NY Times: Venezuela’s economic devastation comparable to countries destroyed by war

[BluesLegend]

Socialiam has never worked and the assholes on the left want it here. No thanks

Socialism works great for the elite socialists at the top who control the money. Which is why Dem's want socialism.

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

 

[daveman]

The Government's Prayer

Our Government in D.C.,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy nanny state come
Thy mandate be done
On flyover country as it is in the coasts.
Give us this month our monthly check,
And audit us our trespasses,
As we file suit against those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into liberty,
But deliver us from ourselves.
For thine is the oligarchy,
And the power, and the glory,
Forever and ever.
Amen.

So, why not get rid of the oligarchs and mobsters?

I've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

I don't support illegal US sanctions, do you?

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"The August 2017 Sanctions The August 2017 sanctions prohibited the Venezuelan government from borrowing in US financial markets.

"This prevented the government from restructuring its foreign debt, because any debt restructuring requires the issuance of new bonds in exchange for the existing debt.

"Thus, these sanctions prevented the economy from recovering from a deep recession which had already taken a large toll on the population, which along with the economy was more vulnerable to these sanctions and the ones that followed as a result of the economic crisis.

"Real GDP had already declined by about 24.7 percent from 2013 through 2016, and consumer price inflation for January to August 2017 was probably somewhere between 758 percent and 1,350 percent at an annual rate."

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

 

[francoHFW]

NY Times: Venezuela’s economic devastation comparable to countries destroyed by war​

May 17, 2019 ~ By John Sexton
Democratic socialism is working in Venezuela. It’s working to make everyone miserable and hungry. The sign in the photo above reads: “Maduro is hunger.” The NY Times (Venezuela’s Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say - The New York Times) reports the economic decline Venezuelans are now experiencing is unsurpassed in the past 45 years outside of countries in the midst of war:-- Zimbabwe’s collapse under Robert Mugabe. The fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba’s disastrous unraveling in the 1990s. The crumbling of Venezuela’s economy has now outpaced them all. Venezuela’s fall is the single largest economic collapse outside of war in at least 45 years, economists say.
Given the scale of this disaster, it’s no longer acceptable for Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to roll their eyes at the mention of Venezuela. They need to explain in detail how their proposals for a socialist America differ in kind from the (once widely admired) socialism Hugo Chavez introduced in Venezuela. And if they can’t spell out those differences in some detail, we should take that as an admission that they can’t guarantee the same thing won’t happen here.

~~~~~~
Venezuela is at war...a civil war. Unfortunately, only the gov't is armed. If Venezuela's people had the Right to keep and bear arms, Maduro would've been removed from power last year.
If the Progressive Marxist Socialist/ DSA candidates cannot point out those differences in some detail, we should take that as an admission that they can’t guarantee the same thing won’t happen here. The difference, in their mind, is the same as it's been for Marxist Socialists for the past fifty years: "If WE do it, it will work."
We should all be surprised that the NYT notices the total failure of Marxist Socialism in Venezuela, especially since they've fawned over Fidel Castro’s rape of Cuba for decades.

Bulshit it is American sanctions and the GOP bubble and bust of 2008 that did this to Venezuela. Trump has made it so they can't even sell their oil LOL and you think the problem is their government I don't think so, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialiam has never worked and the assholes on the left want it here. No thanks

Socialism works great for the elite socialists at the top who control the money. Which is why Dem's want socialism.

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

 

[BluesLegend]

Socialiam has never worked and the assholes on the left want it here. No thanks

Socialism works great for the elite socialists at the top who control the money. Which is why Dem's want socialism.

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

Too bad Americans in 30 states voted for our view of America. Tissue?

 

[francoHFW]

Socialiam has never worked and the assholes on the left want it here. No thanks

Socialism works great for the elite socialists at the top who control the money. Which is why Dem's want socialism.

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

Too bad Americans in 30 states voted for our view of America. Tissue?

Yeah your party won, totally misinformed, because of the Russians. Great for you bad for the world and everyone in it. Stop wrecking America, read a newspaper get some fresh air. We will survive and he is not getting re-elected. People are figuring that out...

 

[BluesLegend]

Socialism works great for the elite socialists at the top who control the money. Which is why Dem's want socialism.

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

Too bad Americans in 30 states voted for our view of America. Tissue?

Yeah your party won, totally misinformed, because of the Russians. Great for you bad for the world and everyone in it. Stop wrecking America, read a newspaper get some fresh air. We will survive and he is not getting re-elected. People are figuring that out...

After we will whoop your ass again in 2020 then what will your excuse be?

 

[francoHFW]

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

Too bad Americans in 30 states voted for our view of America. Tissue?

Yeah your party won, totally misinformed, because of the Russians. Great for you bad for the world and everyone in it. Stop wrecking America, read a newspaper get some fresh air. We will survive and he is not getting re-elected. People are figuring that out...

After we will whoop your ass again in 2020 then what will your excuse be?

Same again I suppose. He's not doing anything to stop the Russians. But this time they will not be able to hack, the main problem.

 

[francoHFW]

Like capitalism doesn't need socialist bailouts from the government from time to time.

Cut all your damn socialist taxes then capitalism won't need any bailouts.

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

Too bad Americans in 30 states voted for our view of America. Tissue?

Yeah your party won, totally misinformed, because of the Russians. Great for you bad for the world and everyone in it. Stop wrecking America, read a newspaper get some fresh air. We will survive and he is not getting re-elected. People are figuring that out...

After we will whoop your ass again in 2020 then what will your excuse be?

And it is the Democrats who are obsessed with 2016? Wrong again. You won you cut taxes on the rich. Now you're done things just keep getting worse and worse great job. How about arguing the points I made. Are you such a slave to the rich? You enjoy the rest of us being wrecked?

Every rich country in the world but us is Democratic socialist or socialist as it is known everywhere but brainwashed Cold War dinosaur GOP America, super dupe. The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training. Trump figured that out if he didn't know already- totally fos. Only your propaganda world makes this crap possible.

 

[georgephillip]

So, why not get rid of the oligarchs and mobsters?

I've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

I don't support illegal US sanctions, do you?

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"The August 2017 Sanctions The August 2017 sanctions prohibited the Venezuelan government from borrowing in US financial markets.

"This prevented the government from restructuring its foreign debt, because any debt restructuring requires the issuance of new bonds in exchange for the existing debt.

"Thus, these sanctions prevented the economy from recovering from a deep recession which had already taken a large toll on the population, which along with the economy was more vulnerable to these sanctions and the ones that followed as a result of the economic crisis.

"Real GDP had already declined by about 24.7 percent from 2013 through 2016, and consumer price inflation for January to August 2017 was probably somewhere between 758 percent and 1,350 percent at an annual rate."

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

 

[BluesLegend]

The problem is the rich here are now paying the same percentage as You are in ALL taxes and so there is not enough money to invest in our infrastructure and our people like cheap college and training.

LMAO go ahead have your operatives in higher education lower the cost of tuition...no? Yeah we thought not.

 

[daveman]

I've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

've seen what you support. That's how Venezuela got fucked up.

I don't support illegal US sanctions, do you?

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"The August 2017 Sanctions The August 2017 sanctions prohibited the Venezuelan government from borrowing in US financial markets.

"This prevented the government from restructuring its foreign debt, because any debt restructuring requires the issuance of new bonds in exchange for the existing debt.

"Thus, these sanctions prevented the economy from recovering from a deep recession which had already taken a large toll on the population, which along with the economy was more vulnerable to these sanctions and the ones that followed as a result of the economic crisis.

"Real GDP had already declined by about 24.7 percent from 2013 through 2016, and consumer price inflation for January to August 2017 was probably somewhere between 758 percent and 1,350 percent at an annual rate."

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

 

[georgephillip]

I don't support illegal US sanctions, do you?

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"The August 2017 Sanctions The August 2017 sanctions prohibited the Venezuelan government from borrowing in US financial markets.

"This prevented the government from restructuring its foreign debt, because any debt restructuring requires the issuance of new bonds in exchange for the existing debt.

"Thus, these sanctions prevented the economy from recovering from a deep recession which had already taken a large toll on the population, which along with the economy was more vulnerable to these sanctions and the ones that followed as a result of the economic crisis.

"Real GDP had already declined by about 24.7 percent from 2013 through 2016, and consumer price inflation for January to August 2017 was probably somewhere between 758 percent and 1,350 percent at an annual rate."

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

 

[daveman]

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

Nobody has a right to participate in American markets. But you just make sure you blame anybody but the socialists.

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

 

[georgephillip]

American capitalists have no right to impose unilateral sanctions, or to blame socialism for the human cost such illegal collective punishment inflicts.

http://cepr.net/images/stories/reports/venezuela-sanctions-2019-04.pdf

"We find that the sanctions have inflicted, and increasingly inflict, very serious harm to human life and health, including an estimated more than 40,000 deaths from 2017–2018; and that these sanctions would fit the definition of collective punishment of the civilian population as described in both the Geneva and Hague international conventions, to which the US is a signatory.

"They are also illegal under international law and treaties which the US has signed, and would appear to violate US law as well."

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

What are you hearing from Venezuelans?

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

"'Because of the international economic blockade the United States has imposed on Venezuela it’s been impossible to buy the pumps, because the Venezuelan government has tried to send the funds twice in order to acquire the pumps, since we don’t have them here, because of the blockade. And it has never worked, because they have blocked the companies and the countries that have been trying to help us.'"

"President Donald Trump intensified sanctions on Venezuela in August 2017.

"According to Venezuela, the U.S. government has frozen $5.5 Billion U.S. dollars of Venezuelan funds in international accounts in at least 50 banks and financial institutions."

 

[anynameyouwish]

NY Times: Venezuela’s economic devastation comparable to countries destroyed by war​

May 17, 2019 ~ By John Sexton
Democratic socialism is working in Venezuela. It’s working to make everyone miserable and hungry. The sign in the photo above reads: “Maduro is hunger.” The NY Times (Venezuela’s Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say - The New York Times) reports the economic decline Venezuelans are now experiencing is unsurpassed in the past 45 years outside of countries in the midst of war:-- Zimbabwe’s collapse under Robert Mugabe. The fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba’s disastrous unraveling in the 1990s. The crumbling of Venezuela’s economy has now outpaced them all. Venezuela’s fall is the single largest economic collapse outside of war in at least 45 years, economists say.
Given the scale of this disaster, it’s no longer acceptable for Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to roll their eyes at the mention of Venezuela. They need to explain in detail how their proposals for a socialist America differ in kind from the (once widely admired) socialism Hugo Chavez introduced in Venezuela. And if they can’t spell out those differences in some detail, we should take that as an admission that they can’t guarantee the same thing won’t happen here.

~~~~~~
Venezuela is at war...a civil war. Unfortunately, only the gov't is armed. If Venezuela's people had the Right to keep and bear arms, Maduro would've been removed from power last year.
If the Progressive Marxist Socialist/ DSA candidates cannot point out those differences in some detail, we should take that as an admission that they can’t guarantee the same thing won’t happen here. The difference, in their mind, is the same as it's been for Marxist Socialists for the past fifty years: "If WE do it, it will work."
We should all be surprised that the NYT notices the total failure of Marxist Socialism in Venezuela, especially since they've fawned over Fidel Castro’s rape of Cuba for decades.

Most of the democrats and liberals I know use finland, denmark, sweden as the SOCIALIST DEMOCRACIES that they would like to emulate.


not venezuela or cuba......


would you care to discuss finland?
denmak?


no?


I didn't think so......

 

[daveman]

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

If the socialists running Venezuela cared about Venezuelans, they'd have stopped oppressing them.

And stop whining about kolektive punishment. The left operates on it.

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

What are you hearing from Venezuelans?

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

"'Because of the international economic blockade the United States has imposed on Venezuela it’s been impossible to buy the pumps, because the Venezuelan government has tried to send the funds twice in order to acquire the pumps, since we don’t have them here, because of the blockade. And it has never worked, because they have blocked the companies and the countries that have been trying to help us.'"

"President Donald Trump intensified sanctions on Venezuela in August 2017.

"According to Venezuela, the U.S. government has frozen $5.5 Billion U.S. dollars of Venezuelan funds in international accounts in at least 50 banks and financial institutions."

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

 

[georgephillip]

Collective punishment?

Which one will you pick in 2020?

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

What are you hearing from Venezuelans?

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

"'Because of the international economic blockade the United States has imposed on Venezuela it’s been impossible to buy the pumps, because the Venezuelan government has tried to send the funds twice in order to acquire the pumps, since we don’t have them here, because of the blockade. And it has never worked, because they have blocked the companies and the countries that have been trying to help us.'"

"President Donald Trump intensified sanctions on Venezuela in August 2017.

"According to Venezuela, the U.S. government has frozen $5.5 Billion U.S. dollars of Venezuelan funds in international accounts in at least 50 banks and financial institutions."

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy

 

[daveman]

Oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself.

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Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

What are you hearing from Venezuelans?

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

"'Because of the international economic blockade the United States has imposed on Venezuela it’s been impossible to buy the pumps, because the Venezuelan government has tried to send the funds twice in order to acquire the pumps, since we don’t have them here, because of the blockade. And it has never worked, because they have blocked the companies and the countries that have been trying to help us.'"

"President Donald Trump intensified sanctions on Venezuela in August 2017.

"According to Venezuela, the U.S. government has frozen $5.5 Billion U.S. dollars of Venezuelan funds in international accounts in at least 50 banks and financial institutions."

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy

Why did Maduro's forces blockade the bridge?

It's simple. He doesn't want the whole world to know how badly he fucked up a once-prosperous country.

 

[georgephillip]

Few, if any, Trump supporters demonstrate any capacity for thinking, especially about Venezuela:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality...."

"It started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation. That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control."

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

me: oh, look, another leftist bot who spews his leftist programming and believes he's thinking for himself

you: I AM NOT A BOT BY THE WAY HERES SOME LEFTIST PROGRAMMING FROM ANOTHER LEFTIST BOT

What are you hearing from Venezuelans?

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

"'Because of the international economic blockade the United States has imposed on Venezuela it’s been impossible to buy the pumps, because the Venezuelan government has tried to send the funds twice in order to acquire the pumps, since we don’t have them here, because of the blockade. And it has never worked, because they have blocked the companies and the countries that have been trying to help us.'"

"President Donald Trump intensified sanctions on Venezuela in August 2017.

"According to Venezuela, the U.S. government has frozen $5.5 Billion U.S. dollars of Venezuelan funds in international accounts in at least 50 banks and financial institutions."

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

All the Venezuelan government had to do was stop oppressing their people.

But they weren't about to do that.

Venezuela’s Maduro regime burns humanitarian aid

Can't wait to hear how you blame Trump for this, Comrade.

Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy

Why did Maduro's forces blockade the bridge?

It's simple. He doesn't want the whole world to know how badly he fucked up a once-prosperous country.

Why did Maduro's forces blockade the bridge?

It's simple. He doesn't want the whole world to know how badly he fucked up a once-prosperous country.

How would Maduro have known what was included in that "humanitarian aid"? The US has demonstrated its hypocrisy on issues like this for decades:

Why Maduro is blocking Venezuela-bound humanitarian aid when so many people in his country need it

"These tensions could become a full-blown crisis, as has become clear along the Venezuela-Colombia border, where Maduro is blocking the entry of U.S. humanitarian aid.

"The United States says it is sending US$20 million in food and medical supplies to alleviate suffering at a time when Venezuelans are experiencing widespread malnutrition and lack access to health care.

"Maduro contends that these shipments are a plot to meddle in his country’s internal affairs – a Trojan horse courtesy of Uncle Sam to undermine Venezuelan democracy.

"Although there is no clear evidence of an ulterior motive, history does give Maduro reasons to be skeptical of U.S. intentions. As a political scientist who studies both the political ramifications of international assistance, and Venezuela’s growing instability, I find that humanitarian aid is rarely just about saving lives."

The $20 million in food and medical supplies would not have been necessary if the US hadn't inflicted illegal billion dollar sanctions on the Venezuelan economy.