November 5 not about electing a president.

[Oddball]

meaning he is part of the duopoly....your either a republican or not...

Whatever being republican is worth these days.....like nothing.

 

[Concerned American]

The upcoming election is no longer about electing a president. It's about saving our democracy. I have some concerns about Biden too, but those concerns are far outweighed by the damage that trump has already promised to visit on our democracy. He already said he would "terminate the Constitution if he determined that fraud occurred during an election." "fire 40,000 career civil servants on day one and replace them with ‘patriots’ loyal to him." "He will bring back the architect of the child separation policy at the border" and "Tom Homan (will) run ICE." Have the Justice Department "investigate Comcast, NBC and MSNBC for treason and remove them from the public airwaves." offered to sell out safety and environmental protections for donations, and the partisan Supreme Court has cleared the way for him to reign terror on the poor and middle class. We have to elect Joe, or somebody else who won't use the newly provided presidential powers at least until congress has time to pass new laws to bring us back to normal. If enough people want to call a special election after that, we can do that, but for now, we have to protect our country. You don't have to vote for Joe, but for the country's sake, vote against trump, the wannabe king.

Sounds like a desperate globalist trying to justify leaving a sinking ship to me. You and your ilk are the biggest threats to America she has ever experienced. Bye-Done and good riddance.

 

[Oddball]

No, there is the democrat party, and the democrat junior team called the GOP.

Red Bull, and Toro Rosso if you prefer F1 terminology.

There's not any pretense that Toro Rosso isn't affiliated with Red Bull.

I still find the pro rasslin' kayfabe analogy far more apropos.

 

[Concerned American]

He said he would do it if he wasn't satisfied with an election.

Hmm. Sounds like something right out of Hilarity's mouth. Where was you indignation when she said those words? Hypocrite.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, there is the democrat party, and the democrat junior team called the GOP.

Red Bull, and Toro Rosso if you prefer F1 terminology.

so why does trump need the republicans?....he can start a 3 rd party right now.....he has more people behind him than any 3rd party has ever had.....

 

[Oddball]

so why does trump need the republicans?....he can start a 3 rd party right now.....he has more people behind him than any 3rd party has ever had.....

Because a hostile takeover of the GOP is easier.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Because a hostile takeover of the GOP is easier.

but they would still be republicans....part of the duopoly....

 

[Oddball]

but they would still be republicans....part of the duopoly....

Still easier than starting a 3rd party.....He takes over the party, and people who align with the populist agenda run as republicans.

Not making any value judgment, just looking at the landscape as I see it.

 

[westwall]

so why does trump need the republicans?....he can start a 3 rd party right now.....he has more people behind him than any 3rd party has ever had.....

Because they are an established party. Had he run independently he wouldn't have won.

The same goes for today, the political class control the media, RFK Jr. Has zero chance to make an impact Because he is running independently. The political class not only killed his father, and uncle, they hamstrung his campaign from the very beginning by denying him the right, that he actually earned, to be on the debate stage.

The political class have EVERYTHING rigged in their favor. So, run independently and disappear, or take over a party from the inside.

THAT is what Trump is attempting to do.

 

[westwall]

Still easier than starting a 3rd party.....He takes over the party, and people who align with the populist agenda run as republicans.

Not making any value judgment, just looking at the landscape as I see it.

Exactly. Setting up a third party is impossible in this day and age. The political class control every aspect of the process.

 

[westwall]

but they would still be republicans....part of the duopoly....

No sir. You are stuck on the name. As I have said, the names are meaningless.

 

[Concerned American]

Still easier than starting a 3rd party.....He takes over the party, and people who align with the populist agenda run as republicans.

Not making any value judgment, just looking at the landscape as I see it.

With Lara Trump as chair of the RNC, looks like he's well on the way to taking it over.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No sir. You are stuck on the name. As I have said, the names are meaningless.

look west no matter what you say...there are 2 fucking parties.....and they are refereed to by just about everyone as the duopoly...just because you dont like the name doesnt mean it don't exist...i have been told by so many here including you at one time that there are 2 parties....and many times i heard that word the duopoly...

 

[westwall]

look west no matter what you say...there are 2 fucking parties.....and they are refereed to by just about everyone as the duopoly...just because you dont like the name doesnt mean it don't exist...i have been told by so many here including you at one time that there are 2 parties....and many times i heard that word the duopoly...

Now you are merely using names to justify inaction. As has been painfully explained to you, there IS no duopoly.

That is a fiction. There is a political class at war with we the people.

They have spent decades getting their tentacles into all aspects of our political life.

They control the demofascists outright, and they also controlled the former GOP. That was a fiction, designed to give the appearance that we had a choice, but we never did because they were BOTH groups.

Trump is taking over the GOP because that is the only way to get ahead. Run independently and vanish, or take over the GOP and mold it to your desires.

That's your choice.

Everything else is fiction.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Now you are merely using names to justify inaction. As has been painfully explained to you, there IS no duopoly.

That is a fiction. There is a political class at war with we the people.

They have spent decades getting their tentacles into all aspects of our political life.

They control the demofascists outright, and they also controlled the former GOP. That was a fiction, designed to give the appearance that we had a choice, but we never did because they were BOTH groups.

Trump is taking over the GOP because that is the only way to get ahead. Run independently and vanish, or take over the GOP and mold it to your desires.

That's your choice.

Everything else is fiction.

and yet that word is used many times even by your fellow trumpers...its imaginary to you....

 

[westwall]

and yet that word is used many times even by your fellow trumpers...its imaginary to you....

No, we have figured out their game. The political class has been waging war against us for a very long time. Propaganda is one of their biggest tools.

If they get you to quit voting, they are successful.

That's all they care about.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, we have figured out their game. The political class has been waging war against us for a very long time. Propaganda is one of their biggest tools.

If they get you to quit voting, they are successful.

That's all they care about.

no matter what, there will still be 2 parties and they will still be refereed to as the duopoly....

 

[BULLDOG]

Because they are an established party. Had he run independently he wouldn't have won.

The same goes for today, the political class control the media, RFK Jr. Has zero chance to make an impact Because he is running independently. The political class not only killed his father, and uncle, they hamstrung his campaign from the very beginning by denying him the right, that he actually earned, to be on the debate stage.

The political class have EVERYTHING rigged in their favor. So, run independently and disappear, or take over a party from the inside.

THAT is what Trump is attempting to do.

RFK has zero chance because he is bat shit crazy.

 

[westwall]

no matter what, there will still be 2 parties and they will still be refereed to as the duopoly....

So what. You WANT to be defeated. That means they have won in your case.

Watch what they DO, not what they say.

Like you I have been disgusted with the party's, and wanted desperately for a third party to come along.

The libertarians started off good, but then they were infiltrated, and taken over by the political class.

Trump is doing to them, what they have been doing to us, for decades.

 

[westwall]

RFK has zero chance because he is bat shit crazy.

How would you know? You're more crazy than him by a country mile so your opinion doesn't matter.