Obama conspires with China to cripple U.S. energy?

[The Irish Ram]

So you claim Obama is not a tyrant then turn right around and claim he can enact laws and legislation with EO. You are beyond stupid.

like I SAID IN REALITY....
THE FOLKS SHOW CASING STUPIDTY HERE ARE YOU .

Without the Senate the treaty does not become law, without an act of both houses in Congress the stipulated green house levels can not be enforced on American business.

agree, except that it isn't a treaty, it's a deal the President signed. It's pretty much the equivalent of an Executive Order in the foreign policy arena. No where will you see the word "treaty" in the agreement.

Wrong as usual any action that the President takes with a foreign Government that requires something from the US is a treaty.

normally yes, but not in this case. The President was very careful about not using the word "treaty". He consistently used the term "deal". This is semantics, but it is way for him to force the hand of the incoming Congress. Regardless of its enforcement capability, he just called the bluff on the GOP.

The Angry GOP Backlash to Obama s Historic Climate Accord - The Atlantic

He called America's bluff and America responded. But when you look at the number of immediate, intense issues we face now, and the fact that the response we sent was to counter our own President's actions, our biggest hurdle is going to be stopping Obama from doing any more damage, while fixing the damage that has been done, and dealing with foreign wars, while rebuilding this country's wealth, and that is a tall order for a few elected politicians.
We were strong enough as a people to send a message and make a change happen. We need to retain that status. We have to stop playing politics. We have to lay down the swords that defend party lines, and unite as Americans not willing to accept the direction we are being taken. Thank God for a Constitution that is all about us. Insist on knowing what Washington is doing.

 

[daws101]

like I SAID IN REALITY....
THE FOLKS SHOW CASING STUPIDTY HERE ARE YOU .

Without the Senate the treaty does not become law, without an act of both houses in Congress the stipulated green house levels can not be enforced on American business.

agree, except that it isn't a treaty, it's a deal the President signed. It's pretty much the equivalent of an Executive Order in the foreign policy arena. No where will you see the word "treaty" in the agreement.

Wrong as usual any action that the President takes with a foreign Government that requires something from the US is a treaty.

normally yes, but not in this case. The President was very careful about not using the word "treaty". He consistently used the term "deal". This is semantics, but it is way for him to force the hand of the incoming Congress. Regardless of its enforcement capability, he just called the bluff on the GOP.

The Angry GOP Backlash to Obama s Historic Climate Accord - The Atlantic

He called America's bluff and America responded. But when you look at the number of immediate, intense issues we face now, and the fact that the response we sent was to counter our own President's actions, our biggest hurdle is going to be stopping Obama from doing any more damage, while fixing the damage that has been done, and dealing with foreign wars, while rebuilding this country's wealth, and that is a tall order for a few elected politicians.
We were strong enough as a people to send a message and make a change happen. We need to retain that status. We have to stop playing politics. We have to lay down the swords that defend party lines, and unite as Americans not willing to accept the direction we are being taken. Thank God for a Constitution that is all about us. Insist on knowing what Washington is doing.

odd most of "the damage" has been done by congress.
who shut down the government? not the pres
who spent millions of dollars trying and failing to kill the ACA? not the pres
who spent more millions of dollars on the witch hunt named Benghazi? not the pres
who is the party who took a oath to block ,hinder, obstruct and generally fuck with the pres ?

 

[BullKurtz]

The Kenyan doesn't have the authority to do a treaty without Senate approval and his EPA is about to get a radical spending cut so they can't enforce anything. This joke will end up in the same dumpster as Kyoto.

 

[daws101]

The Kenyan doesn't have the authority to do a treaty without Senate approval and his EPA is about to get a radical spending cut so they can't enforce anything. This joke will end up in the same dumpster as Kyoto.

since the pres isn't Kenyan your statement is irrelevant.
could get a spending cut but then there's always veto....

 

[The Irish Ram]

Being a constitutional scholar, I'm sure Obama knows more than you do about that.

PJ who better to dismantle the constitution than an expert in the field.
Everything he does chips away at it. You are assuming he plays by the rules and is therefore tethered or tempered by the Constitution. He does not. He passes bills we aren't allowed to read. He makes back room deals we never even hear about, with leaders that have America's worst interest at heart. The IRS is now the SS. The EPA is a monstrosity. Bush's Homeland security wiped out privacy in one fell swoop. We treat our military like shit. We have medical rationing boards now. We assume our own government tells us the truth. The Gov. relies on us buying what they say. The fundamental change Obama promised is to our rights and freedoms laid down in the fundamental laws that govern us. The ones that give us the power to govern ourselves in the absence of a King. Obama is pro King.

 

[DriftingSand]

I think it's just a tiny bit hypocritical for a president who chain-smokes, to be proselytizing over issues like carcinogens in the air we all breath.

Not only that but all of that hot air he spews while lying to the American public on national television.

One thing's for sure ... never trust any "negotiations" that take place under the cover of darkness especially when two Communists are doing the conspiring. We can expect something bad from this.

 

[BullKurtz]

since the pres isn't Kenyan your statement is irrelevant.
could get a spending cut but then there's always veto....

There hasn't been a line-item veto in 20 years your fucking ninny!

 

[daws101]

since the pres isn't Kenyan your statement is irrelevant.
could get a spending cut but then there's always veto....

There hasn't been a line-item veto in 20 years your fucking ninny!

again and?