NRA General Counsel Robert Dowlut Convicted of Murder

[ChrisL]

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Sorry, but the SCOTUS voted 5-4 that the individual's right is what the 2nd Amendment protects. Heller v. DC.

Was Adam Lanza seeking treatment?

Hey, maybe you should tell your fellow Wingnuts that Roe v. Wade was decided 7-2.

Frankly, Heller was an awful, partisan ruling.

ANOTHER off topic comment.

 

[ChrisL]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

Interesting that you bring up McVeigh. He murdered 168 people. And he did not use a gun to kill a single one.

Good point!

 

[WinterBorn]

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Sorry, but the SCOTUS voted 5-4 that the individual's right is what the 2nd Amendment protects. Heller v. DC.

Was Adam Lanza seeking treatment?

Hey, maybe you should tell your fellow Wingnuts that Roe v. Wade was decided 7-2.

Frankly, Heller was an awful, partisan ruling.

Do you know my stance on Roe v. Wade? Or are you grasping at straws again?

 

[JoeB131]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

 

[ChrisL]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

It most certainly does give me control over what happens to my person and my property.

Obama probably can't even "peg" Michelle.

 

[WinterBorn]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

Absolute bullshit. Once again you are spouting nonsense you cannot know, while claiming it to be factual.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

 

[WinterBorn]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

It may not give someone control in all things, but it damn sure gives them some control over what happens to them. It gives them the ability to defend themselves instead of hiding in a closet and hoping the cops get there in time.

 

[JoeB131]

Here are some non-gun related mass murders for you to examine:


The oldest one listed happened in 2003, so well below your 20 year threshold.

Dude, did you REALLY waste time looking these up? Man, you are pathetic.

Point is, mass killing are RARE in countries that limit guns. You had to cover numerous countries over a decade to find as many mass shooting as the US has in a year.

I could live with one mass killing a decade.

 

[JoeB131]

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Sorry, but the SCOTUS voted 5-4 that the individual's right is what the 2nd Amendment protects. Heller v. DC.

Was Adam Lanza seeking treatment?

Hey, maybe you should tell your fellow Wingnuts that Roe v. Wade was decided 7-2.

Frankly, Heller was an awful, partisan ruling.

Do you know my stance on Roe v. Wade? Or are you grasping at straws again?

You work on the assumption I care what you think.

 

[WinterBorn]

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Sorry, but the SCOTUS voted 5-4 that the individual's right is what the 2nd Amendment protects. Heller v. DC.

Was Adam Lanza seeking treatment?

Hey, maybe you should tell your fellow Wingnuts that Roe v. Wade was decided 7-2.

Frankly, Heller was an awful, partisan ruling.

Do you know my stance on Roe v. Wade? Or are you grasping at straws again?

You work on the assumption I care what you think.

You are the one who brought it up, and you are the one who suggested I tell people about it.

If you don't care what my stance on the issue is, then your comment becomes just one more attempt to derail the discussion.

 

[JoeB131]

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It may not give someone control in all things, but it damn sure gives them some control over what happens to them. It gives them the ability to defend themselves instead of hiding in a closet and hoping the cops get there in time.

Uh, no. A gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill someone in the house than a bad guy.

I've known three families who've had to bury members killed by that gun bought for protection.

 

[WinterBorn]

Here are some non-gun related mass murders for you to examine:


The oldest one listed happened in 2003, so well below your 20 year threshold.

Dude, did you REALLY waste time looking these up? Man, you are pathetic.

Point is, mass killing are RARE in countries that limit guns. You had to cover numerous countries over a decade to find as many mass shooting as the US has in a year.

I could live with one mass killing a decade.

I entered a phrase into Google and found one website with all that info.

The point is, despite your claims to the contrary, mass killings would continue without firearms.

But what would also happen is that at least 100k crimes would not be stopped each year by a citizen with a gun.

And the story I posted about the single mother killed with a shotgun and a machinegun shows that the criminals will still have their guns. Both of those are harder to hide and harder to smuggle than handguns. And a machinegun is much tougher to get. But the wholesale ban on firearms didn't stop the criminals from being armed.

 

[WinterBorn]

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It may not give someone control in all things, but it damn sure gives them some control over what happens to them. It gives them the ability to defend themselves instead of hiding in a closet and hoping the cops get there in time.

Uh, no. A gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill someone in the house than a bad guy.

I've known three families who've had to bury members killed by that gun bought for protection.

Bullshit. That "study" you are quoting has been debunked so many times you should be embarrassed for quoting it.

I shot it down in this thread yesterday. Do try to keep up.

Were the funerals for people who accidently shot themselves?

 

[ChrisL]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

It may not give someone control in all things, but it damn sure gives them some control over what happens to them. It gives them the ability to defend themselves instead of hiding in a closet and hoping the cops get there in time.

Exactly. I had an intruder break into my home when I was a teenager and masturbated in my room while I was sleeping (he THOUGHT I was sleeping anyway). I don't think I've ever been so frightened and felt so helpless in my life, lying there in my bed with no way to defend myself.

Thankfully for me, it was just some pervy neighborhood kid and not a rapist or a murderer. If it had been, I would have been completely defenseless against him. However, if I had a weapon in my bedside drawer, there is the possibility that I could get to it at some point and use it on the bastard.

 

[turtledude]

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We are the United States of America. We have rights that we hold precious that our forefathers gave up their LIVES for.

Was that the right to be exploited by a big corporation, or the right to die of a treatable disease because we don't have universal health care?

thanks for admitting what really motivates you and many other gun banners

you are welfare socialist income redistributionists who don't like the fact that the people you want to loot may be armed

Guy, I don't worry about that. Most of you don't have the balls to shoot government officials.

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

people like joe want to remain in the permanent state of being a child with the government making all the decisions for him. The thought of making self defense a personal responsibility and accepting the risk of such an act, is terrifying to cowards who are afraid to grow up. People like him want to ban guns so they won't be reminded of their own failings as men by armed citizens who proudly proclaim WE WILL MAKE OUR OWN SAFETY A PERSONAL PRIORITY

its time for these gun banners to shed their diapers and rubber pants, and put on their big boy trousers and grow a pair

 

[turtledude]

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

Uh, sorry, haven't taken any money from the Government since I was a Staff Sergeant in the US Army.

But realistically, for all your smack talk about fighting the "gummit", we saw that in the 1990's, when your sort all crawled back into your holes after McVeigh did his thing.

My sort? You don't know anything about anything, never mind about what "my sort" is. You are just a silly government lackey and a traitor to the American people, plain and simple.

I know exactly your sort.

Obama had you pegged when he talked about "Bitter Clingers".

You think the gun gives you control. It doesn't.

I figured you are an Obama Fluffer. You obviously have never faced a lethal confrontation on the street

I have-Turtle one-Mugger 3 (years in the penitentiary and 3 surgeries to put his stomach and rectum back in place)

 

[ChrisL]

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We are the United States of America. We have rights that we hold precious that our forefathers gave up their LIVES for.

Was that the right to be exploited by a big corporation, or the right to die of a treatable disease because we don't have universal health care?

thanks for admitting what really motivates you and many other gun banners

you are welfare socialist income redistributionists who don't like the fact that the people you want to loot may be armed

Guy, I don't worry about that. Most of you don't have the balls to shoot government officials.

You mean YOU don't have the balls and you'd rather climb up into the warmth of the governmental womb because you're nothing but a ***** who cannot even protect yourself or your family. I'll bet even a little girl like me could kick your sorry ass.

people like joe want to remain in the permanent state of being a child with the government making all the decisions for him. The thought of making self defense a personal responsibility and accepting the risk of such an act, is terrifying to cowards who are afraid to grow up. People like him want to ban guns so they won't be reminded of their own failings as men by armed citizens who proudly proclaim WE WILL MAKE OUR OWN SAFETY A PERSONAL PRIORITY

its time for these gun banners to shed their diapers and rubber pants, and put on their big boy trousers and grow a pair

I agree TD!

 

[ChrisL]

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It may not give someone control in all things, but it damn sure gives them some control over what happens to them. It gives them the ability to defend themselves instead of hiding in a closet and hoping the cops get there in time.

Uh, no. A gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill someone in the house than a bad guy.

I've known three families who've had to bury members killed by that gun bought for protection.

Well then you hang around some dumbass people!

 

[ChrisL]

Here are some non-gun related mass murders for you to examine:


The oldest one listed happened in 2003, so well below your 20 year threshold.

Dude, did you REALLY waste time looking these up? Man, you are pathetic.

Point is, mass killing are RARE in countries that limit guns. You had to cover numerous countries over a decade to find as many mass shooting as the US has in a year.

I could live with one mass killing a decade.

I entered a phrase into Google and found one website with all that info.

The point is, despite your claims to the contrary, mass killings would continue without firearms.

But what would also happen is that at least 100k crimes would not be stopped each year by a citizen with a gun.

And the story I posted about the single mother killed with a shotgun and a machinegun shows that the criminals will still have their guns. Both of those are harder to hide and harder to smuggle than handguns. And a machinegun is much tougher to get. But the wholesale ban on firearms didn't stop the criminals from being armed.

Anyone with half a brain knows that if you ban something, you just strengthen the black market for that product and that, in turn, increases the levels of violence.

 

[JakeStarkey]

He paid his debt to society, how is this relevant today? I cannot believe any State Bar would let him practice unless he is proven rehabilitated.

I agree with the reasoning, until you run into an Ollie North, who had his conviction reversed: not because of guilt but because prosecution violated an immunity deal.

Would you believe Ollie when he raised his hand to tell Congress the truth, or if he had become a senator from VA and raised his hand in the other to swear.

Just cause a guy walked, does not mean you give him the benefit of the doubt later on.