'Not Trump's dumping ground': Outrage over arrival of foreign US deportees in tiny African nation

How bad are they likely to be?

With federal support.

Democrats and "not Democrats" often lament the large amount of money spend keeping violent offenders locked up, preferring instead that they be enrolled in college or simply left alone.

The costs are high:

States incarcerated more than 1 million people at the end of 2021, according to Bureau of Justice Statistics data. To house them, state governments spent a combined $64.0 billion (inflation-adjusted). Spending per prisoner varies more than tenfold across states, from just under $23,000 per person in Arkansas to $307,468 in Massachusetts. Spending in Massachusetts was more than double any other state; the median state spent $64,865 per prisoner for the year.

So, if sending them to Africa saves sixty-four grand for each of them, per year, and only costs a one-time payment of ten grand, for example, we taxpayers got a bargain.

How much did we pay, since you seem to know?

BTW, for people like myself, who believe U.S. prisons should be humane, it is worth it to send prison gang members to another country that knows how to deal with such people, even if it winds up costing more.

What say you, pknopp? Would you pay extra to make U.S. prisons safer and more humane? And less crowded!

We can argue prison conditions in a proper thread but if they are bad as proclaimed they should be tried, convicted and held where we know they won't just be released.
 
‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States, after its government confirmed that migrants described by a Department of Homeland security spokesperson as “depraved monsters” had been sent to its prisons.

Roughly the size of New Jersey, Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is governed by a monarch who has absolute power. On Wednesday, officials said that five deportees from the US were now being held in isolated units in its jails, acknowledging “widespread concern” but insisting the deported men “pose no threat to the country or its citizens.”

The deportation, according to a statement by acting government spokesperson Thabile Mdluli, was the “result of months of robust high-level engagements” between the US and the southern African nation.

Critics of the move say it is unacceptable for Eswatini to be treated as a “dumping ground” for people considered unfit to live in the US.’


The only depraved monsters are Trump and anyone who supports this reprehensible policy.
Their leadership made the deal, the people should take it up with their leaders who were probably paid handsomely to import the five guys.

The policy is a law that was instituted long before Trump was sworn in.

More fake outrage.
 
I mean what I said.
Well then you are gonna have lots of precooked disagreeing with you unless you can show the numbers. This is the only country I can think of that spends more money on illegal aliens than fellow citizens. It’s a shame and a disgrace.
 
At least African nations that are willing to lock them up can have a taste of the greatness of diversity that Democrats have been bragging about.
 
Well then you are gonna have lots of precooked disagreeing with you unless you can show the numbers. This is the only country I can think of that spends more money on illegal aliens than fellow citizens. It’s a shame and a disgrace.

Business gets what business wants.
 
‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States, after its government confirmed that migrants described by a Department of Homeland security spokesperson as “depraved monsters” had been sent to its prisons.

Roughly the size of New Jersey, Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is governed by a monarch who has absolute power. On Wednesday, officials said that five deportees from the US were now being held in isolated units in its jails, acknowledging “widespread concern” but insisting the deported men “pose no threat to the country or its citizens.”

The deportation, according to a statement by acting government spokesperson Thabile Mdluli, was the “result of months of robust high-level engagements” between the US and the southern African nation.

Critics of the move say it is unacceptable for Eswatini to be treated as a “dumping ground” for people considered unfit to live in the US.’


The only depraved monsters are Trump and anyone who supports this reprehensible policy.

If some people in Eswatini don't want them, why the **** should we have to keep them? Let the Eswatini government work out a deal with the illegal's countries of origin.
 
If some people in Eswatini don't want them, why the **** should we have to keep them? Let the Eswatini government work out a deal with the illegal's countries of origin.
I have a better idea. Ask them where did the enter the US illegally. If the answer is Mexico, load them on a chopper and drop them off in Mexico. Trump doesn’t need Mexico’s consent as Mexico facilitated the illegal crossing.
 
We can argue prison conditions in a proper thread but if they are bad as proclaimed they should be tried, convicted and held where we know they won't just be released.
If your idea is that we put these people who arent even in the country legally, and who are so violent and unmanageable that their own countries wont take them, in U.S. prisons with U.S. citizens who have a right not to be exposed to them? Then absolutely prison conditions are the topic.

I see you dropped the cost argument.
 
If your idea is that we put these people who arent even in the country legally, and who are so violent and unmanageable that their own countries wont take them, in U.S. prisons with U.S. citizens who have a right not to be exposed to them? Then absolutely prison conditions are the topic.

I see you dropped the cost argument.

If they committed crimes in the US as stated, yes, they seve their time in US prison.
 
If they committed crimes in the US as stated, yes, they seve their time in US prison.
So, you dont care about the safety of U.S. prisons?

What if they committed heinous crimes in their own country but not here?

They get to stay?
 
So, you dont care about the safety of U.S. prisons?

What if they committed heinous crimes in their own country but not here?

They get to stay?


I didn't say they should just stay. I said if their crimes were done here like the Trump administration claimed, they serve their time here.
 
I didn't say they should just stay. I said if their crimes were done here like the Trump administration claimed, they serve their time here.
Yeah, I know what you didn't say. What do you say?

A person committed heinous crimes in their country and their country won't take them back. We cannot prove any crimes in the U.S., yet.

Where do they go, since you agree they cannot stay?

You seem to have a really hard time answering questions. This is the reason Democrats and "not Democrats" won't be winning the White House anytime soon. Nobody falls for the constant criticism with no alternative plan.
 
Yeah, I know what you didn't say. What do you say?

A person committed heinous crimes in their country and their country won't take them back. We cannot prove any crimes in the U.S., yet.

Where do they go, since you agree they cannot stay?

You seem to have a really hard time answering questions. This is the reason Democrats and "not Democrats" won't be winning the White House anytime soon. Nobody falls for the constant criticism with no alternative plan.

I know of NO instances where a country won't take one of their citizens back.

So my answer is we send them back to their country.
 
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‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States, after its government confirmed that migrants described by a Department of Homeland security spokesperson as “depraved monsters” had been sent to its prisons.

Roughly the size of New Jersey, Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is governed by a monarch who has absolute power. On Wednesday, officials said that five deportees from the US were now being held in isolated units in its jails, acknowledging “widespread concern” but insisting the deported men “pose no threat to the country or its citizens.”

The deportation, according to a statement by acting government spokesperson Thabile Mdluli, was the “result of months of robust high-level engagements” between the US and the southern African nation.

Critics of the move say it is unacceptable for Eswatini to be treated as a “dumping ground” for people considered unfit to live in the US.’


The only depraved monsters are Trump and anyone who supports this reprehensible policy.
The battling commies vs king scrotus & his battling monarchy can both use the reinforcements for gun fodder.
 
‘Across Africa, and in the tiny nation of Eswatini, fury has erupted over the arrival of foreign deportees from the United States, after its government confirmed that migrants described by a Department of Homeland security spokesperson as “depraved monsters” had been sent to its prisons.

Roughly the size of New Jersey, Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is governed by a monarch who has absolute power. On Wednesday, officials said that five deportees from the US were now being held in isolated units in its jails, acknowledging “widespread concern” but insisting the deported men “pose no threat to the country or its citizens.”

The deportation, according to a statement by acting government spokesperson Thabile Mdluli, was the “result of months of robust high-level engagements” between the US and the southern African nation.

Critics of the move say it is unacceptable for Eswatini to be treated as a “dumping ground” for people considered unfit to live in the US.’


The only depraved monsters are Trump and anyone who supports this reprehensible policy.
Eswatini - Win
USA - Win
Thugs - Lose

WTF could be possibly wrong with that?
 
I know of NO instances where a country won't take one of their citizens back.

So my answer is we send them back to their country.
I find it hard to believe that you are sincere in your claim not to know that certain countries have refused to take back their own citizens. How can you debate an issue on which you are so ignorant?

 
I find it hard to believe that you are sincere in your claim not to know that certain countries have refused to take back their own citizens. How can you debate an issue on which you are so ignorant?


Your article is from before Trump took over and statements of concern over Trumps words.
 
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