage of new legislation before being put in place.


“We shouldn’t ask our military to pay our bills when we aren’t willing to impose a similar hardship on the rest of the population,” Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and a Republican from California, said in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon. “We can’t keep asking those who have given so much to give that much more.”

Read more: Pres. Obama to Cut Health Care for Troops - President Obama - Fox Nation

Remember when liberals claimed Bush cut benefits for Veterans? Let's see if they even raise an eyelash over this. REAL cuts to our military, and all designed to force the military to be dependent on Obamacare.

Nooooooooooo, Obama isn't a socialist. Nooooooooooooo, of course not.

Time to send this out of control dictator back to Chicago. November 2012 is coming!
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You people make me want to throw up

The United States of America is the only industriali ed country in the world where more than 500 companies make profits off of sick people and you want to keep it that way. Even after all that we rank 37th in the world when general health and longevity is studied. Please get your heads out of the center of your buttocks.

 

[naturegirl]

The constitution says nothing about medical care for life for veterans.

It also says nothing about medical care for life for previous Presidents or previous Congressmen. I really think we need to cut that out, too.

 

[Sallow]

You people make me want to throw up

The United States of America is the only industriali ed country in the world where more than 500 companies make profits off of sick people and you want to keep it that way. Even after all that we rank 37th in the world when general health and longevity is studied. Please get your heads out of the center of your buttocks.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4]"We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp - YouTube[/ame]

 

[WillowTree]

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

you want the contract asshole go look it up. I was raised military and we got health care.

I had two contracts during my military career, now show me the contract where it stipulates free healthcare. Or be a shallow name calling person and denegrate yourself with your own baseness

How long have they been charging GI's for their healthcare? Can you tell me?

 

[WillowTree]

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

you want the contract asshole go look it up. I was raised military and we got health care.

I had two contracts during my military career, now show me the contract where it stipulates free healthcare. Or be a shallow name calling person and denegrate yourself with your own baseness

What the Recruiter Never Told You -- Part 12, Military Medical Care








here tampon read this,, and an oral promise is a contract. so go suck some cowshit through a straw.

 

[uscitizen]

The constitution says nothing about medical care for life for veterans.

It also says nothing about medical care for life for previous Presidents or previous Congressmen. I really think we need to cut that out, too.

yep.
Some talk of running the govt like a business and that would mean reducing congress's benefits as long as they are not running a profit.
Some firings as well.