Obama 2012 Campaign Abandons White Working Class

[AmericanFirst]

And?

The adminstration didn't abandon them..it works for the interests of the white working class all the time. It abandoned the notion it would get their votes. Immigration being the sore point. As well as racism.

yeah yeah yeah,,, you don't have much longer to pull out and plunk down that tattered worn out race card.. use it whilst the using is good..

Well see how many hispanics go for the Republican ticket this time around. Right after Arabs, they are the most demonized sector in America at the moment.

Should be good for Democrats come 2012.

Dimwits have always been the party of the lower classes.

 

[kiwiman127]

Listening to the rhetoric from GOP leaders, if anyone has turned their backs on the working class it has to be the GOP!

Why would I say this?
>Cain's 9-9-9 plan would raise the taxes on the working class and lower the taxes on the wealthy.
>The same goes for Perry's 20% flat tax.
>Paul Ryan's plan would raise taxes on the working class and lower taxes of the wealthy, raise the elderly's financial responsibility for Medicare.
>The GOP's plan for reducing the deficit falls squarely on the working class and the poor, while not asking sacrifice by the wealthy.

All of the above goes against already financially struggling demographic groups and the public, in poll after poll after poll shows that these ideas are not popular at all with the working class.

Now probably, whoever gets the GOP nomination will soften their rhetoric on these issues. Unfortunately, for whoever the nominee is, there's the video's/quotes that would be easily available for the Dems to use against the GOP.

Now as most of us knows, the Dems are the party of not knowing how to put a budget together, so in other words they have no ideas. So the question would be, what is going to stimulate the voter, particularly the working class voter? No ideas which aren't threatening to the working class voter or ideas that threaten the working class voter economically?

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Joe Lunchpail was the guy in the breadline and the soup kitchen that voted FDR into office in 1932. "All we have to fear is fear itself!" Abandoning him in order to instead curry favor with the LGBT college professor and librarian is a serious mistake.

"I didn't leave my party! My party left me!" Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller, from remarks at the RNC, Summer 2004.
The DNC, with every second that passes, moving further and further away from the heartbeat of America.

 

[Dragon]

Two questions immediately arise:

1) How does the voting behavior of the white working class differ from that of the non-white working class (which the Democrats expect to win)?

2) How does the voting behavior of the white working class differ from that of the white middle class (which the Democrats expect to win)?

The white working class shares all of the economic interests of the non-white working class. So the issues where the Democrats lose this demographic must be other than economics. The most obvious issues are racial and nativist: white working-class people would like, ideally, a party that represents the economic issues of the working class (which the Democrats try to do, and do better than the Republicans), AND also promotes WHITE people over and above black people and brown people and slanty-eyed orientals.

At the same time, whites with more education tend to be less race-conscious and more socially liberal than those with less, which means they are less motivated by racial and nativist issues.

There's another factor to consider, too, and that's generational. While the above does describe an unfortunately large chunk of OLDER white working-class voters, it does not at all describe the white working class Millennial vote. So any problems here are likely to be temporary.

Given that the Democrats cannot win the white working class vote as it currently stands AND also win the black and Hispanic vote (because they would have to adopt racist and nativist rhetoric and possibly racist and nativist policies to do so), they're making a rational choice.

 

[Ernie S.]

And?

The adminstration didn't abandon them..it works for the interests of the white working class all the time. It abandoned the notion it would get their votes. Immigration being the sore point. As well as racism.

It works for the white working class, as long as they're dues paying members of a trade union that contributes to the Democratic Party.

 

[kiwiman127]

Joe Lunchpail was the guy in the breadline and the soup kitchen that voted FDR into office in 1932. "All we have to fear is fear itself!" Abandoning him in order to instead curry favor with the LGBT college professor and librarian is a serious mistake.

"I didn't leave my party! My party left me!" Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller, from remarks at the RNC, Summer 2004.
The DNC, with every second that passes, moving further and further away from the heartbeat of America.

Yes, the DNC is moving further to the left and the GOP is moving further to the right. In other words, both parties are being driven by the fringe. That's very scary stuff considering a huge majority is somewhere in-between.

I keep hoping for a centralist party to emerge that truly represents midle America with viable candidates.

 

[Ernie S.]

Well see how many hispanics go for the Republican ticket this time around. Right after Arabs, they are the most demonized sector in America at the moment.

Should be good for Democrats come 2012.

Gingrich will pull in a hefty amount of that Hispanic vote with what he is proposing. You leftists lost any lock you thought you had on it.

He might but it would be a very small part of it.. It's the same sort of thing Bush put on the table. And Gingrich loses just about everyone else not white and christian.

Go down to Miami and ask a Hispanic person at random, who he'll vote for.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I disagree. I think he'll pull in more, especially if the dems don't make any mention of any sort of legalization they might do, and if Gingrich loses any white Christian vote, it won't be many. I've been adamantly against any kind of amnesty myself forever, but I think what Gingrich is proposing is a sane and legitimate way to deal with the millions of illegal aliens that have been here 25 years and longer that have family and have been paying taxes. So if Gingrich didn't lose my vote, as hard right as I am, then he isn't losing many others either. If his statements on immigration were going to hurt him, it would have already showed in the polls, and it hasn't.

I think you misunderstood. He's got a solid constituency with people White and Christian. But today's Republican party scares everyone not white and christian. And that's really something. Aside from immigration hispanics..and indeed most new immigrants and minorities are solidly conservative. Take hispanics. They are christian and share alot of the same values as most Republicans. They are extremely patriotic. But over and over again they are demonized. It's the same with Asian Americans..especially the Chinese. Very conservative..very pro business. But the navitism is really scaring away alot of people who would be solidly Republican otherwise.

Todays Republican party SCARES everyone NOT white and Christian? Wow... I don't buy that at all, not for second. I'm sure people like Herman Cain, Allen West, Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio would strongly disagree with you as well.

But even if it were true, seeing as 85% of all Americans claim to be Christian....

That's what everybody says....on FAUX Noise.....huh???​

I think you leftists are going to get a historic sized trouncing come next November, and I'll stand by that prediction.

Wow......you (actually) found the transcript for a '96 Porky Limbaugh show??!!!!

​

 

[Katzndogz]

Gingrich will pull in a hefty amount of that Hispanic vote with what he is proposing. You leftists lost any lock you thought you had on it.

He might but it would be a very small part of it.. It's the same sort of thing Bush put on the table. And Gingrich loses just about everyone else not white and christian.

Go down to Miami and ask a Hispanic person at random, who he'll vote for.

In MIAMI! The hispanics are mostly Cuban. They don't have a heck of a lot in common with the Tiajuana mexicans of the southwest.

 

[occupied]

Racial politics is an ugly business, typical to see conservatives engaging in it. It still works in this day and age, abandon the minority vote and try to frighten all of the white people into voting republican. Telling people to abandon all reason and vote their fears is perhaps a way to win but counting on ignorant cowardice to carry the day for your side is to count on the worst part of ourselves.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Listening to the rhetoric from GOP leaders, if anyone has turned their backs on the working class it has to be the GOP!

Why would I say this?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......​

January 2009​

"In the eight years since George W. Bush took office, nearly every component of the U.S. economy has deteriorated. The nation’s budget deficits, trade deficits, and debt have reached record levels. Unemployment and inflation are up, and household savings are down. Nearly 4 million manufacturing jobs have disappeared and, not coincidentally, 5 million more Americans have no health insurance. Consumer debt has almost doubled, and nearly one fifth of American homeowners are likely to owe more in mortgage debt than their homes are actually worth. Meanwhile, as we have reported previously, the final price for the war in Iraq is expected to reach at least $3 trillion.

Whether we struggle to break our addiction to deficit spending in order to pay off our debts, or wind up inflating them away, the economic mistakes of the George W. Bush White House will cast a long shadow over the next generation of Americans."

The $10 Trillion Hangoverhttp://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=1320​

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Rush caught the NYT web article as well. He's articulated it as the Democrats saying "If you work, we don't want you, but if you're a loser, we do"
Let another talk show host pick this up and run with it as well and we'll see more than a few Democrats heading to the upper floor windows preparatory to a jump. Barney Frank went out the fiftieth floor window this morning. DLTDHYOTWO, Barney.

NY Times: Democrats Not Interested in Voters Who Work, Targets Losers Instead - The Rush Limbaugh Show

 

[Mr. Shaman]

He might but it would be a very small part of it.. It's the same sort of thing Bush put on the table. And Gingrich loses just about everyone else not white and christian.

Go down to Miami and ask a Hispanic person at random, who he'll vote for.

In MIAMI! The hispanics are mostly Cuban. They don't have a heck of a lot in common with the Tiajuana mexicans of the southwest.

....Except their COLOR.....and, that's all Republicans need to SEE!!

 

[blastoff]

It's hard to keep them on your side when you don't have any white race cards.

 

[007]

Joe Lunchpail was the guy in the breadline and the soup kitchen that voted FDR into office in 1932. "All we have to fear is fear itself!" Abandoning him in order to instead curry favor with the LGBT college professor and librarian is a serious mistake.

"I didn't leave my party! My party left me!" Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller, from remarks at the RNC, Summer 2004.
The DNC, with every second that passes, moving further and further away from the heartbeat of America.

Yes, the DNC is moving further to the left and the GOP is moving further to the right. In other words, both parties are being driven by the fringe. That's very scary stuff considering a huge majority is somewhere in-between.

I keep hoping for a centralist party to emerge that truly represents midle America with viable candidates.

I disagree. The left is turning into a bunch of outright, bat shit crazy, lunatic socialists and radicals, and the middle is getting drug along further to the left with it. So that in turn, every time the right gives in a little to the left, makes the middle less conservative. But don't think for a second that us true social and financial conservatives don't notice. We want a TRUE social and financial CONSERVATIVE, and when we finally get a repub with enough of a SPINE to run on true conservativitism, they win. There are far more conservatives in this country than lefty loons, and we don't like the direction you leftists are dragging the country, and we're going to show you just how much we don't like it next November. Get ready for an "ADJUSTMENT" back to the RIGHT.

 

[Dragon]

To say that the Democrats are moving further left would be, at this point, wishful thinking on my part.

It may happen as a result of Occupy -- that's certainly the idea. But I am not prepared at this point to say we've already won that battle.

 

[edthecynic]

Rush caught the NYT web article as well. He's articulated it as the Democrats saying "If you work, we don't want you, but if you're a loser, we do"
Let another talk show host pick this up and run with it as well and we'll see more than a few Democrats heading to the upper floor windows preparatory to a jump. Barney Frank went out the fiftieth floor window this morning. DLTDHYOTWO, Barney.

NY Times: Democrats Not Interested in Voters Who Work, Targets Losers Instead - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Obviously the Dems are appealing to your MessiahRushie's audience, since people who have jobs won't be listening to LardBoy, they'll be at work. I wonder if his audience is aware enough to have caught him calling them "losers?"
I doubt it!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Joe Lunchpail was the guy in the breadline and the soup kitchen that voted FDR into office in 1932. "All we have to fear is fear itself!" Abandoning him in order to instead curry favor with the LGBT college professor and librarian is a serious mistake.

"I didn't leave my party! My party left me!" Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller, from remarks at the RNC, Summer 2004.
The DNC, with every second that passes, moving further and further away from the heartbeat of America.

Yes, the DNC is moving further to the left and the GOP is moving further to the right. In other words, both parties are being driven by the fringe. That's very scary stuff considering a huge majority is somewhere in-between.

I keep hoping for a centralist party to emerge that truly represents midle America with viable candidates.

I disagree. The left is turning into a bunch of outright, bat shit crazy, lunatic socialists and radicals, and the middle is getting drug along further to the left with it. So that in turn, every time the right gives in a little to the left, makes the middle less conservative. But don't think for a second that us true social and financial conservatives don't notice. We want a TRUE social and financial CONSERVATIVE, and when we finally get a repub with enough of a SPINE to run on true conservativitism, they win. There are far more conservatives in this country than lefty loons, and we don't like the direction you leftists are dragging the country, and we're going to show you just how much we don't like it next November. Get ready for an "ADJUSTMENT" back to the RIGHT.

Yeah.....that's what Porky Limbaugh said, in '96.

 

[EriktheRed]

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