'Not Trump's dumping ground': Outrage over arrival of foreign US deportees in tiny African nation

All you racists need t shut the **** up. Each of you descends from what are called illegal immigrants today. Furthermore, these people probably aren't even criminals. If they were, their countries would want them back to face their courts. And if they committed a crime here, they should stand trial to prove it, not be sent away on the words of a pathological liar and a receding-hairlined nazi ******.
 
‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States
Trump is always finding creative ways to be a total dick.

He and the cult get off on it. It's all about the cruelty.
 
You think the Africans really give a shit about that?...lol
Look white --- Africans invented the concept of law while your ancestors were trying to rub twigs together to make fire. So shut the hell up with the ignorance. Due Process is OUR law that we should be abiding by.
 
Trump is always finding creative ways to be a total dick.

He and the cult get off on it. It's all about the cruelty.
He is too close to the grave for this, because hell is a place you don't get to return from, nor can Trump delay or appeal the decision of the judge who will send him there.
 
These Trump supporters don't get it. Americans traveling abroad are now less safe. And Americans are sitting in foreign prisons hoping to get out.
 
Pardon Jonesie.

If President Trump was able to work out a deal with the Tremendous King of Eswatini to accept these illegals into his realm, what's wrong with that?

Its against the law for the Illegals to stay here. This will give them an opportunity to live in a country that wants them.
 
Look white --- Africans invented the concept of law while your ancestors were trying to rub twigs together to make fire. So shut the hell up with the ignorance. Due Process is OUR law that we should be abiding by.
You wish you could look white.

And how the hell can you have law when you can't write?
 
All you racists need t shut the **** up. Each of you descends from what are called illegal immigrants today. Furthermore, these people probably aren't even criminals. If they were, their countries would want them back to face their courts. And if they committed a crime here, they should stand trial to prove it, not be sent away on the words of a pathological liar and a receding-hairlined nazi ******.
Africans don't like tacos. That's the problem...lol
 
‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States, after its government confirmed that migrants described by a Department of Homeland security spokesperson as “depraved monsters” had been sent to its prisons.

Roughly the size of New Jersey, Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is governed by a monarch who has absolute power. On Wednesday, officials said that five deportees from the US were now being held in isolated units in its jails, acknowledging “widespread concern” but insisting the deported men “pose no threat to the country or its citizens.”

The deportation, according to a statement by acting government spokesperson Thabile Mdluli, was the “result of months of robust high-level engagements” between the US and the southern African nation.

Critics of the move say it is unacceptable for Eswatini to be treated as a “dumping ground” for people considered unfit to live in the US.’


The only depraved monsters are Trump and anyone who supports this reprehensible policy.

Maybe the left needs to organize a NO KINGS protest in Eswatini.
 
Unlawfully?

What's unlawful about detaining someone who is illegally in the US?

Then what if their country wont take them and they committed no crime in the U.S.?

Detain them indefinitely?

I mean if their country really won't take them back, that's one thing. It's just not that typical. Like in the case of Venezuelan detainees, we don't have good diplomatic relations with the country of origin, so they might refuse to take them back. It happens, obviously, but the US has more than enough leverage to send detainees back to their countries of origin in most cases.

This is all just a big scheme that is intended to intimidate would-be migrants, to show them that if they come here now there's no more Mr. Nice Guy. I get that. I just think it's immoral, potentially unconstitutional (depending on the case), and not really necessary. We have an illegal immigration crisis because of free trade policies that dumped US products in Latin America, destroying industries there, and then we used dislocated migrants from these countries to decrease costs of production here. Both parties are complicit, to some degree. We could have solve this 'crisis' a long time ago by having better trade policies and better enforcement of employers who abuse the system. More resources at the border would have helped, too.

But this thread is about deporting dangerous criminals.

No, it's about how people in a small African country don't want to be a dumping ground for a large scale removal of US deportees, which is understandable.

In any case, this discussion's going around in circles.
 
Pardon Jonesie.

If President Trump was able to work out a deal with the Tremendous King of Eswatini to accept these illegals into his realm, what's wrong with that?

Its against the law for the Illegals to stay here. This will give them an opportunity to live in a country that wants them.
It was a deliberate act of cruelty.

They should be sent back home.

And you know it.
 
I'd fly them in to their country, escort them off the plane and fly out.
Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

You'd do this over the objections of the country refusing them?

If so, I'm with you, but a parachute might be a better option. Or a life raft and a paddle for countries with a coastal area.
But then again, all useless "what if's"
It is probably unlikely that a criminal in Venezuala entered the U.S. illegally, and has been living as a law-abiding person ever since. If so, I know there are many Democrats and "not Democrats" who would be fine with him staying.

But suppose there is such a Venezualan who continues to commit crimes in the U.S., gets arrested, but then is released for lack of evidence, or is found not guilty by a jury for the same reason. He's released into the custody of ICE, since he is illegal.

If he was a ciminal in Venezuala, then we'd go for your drop off and scoot option.

I'd say if Venezuala refuses landing rights, then drop him out of the door of the plane in a farmer's field or other relatively soft ground. You might find that extreme. If so, you might want to agree that being sent to the small, but charming African Monarchy of Eswatini, formerly known as Swaziland, would be a good alternative.

BTW, these federal trials you want for people who are not even supposed to be here: How do we pay for them?
 
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

You'd do this over the objections of the country refusing them?

If so, I'm with you, but a parachute might be a better option. Or a life raft and a paddle for countries with a coastal area.

It is probably unlikely that a criminal in Venezuala entered the U.S. illegally, and has been living as a law-abiding person ever since. If so, I know there are many Democrats and "not Democrats" who would be fine with him staying.

But suppose there is such a Venezualan who continues to commit crimes in the U.S., gets arrested, but then is released for lack of evidence, or is found not guilty by a jury for the same reason. He's released into the custody of ICE, since he is illegal.

If he was a ciminal in Venezuala, then we'd go for your drop off and scoot option.

I'd say if Venezuala refuses landing rights, then drop him out of the door of the plane in a farmer's field or other relatively soft ground. You might find that extreme. If so, you might want to agree that being sent to the small, but charming African Monarchy of Eswatini, formerly known as Swaziland, would be a good alternative.

BTW, these federal trials you want for people who are not even supposed to be here: How do we pay for them?

You fund them.
 
What's unlawful about detaining someone who is illegally in the US?



I mean if their country really won't take them back, that's one thing. It's just not that typical. Like in the case of Venezuelan detainees, we don't have good diplomatic relations with the country of origin, so they might refuse to take them back. It happens, obviously, but the US has more than enough leverage to send detainees back to their countries of origin in most cases.
Right. I'm asking about the exceptions.
This is all just a big scheme that is intended to intimidate would-be migrants, to show them that if they come here now there's no more Mr. Nice Guy. I get that. I just think it's immoral, potentially unconstitutional (depending on the case), and not really necessary. We have an illegal immigration crisis because of free trade policies that dumped US products in Latin America, destroying industries there, and then we used dislocated migrants from these countries to decrease costs of production here. Both parties are complicit, to some degree. We could have solve this 'crisis' a long time ago by having better trade policies and better enforcement of employers who abuse the system. More resources at the border would have helped, too.
Suppose all of that is true.

Does that mean that we keep illegal aliens who were violent criminals in their own country?
No, it's about how people in a small African country don't want to be a dumping ground for a large scale removal of US deportees, which is understandable.

In any case, this discussion's going around in circles.
Because you're running away from the question:

What should happen when people who committed heinous crimes in their country then sneaked into America and then their countries won't take them?

Trump's idea is to pay countries to take them.

If that is a bad idea, what is a better one?
 

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