obama birth certificate: yes or no

[Faun]

When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question.
President Obama s Long Form Birth Certificate The White House

We've posted the certification that is given by the state of Hawaii on the Internet for everybody to see. People have provided affidavits that they, in fact, have seen this birth certificate. And yet this thing just keeps on going.
Remarks by the President whitehouse.gov

• Claims #10 and 11, birth certificates. The claim that Obama’s birth certificate is “sealed” is pure nonsense. Copies of both the so-called “short” and “long” certificates have been released, and state officials in Hawaii have said repeatedly that Obama was born there in 1961 and is a “natural born American citizen.”
• Obama s Sealed Records

"We've had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii August 4th, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital. We've posted the certification that is given by the state of Hawaii on the Internet for everybody to see. People have provided affidavits that they, in fact, have seen this birth certificate. And yet this thing just keeps on going.
Obama releases birth certificate PolitiFact

Not if they were born in another country like Obama, then they get one like this, with the birthplace at the bottom:

Too bad for your delusions, line 23 is blank on Obama's actual birth certificate.

Obama's actual birth certificate, we'll use that term loosely..

i'm glad they finally agreed on which hospital.

There was never any disagreement. He has a half sister who didn't know what hospital he was born in and named the wrong one when asked. No big deal really except to birthers who cling to anything they can. I can't even tell you the name of the hospital my siblings, or my parents, were born in.

 

[g5000]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

Yes you are.

You have seen actual evidence that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
You have not seen any evidence that Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii.

By 'evidence' I mean anything where the originals could be presented in court as actual evidence- as opposed to speculation or innuendo.

Of course that means you believe the speculation and innuendo- not the evidence.

LOADS of evidence here to prove you 100% wrong:
Obama Eligibility

Christ, I debunked that bullshit years ago.

 

[washamericom]

there is a lot of disagreement... maybe cause snopes and the obama campaign site got them mixed up.

then there is that letter, and dr. corsi getting pitched...

i'd like to see a copy of the newspaper with the announcements.

baskin robbins... a picture of neil walking with grandpa and little b.

and who wouldn't want to have a peek into that vault. don't know if geraldo is available for that... wouldn't be any more controversy though.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

there you go again,somehow a foreigner running our country is far more important to you than our government institutions murdering 3000 of its own citizens.

 

[FA_Q2]

there you go again,somehow a foreigner running our country is far more important to you than our government institutions murdering 3000 of its own citizens.

Oh look - a left wing moon bat conspiracy theorist arguing with a right wing moon bat conspiracy theorist. How very ironic.

 

[Syriusly]

does one exist ?? or does it just exist in the digital world...

we as a country will eventually need to know..

Obama Jokes About Birth Certificate During Kenya Visit

Personally, I'd like to see his college transcripts. You know. The ones he won't release.

That would tell everyone exactly where he came from. Who paid for college and why.

I've never been a birther but the fact he won't release those transcripts makes people wonder why the hell doesn't release them.

Is there something in them that he doesn't want anyone to see??

I suspect that he may have lied about being a Kenyan, possibly to receive aid as a foreign student.

Another example of how Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Instead of facts.

 

[Syriusly]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100.

LOL....World Nut Daily? Where they promote miracle cures and gold sales? WND is a blog pretending to be a news organization. It is entirely opinion based and has no credibility with any rational person.

 

[Syriusly]

Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884)
“The distinction between citizenship by birth and citizenship by naturalization is clearly marked in the provisions of the constitution, by which ‘no person, except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president;’ and ‘the congress shall have power to establish an uniform rule of naturalization.’ Const. art. 2, 1; art. 1, 8. By the thirteenth amendment of the constitution slavery was prohibited. The main object of the opening sentence of the fourteenth amendment was to settle the question, upon which there had been a difference of opinion throughout the country and in this court, as to the citizenship of free negroes, Scott v. Sandford, 19 How. 393 and to put it beyond doubt that all persons, white or black, and whether formerly slaves or not, born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside. Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 73; Strauder v. West Virginia 100 U.S. 303 , 306

This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”
.

This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’

Elk recognized only two kinds of citizenship Natural born and Naturalized.

Since people born in the United States are not naturalized citizens- they are natural born citizens.
As Elk points out.

Elk CLEARLY states:
"all persons, white or black, and whether formerly slaves or not, born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens of the United States"

OWING NO ALLEGIANCE TO ANY ALIEN POWER. Everyone knows Obama was born a British Subject, so he was not eligible for citizenship!
)

Elk is an interesting case- regarding whether an Indian born within the United States- and owing allegiance to his sovereign tribe was born a citizen

Elk also clearly states:

Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of and owing immediate allegiance to one of the Indiana tribes (an alien though dependent power), although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more "born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," within the meaning of the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment,
than the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government,
or the children born within the United States of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations.

Note the distinctions there
Children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government
Obama was not born within the domain of any other government

Note again the distinction here:
or the children born within the United States of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations.

Obama was not born to a foreign diplomat

What is not mentioned by the courts is what you claim- that a person born with citizenship in another country is not a citizen.

Matter of fact- Elk doesn't care about the citizenship of the person's parents at all.

"The Slaughterhouse cases follows Elk and it states:
"The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States."

"Matter of fact- Elk doesn't care about the citizenship of the person's parents at all."

YES, IT 100% DOES, when it says:
"By the thirteenth amendment of the constitution slavery was prohibited. The main object of the opening sentence of the fourteenth amendment was to settle the question, upon which there had been a difference of opinion throughout the country and in this court, as to the citizenship of free negroes, Scott v. Sandford, 19 How. 393 and to put it beyond doubt that all persons, white or black, and whether formerly slaves or not, born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside. Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 73; Strauder v. West Virginia 100 U.S. 303 , 306"

Maybe you missed where it said: "all persons, white or black, and whether formerly slaves or not, born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens"

The ONLY way you can owe no allegiance to an alien power is to not a foreign parent to create that divided allegiance!

And Wong Kim Ark settled that question- you do realize that Wong Kim Ark supercedes Slaughterhouse- right?

As the Court recognized in Wong Kim Ark- reference to the statement from Slaughterhouse:
United States v. Wong Kim Ark US Law LII Legal Information Institute

Mr. Justice Miller, indeed, while discussing the causes which led to the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, made this remark:


The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.


16 Wall. 73.

This was wholly aside from the question in judgment and from the course of reasoning bearing upon that question. It was unsupported by any argument, or by any reference to authorities, and that it was not formulated with the same care and exactness as if the case before the court had called for an exact definition of the phrase is apparent from its classing foreign ministers and consuls together -- whereas it was then well settled law, as has since been recognized in a judgment of this court in which Mr. Justice Miller concurred, that consuls, as such, and unless expressly invested with a diplomatic character in addition to their ordinary powers, are not considered as entrusted with authority to represent their sovereign in his intercourse [p679] with foreign States or to vindicate his prerogatives, or entitled by the law of nations to the privileges and immunities of ambassadors or public ministers, but are subject to the jurisdiction, civil and criminal, of the courts of the country in which they reside. 1 Kent Com. 44; Story Conflict of Laws § 48; Wheaton International Law (8th ed.) § 249; The Anne (1818), 3 Wheat. 435, 445, 446; Gittings v. Crawford (1838), Taney 1, 10; In re Baiz (1890), 135 U.S. 403, 424.

That neither Mr. Justice Miller nor any of the justices who took part in the decision of The Slaughterhouse Cases understood the court to be committed to the view that all children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of foreign States were excluded from the operation of the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment is manifest from a unanimous judgment of the Court, delivered but two years later, while all those judges but Chief Justice Chase were still on the bench, in which

Chief Justice Waite said: "Allegiance and protection are, in this connection" (that is, in relation to citizenship),
reciprocal obligations.
The one is a compensation for the other: allegiance for protection, and protection for allegiance. . . . At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of [p680] parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class, there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

And then the court in Wong Kim Ark said that a person born in the United States of parents with foreign citizenship is born a United States citizen

The fact, therefore, that acts of Congress or treaties have not permitted Chinese persons born out of this country to become citizens by naturalization, cannot exclude Chinese persons born in this country from the operation of the broad and clear words of the Constitution, "All persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."


VII. Upon the facts agreed in this case, the American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth. No doubt he might himself, after coming of age, renounce this citizenship and become a citizen of the country of his parents, or of any other country; for, by our law, as solemnly declared by Congress, "the right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people," and


any declaration, instruction, opinion, order or direction of any officer of the United States which denies, restricts, impairs or questions the right of expatriation, is declared inconsistent with the fundamental principles of the Republic.


Rev.Stat. § 1999, reenacting act of July 7, 1868, c. 249, § 1; 15 Stat. 223, 224. Whether any act of himself or of his parents during his minority could have the same effect is at least doubtful. But it would be out of place to pursue that inquiry, inasmuch as it is expressly agreed that his residence has always been in the United States, and not elsewhere; that each of his temporary visits to China, the one for some months when he was about seventeen years old, and the other for something like a year about the time of his coming of age, was made with the intention of returning, and was followed by his actual return, to the United States, and


that said Wong Kim Ark has not, either by himself or his parents acting [p705] for him, ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, and that he has never done or committed any act or thing to exclude him therefrom.


The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.

Every subsequent decision has cited Wong Kim Ark.

 

[Syriusly]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

sorry, guy, I strongly beg to differ.

If you want to include internet news sites then there are hundreds of articles which take the time to investigate, sight all of the incongruities and faults with that which you are so sure is the truth.

No, your president is a phony and a liar. He was never born in Hawaii. I have read more than enough, but I have no zeal to make my case once again.

You could start with this inexplicable. A tale of two birth certificates

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100. This particular link lists over a hundred articles on the subject. I do not expect positive results in changing your mind, unfortunately.
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve

I will make the case for you, IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE: Obama Eligibility

Oh but its all right here:

Obama Conspiracy Theories - Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud since 2008

The internet site that is kryptonite to Birthers.

 

[Syriusly]

Not to mention all the Articles that called Obama Kenyan-born...could they ALL be wrong, I DOUBT IT!

ORIGINAL WEBPAGE

 

[Syriusly]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

sorry, guy, I strongly beg to differ.

If you want to include internet news sites then there are hundreds of articles which take the time to investigate, sight all of the incongruities and faults with that which you are so sure is the truth.

No, your president is a phony and a liar. He was never born in Hawaii. I have read more than enough, but I have no zeal to make my case once again.

You could start with this inexplicable. A tale of two birth certificates

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100. This particular link lists over a hundred articles on the subject. I do not expect positive results in changing your mind, unfortunately.
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve

You can differ all you want -- no one has been able to prove Obama was born in Kenya and no one has been able to prove his Hawaiian birth record is anything less than authentic.

Sorry but...
No one can prove that he was born in Hawaii. There is much more evidence that proves he was born in Kenya then Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii, why did he have to forge a birth certificate!

No one can prove to you that Obama was born in Hawaii- but you are a Birther- therefore an idiot- and won't believe anything that is not fed to you by WND or convicted con men.

But for rational persons- we rely upon facts- from reliable sources
Vital Records

Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth

The index data regarding President Obama is:

Birth Index
Obama II, Barack Hussein
Male

I rely upon the actual people in charge of maintaining official records- you rely upon convicted con men- such as this gem you refer to in your post:

 

[Syriusly]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

sorry, guy, I strongly beg to differ.

If you want to include internet news sites then there are hundreds of articles which take the time to investigate, sight all of the incongruities and faults with that which you are so sure is the truth.

No, your president is a phony and a liar. He was never born in Hawaii. I have read more than enough, but I have no zeal to make my case once again.

You could start with this inexplicable. A tale of two birth certificates

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100. This particular link lists over a hundred articles on the subject. I do not expect positive results in changing your mind, unfortunately.
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve

You can differ all you want -- no one has been able to prove Obama was born in Kenya and no one has been able to prove his Hawaiian birth record is anything less than authentic.

Sorry but...
No one can prove that he was born in Hawaii. There is much more evidence that proves he was born in Kenya then Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii, why did he have to forge a birth certificate?

Here's the Sheriff's kit with all the proof that the birth certificate is a computer generated forgery: Dropbox - SHERIFF S KIT

Here is the REAL Hawaiian birth certificate NOTICE THE BOTTOM LINE that says Birthplace: Kenya Per Grandmother. This is possibly the one that Obama forged his from!

Here is the real Kenyan Birth Certificate:

Here is the video of Lucas Smith in Kenya getting the birth certificate that has the raised seal and Hospital stamp (Lucas has never been charged with a forged document)

Lucas Smith- the noted convicted con-man? The one who has never actually shown the supposed original to anyone- and has never actually shown he went to Kenya?

 

[Syriusly]

Birthers do love them their Youtube.....

Meanwhile back to real sources
Vital Records Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said.
“
I have seen the original records filed at the
Department of Health and a
ttest to the authenticity of the certified copies the
department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in
Hawai„i.

Photo of certified copy of original birth certificate taken by Savannah Guthrie

That's the forgery! And even if it WERE real, Obama is still not a natural born citizen EVEN if he was born here. TOO BAD!

Not a forgery- and Too Bad- no one cares about your nutty theories.

Not the voters.
Not the Electoral College
Not Congress
Not Chief Justice Roberts
Not any judge who has looked at the issue.

7 years of Presidency - and one 1 year to go- Birthers still stomping their feet and threatening to hold their breath.

 

[Syriusly]

Doesn't matter any more. He served almost 8 years so whats the purpose either way?

Because when he's proven ineligible, anything with his name on it, including Supreme Court appointments & Obamacare, are all NULL & VOID. They won't even have to be repealed, then will just be void, as if it never happened, while Obama is put behind bars!

Won't happen. Put your passion towards the future on positive things, not fist waving at shit 8 years old.

LOLOL fist waving. Perhaps you don't CARE that we have an illegal President, BUT I DO and so do millions of others!!

By definition we don't have an illegal President- he was legally elected by the Electoral College and confirmed by the U.S. Congress- twice.

No one who matters believes your nutty theories.

 

[Syriusly]

does one exist ?? or does it just exist in the digital world...

we as a country will eventually need to know..

Obama Jokes About Birth Certificate During Kenya Visit

Who cares. He's the Pres. Live with it.

NO, he's the Usurper. He's not eligible to be Pres! Wake up and do some research!

And what exactly do you think you can do about it?

Well considering I've taken my case all the way to the Supreme Court and they denied it. Justice Thomas admitted they were evading the issue in this video (and they all laugh hahaha):


I've been to Congress about a dozen times to drop of my evidence and have hit at least 200 offices. I personally handed my evidence to Trey Gowdy & Jason Chaffetz, so they have it. Not sure why they do nothing!

Because they all think you are a nut- and they are all laughing at you like the Supreme Court did.

They do nothing because no one agrees with your nutty theories or your nutty cause.

You think you know more than the voters, and Congress and the Supreme Court- and that is pretty much guaranteed to be delusional.

 

[Faun]

Yes, it exists. He was born in Hawaii.

But that will never, never, never matter to the birfers. Ever. You could put them in a time machine and take them back to the Kapiʻolani Medical Center on August 4, 1961 and shove their faces down into Ann Dunham's crotch as Barack emerges, and they will swear on a stack of Bibles they are in Kenya.

Even though Ann Dunham never visited Kenya. Not before, during, or after Barack Obama's birth.

We're talking about some seriously hardcore willful delusion here.

So fuck 'em. Wipe your ass with a book publisher's circular and call it a day.

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

sorry, guy, I strongly beg to differ.

If you want to include internet news sites then there are hundreds of articles which take the time to investigate, sight all of the incongruities and faults with that which you are so sure is the truth.

No, your president is a phony and a liar. He was never born in Hawaii. I have read more than enough, but I have no zeal to make my case once again.

You could start with this inexplicable. A tale of two birth certificates

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100. This particular link lists over a hundred articles on the subject. I do not expect positive results in changing your mind, unfortunately.
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve

You can differ all you want -- no one has been able to prove Obama was born in Kenya and no one has been able to prove his Hawaiian birth record is anything less than authentic.

Sorry but...
No one can prove that he was born in Hawaii. There is much more evidence that proves he was born in Kenya then Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii, why did he have to forge a birth certificate?

Here's the Sheriff's kit with all the proof that the birth certificate is a computer generated forgery: Dropbox - SHERIFF S KIT

Here is the REAL Hawaiian birth certificate NOTICE THE BOTTOM LINE that says Birthplace: Kenya Per Grandmother. This is possibly the one that Obama forged his from!

Here is the real Kenyan Birth Certificate:

Here is the video of Lucas Smith in Kenya getting the birth certificate that has the raised seal and Hospital stamp (Lucas has never been charged with a forged document)


The Kenyan Ambassador to the US clearly stated that Obama's birthplace in Mombasa is a "Well known attraction"


Here is the Kenyan Parliament records where they claim Obama is a "son of the soil of that country" and that he is "not a native American"


Here is Michelle Obama claiming that Kenya is Obama's Home Country:


Obama's own Grandmother from Kenya claimed she was "PRESENT" when Obama was born and she's NEVER been to Hawaii or the US:


It goes on and on, MUCH MORE PROOF that he was born in Kenya!

How cute. Folks who have never physically examined his birth certificate, call it a forgery.

 

[turzovka]

There was never any disagreement. He has a half sister who didn't know what hospital he was born in and named the wrong one when asked. No big deal really... I can't even tell you the name of the hospital my siblings, or my parents, were born in.

No, but if you were given a multiple choice question with two possible answers I bet you would get it right every time.

Not only was his half sister confused, he's also got a grandmother and cousin in Kenya who could have sworn they were present when he was born, --bad memories in that family

 

[HenryBHough]

IF O'Bumbles is ever definitely proven to have been ineligible let us hope it happens between mid-November, 2015 and early-January, 2016 minimizing Joe Biden's shot at being president for more than a few days.

America's existence may depend on it!

 

[Hawkeye2j]

There was never any disagreement. He has a half sister who didn't know what hospital he was born in and named the wrong one when asked. No big deal really... I can't even tell you the name of the hospital my siblings, or my parents, were born in.

No, but if you were given a multiple choice question with two possible answers I bet you would get it right every time.

Not only was his half sister confused, he's also got a grandmother and cousin in Kenya who could have sworn they were present when he was born, --bad memories in that family

For this elaborate conspiracy to take place like you believe then back in 1961 they would have had to fake a newspaper birth announcement. Did they know when he was born he was going to run for President? Birthers are idiots.

 

[KenyanBornObama]

What else are you so confident about I wonder?

Yes, I am seriously hardcore willfully delusional. So are people who believe rocks turn into humans.

But my contention is simple. The media is far and away liberal and they have no desire to expose this fraud. The right media (fox) and politicians have always been very afraid of this issue because they would never get a fair shake in the public in an honest and thorough examination of the facts. So they backed off because there is no upside for them. The public is either naïve, ignorant or gullible for various reasons. Plus they find it hard to believe a forgery could be made, even though there is so much espionage and coverup in politics and govt I do not know why that sounds so implausible? The guy waited 2 1/2 years to produce it. What a scoundrel, holding the nation hostage and diverting focus away from important issues just to play his games. The guy let Hillary get the jump on him by not producing it during the 2008 campaign. That makes no sense. The guy is a known con artist and hides everything.

The point is this. If you or anyone else really wanted to know all of the facts about Barack and his birth, you could uncover a TON! But no one wants to know. No one wants to be shown they are wrong. They would rather join the crowd and look so accomplished and LOL at the birthers. I am so happy for all of you.


Here is just a sample of reports no one is really interested in:

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/its-a-miracle-barack-obama-born-in-two-different-hospitals/blog-20464/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292717/

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

Report Obama s 1991 Literary Agency Described Him as Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii TheBlaze.com

Bullshit. I don't care how Liberal the media is, they're in the business to make money. And they would make a fucking fortune if it were proven Obama was born in Kenya. Compared to now where they're making practically nothing off of the birther idiocy. Not to mention, not all of the media is Liberal. There's Fox, there are plenty of conservative websites, there's AM radio, and even no e of them could prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Even Trump, with all of his money and resources, couldn't prove Obama was born in Kenya. There's a reason birthers are among the craziest in the nation.

sorry, guy, I strongly beg to differ.

If you want to include internet news sites then there are hundreds of articles which take the time to investigate, sight all of the incongruities and faults with that which you are so sure is the truth.

No, your president is a phony and a liar. He was never born in Hawaii. I have read more than enough, but I have no zeal to make my case once again.

You could start with this inexplicable. A tale of two birth certificates

But if you really have an interest, WorldNetDaily.com is as thorough as all of your cowardly, fawning liberal mainstream media news sites combined X 100. This particular link lists over a hundred articles on the subject. I do not expect positive results in changing your mind, unfortunately.
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve

You can differ all you want -- no one has been able to prove Obama was born in Kenya and no one has been able to prove his Hawaiian birth record is anything less than authentic.

Sorry but...
No one can prove that he was born in Hawaii. There is much more evidence that proves he was born in Kenya then Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii, why did he have to forge a birth certificate!

No one can prove to you that Obama was born in Hawaii- but you are a Birther- therefore an idiot- and won't believe anything that is not fed to you by WND or convicted con men.

But for rational persons- we rely upon facts- from reliable sources
Vital Records

Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth

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The index data regarding President Obama is:

Birth Index
Obama II, Barack Hussein
Male

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I rely upon the actual people in charge of maintaining official records- you rely upon convicted con men- such as this gem you refer to in your post:

What you don't seem to get is that EVEN IF he WAS born in Hawaii, he's still not eligible. To be a natural born citizen, BOTH parents must be citizens and Obama's father was never a citizen.

SO, I will GIVE you the Hawaiian Birth and the birth certificate, but how you gonna get past that Natural Born Citizen issue, YOU CAN'T!