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North Korea should change

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Hwang, the former secretary of the communist party of NK, defected to South Korea in April, 1997.

He was the creator of the Juche ideology and held the highest position in the North Korean political circle. Yet he left North Korea and has been blaming the country till now.

He visited US, Japan and told the people that the North Korean regime starved 3million to death.This is why North Korea sent assassins to shut Hwang up.
These elite special force agents entered South Korea on April 20th disguised as North Korean defectors.North Korean was known for consistently sending assassins to kill Hwang.

I guess North Korea was afraid of Hwang telling the world the truth about North Korea.Thousands of people are still trying to escape from North Korea and go to other places to survive. The defectors all say the North Korean regime oppresses people.

This is the reason why the international community doesn't trust North Korea and South Korea is unwilling to fully commit to helping its brethren country. North Korea should change.
 

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Of course North Korea should change.

But they are not going to until they get a kemche cabbage whooping. That much is clear now after 50 years of absolute tyranny sponsored by China.

That is just the way it is.

This should make any free person appreciate the veterans of the "forgotten war", those who risked their lives and died so that South Korea could be a free, prosperous nation rather than the toy of the tyrant Kim Jung Mentally Il.
 

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North Korea will change and change soon

Once Kim Jung Il is gone there will be a coup or a revolution.

China and Russia don't want to be their sugar daddies anymore. They will collapse under their own mismanagement
 

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Shit like this doesn't help them

South Korean minister: Torpedo likely sank warship - USATODAY.com

SEOUL (AP) — An explosion from a torpedo likely sank a South Korean warship that went down near the tense border with North Korea last month, the South's defense minister said Sunday amid growing speculation Pyongyang may be behind the blast.
Defense Minister Kim Tae-young said the most likely cause of the disaster was a torpedo exploding near the ship, with the force of the underwater blast ripping the vessel apart. Investigators who examined salvaged wreckage separately announced Sunday that a close-range, external explosion likely sank it.

"Basically, I think the bubble jet effect caused by a heavy torpedo is the most likely" cause for the blast, Kim told reporters.

Kim, however, did not speculate on who may have fired it and said an investigation was ongoing and it's still too early to determine the cause.

Seoul has not directly blamed North Korea for the blast, and Pyongyang has denied its involvement, but suspicion remains given the country's history of provocation and attacks on the South. Local media have increasingly been speculating the disaster was due to a North Korean attack.
 
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The real dangers that exist are that the North believes their own press, and they have nukes.

And the south is too concentratded in Soeul. I think there are 12 million in that city in a really small space.

Dear Leader is just stupid enough to try something.

And the fact 0bama is such a sh1t makes it much more likely.

I think the best thing for South Korea right now would be to expel the US military, because of the commander in Chief. I think the ROK military is good enough now they can take care of the problem on their own. Dear Leader now has 50,000 hostages. Bad all around
 

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The real dangers that exist are that the North believes their own press, and they have nukes.

And the south is too concentratded in Soeul. I think there are 12 million in that city in a really small space.

Dear Leader is just stupid enough to try something.

And the fact 0bama is such a sh1t makes it much more likely.

I think the best thing for South Korea right now would be to expel the US military, because of the commander in Chief. I think the ROK military is good enough now they can take care of the problem on their own. Dear Leader now has 50,000 hostages. Bad all around

The ROK still provides the manpower...we provide the technology

If the North were to ever attempt anything they would be destroyed by the South. The North lacks the economy to conduct and sustain a major war
 

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Granny says, "Dat's right - China needs to be told if dey won't reign in Fatboy, Trump will...
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China voices concern about North Korea statements on ICBM test
Jan. 9, 2017 -- China expressed concerns regarding North Korea's repeated threats to test-launch an intercontinental ballistic missile, according to Xinhua news agency.
Beijing is taking the statements seriously, including the most recent announcement issued Sunday that reiterated an earlier statement Kim Jong Un made during his New Year's speech. On New Year's Day Kim said the country had reached the last stage of preparing a test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile that may be capable of targeting the U.S. mainland. Pyongyang said the launch would take place at an arbitrary time and place determined by Kim. The statement has raised the threat level in South Korea, where the military is monitoring the situation.

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Lu Kang, China's foreign ministry spokesman, told reporters Monday that Beijing fears a situation that only escalates tensions in the region. "The United Nations Security Council has clear rules for North Korea regarding its use of ICBM technology to test missiles," Lu said. "In this complex and sensitive situation, China asks all relevant parties to not engage in acts that will raise tensions." The spokesman also said China is closely watching for new developments, and that the country is ready to play its "given role" for the sake of peace and stability in the region.

Lu's statements on Monday was in part a response to remarks U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday. Carter had said North Korea's nuclear and missile programs are a "serious threat" that it would shoot down any missile if aimed at "us" as well as "friends or allies." The latter statement has raised Beijing's concerns, according to Yonhap.

China voices concern about North Korea statements on ICBM test

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U.S. says it's confident it can deter North Korean missiles
Jan. 9, 2017 -- The United States is confident it can fully deter incoming North Korean missiles despite the increased volume of threats from Pyongyang about a future launch.
U.S. State Department spokesman Justin Higgins told Yonhap news agency Sunday the "United States is capable of defending against a North Korean ballistic missile attack." "Our recent success in returning to test the upgraded version of the ground-based interceptor will keep us on a good trajectory to improve our defensive capability against limited ballistic missile threats, such as that from North Korea," Higgins said. "We are continuing to upgrade our ballistic missile defense capability." Higgins said North Korea should return to negotiations while meeting its international obligations to neither test ballistic missiles nor conduct nuclear tests, according to the report.

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The spokesman also voiced support for sanctions. "In targeting the Kim regime's reputation and sources of revenue, we continue to steadily tighten sanctions in an effort to compel the regime to return to credible negotiations on denuclearization," Higgins said. On Sunday North Korea reiterated an earlier statement Kim Jong Un made during his New Year's speech, warning that the country had reached the last stage of preparing a test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile that may be capable of targeting the U.S. mainland.

In Seoul, military officials say they cannot rule out the possibility Pyongyang could launch either the KN-08 or the KN-14 ballistic missiles, adding that they are "closely monitoring the situation," local news service Newsis reported. Both the KN-08 and KN-14 are road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missiles. The KN-08 has a range of 7,500 miles, and the KN-14 is estimated to have a range between 5,600 and 6,200 miles, according to the report. Analysts believe the North's test-launches of intermediate-range ballistic missiles, the Musudan, were proxy tests to verify ICBM launch capability.

U.S. says it's confident it can deter North Korean missiles
 

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Not much hope for No. Korean denuclearization...
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North Korea defector says Kim Jong Un unlikely to denuclearize
Feb. 9, 2017 - The North Korean leader could bring war if he suspected plans of a pre-emptive strike, said Thae Yong-ho.
The senior North Korea diplomat who defected to the South from Pyongyang's embassy in London said it is unlikely North Korea would pursue the path of denuclearization, owing to "internal factors" of the regime and U.S.-South Korea requirements for engagement. Thae Yong-ho, who has been providing the local press with revelations about the North Korean leadership since his defection, said Kim Jong Un could agree to a nuclear freeze but on the condition of suspended sanctions and an end to military exercises.

Speaking at a conference on regional security held by the government-run Institute for National Security Strategy, Thae said it's likely neither Washington nor Seoul would meet those demands, local news service Money Today reported Thursday. Even if North Korea agrees to a nuclear freeze, a final stage of denuclearization may not be achieved because of Kim's beliefs. "Whether it's Kim Jong Un or Kim Jong Il, they have seen the last days of other dictators," Thae said. "[They saw] there are no dictators who survive."

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A magazine features the North Korean leadership on its cover in Beijing, China. A high-profile defector said Thursday Kim Jong Un is wary of what would happen to him in the event of a North Korea collapse.​

Thae added Kim is not afraid to bring about a cataclysm to the peninsula with a "If I die, you die too" frame of mind, should he be convinced the United States and South Korea are planning a pre-emptive strike. North Korean officials who object to the nuclear program are quickly eliminated, Thae said.

The high-profile defector also said the 1994 Agreed Framework, a nuclear freeze agreement reached between the United States and North Korea, was not a deal North Korea believed in, local news service EDaily reported. Rather, the deal was seen as a way for Kim Jong Il to "buy time and postpone a U.S. strike," while the former leader prepared a road map to stabilize North Korea in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

North Korea defector says Kim Jong Un unlikely to denuclearize - UPI.com

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North Korea secretly producing highly enriched uranium, analyst says
Feb. 8, 2017 -- North Korea could have about 100 pounds of plutonium and 600 pounds of highly enriched uranium in its arsenal, a South Korean analyst said Thursday, local time.
Lee Sang-hyun, a chief researcher at the Sejong Institute, a South Korean think tank, said at a conference in Seoul North Korea could have been secretly producing highly enriched uranium, or HEU, while staying relatively undetected, Yonhap reported. HEU can be produced in small-scale facilities, unlike plutonium that requires larger stations like nuclear reactors, Lee said. Lee said his findings indicate North Korea can produce about 13 pounds of plutonium annually, while its cache of HEU increases by 176 pounds every year.

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Under leader Kim Jong Un, North Korea has been producing significant amounts of fissile material, a South Korean analyst said​

The South Korean researcher said it typically takes 4-13 pounds of plutonium to produce a nuclear warhead, and 33-44 pounds of HEU to make a similar payload. "North Korea appears to have used HEU in its fifth nuclear test [last September], and the demonstration of a relatively strong explosive power can mean the country has produced enough HEU," Lee said. The amount of fissile material in North Korea's possession means it is at an advantage when miniaturizing nuclear warheads. The country can produce more nuclear weapons with smaller quantities of nuclear material, the researcher said. Lee said "pressure diplomacy" must be strengthened while making it known to the North the objective is not the collapse or the removal of the regime.

Park Byung-kwan, a director at government-run Institute for National Security Strategy, said he is concerned about the "void in South Korean leadership." Park also said North Korea could go ahead with the test-launch of a long-range missile if Pyongyang decides it did not make a breakthrough in U.S.-North Korea relations with the new Trump administration. North Korea has previously requested a peace treaty from the United States, and recognition as a nuclear weapons state.

North Korea secretly producing highly enriched uranium, analyst says - UPI.com
 

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Hwang, the former secretary of the communist party of NK, defected to South Korea in April, 1997.

He was the creator of the Juche ideology and held the highest position in the North Korean political circle. Yet he left North Korea and has been blaming the country till now.

He visited US, Japan and told the people that the North Korean regime starved 3million to death.This is why North Korea sent assassins to shut Hwang up.
These elite special force agents entered South Korea on April 20th disguised as North Korean defectors.North Korean was known for consistently sending assassins to kill Hwang.

I guess North Korea was afraid of Hwang telling the world the truth about North Korea.Thousands of people are still trying to escape from North Korea and go to other places to survive. The defectors all say the North Korean regime oppresses people.

This is the reason why the international community doesn't trust North Korea and South Korea is unwilling to fully commit to helping its brethren country. North Korea should change.

Well the US should change too, isn't it up to the people of North Korea to change themselves?
 

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Fatboy's Cyberthugs Behind Global Attacks...
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Report: North Korean Hackers Behind Global Attacks
March 16, 2017 — A North Korean hacking group known as Lazarus was likely behind a recent cyber campaign targeting organizations in 31 countries, following high-profile attacks on Bangladesh Bank, Sony and South Korea, cybersecurity firm Symantec Corp said Wednesday.
Symantec said in a blog that researchers have uncovered four pieces of digital evidence suggesting the Lazarus group was behind the campaign that sought to infect victims with “loader” software used to stage attacks by installing other malicious programs. “We are reasonably certain” Lazarus was responsible, Symantec researcher Eric Chien said in an interview.

North Korea denies involvement

The North Korean government has denied allegations it was involved in the hacks, which were made by officials in Washington and Seoul, as well as security firms. U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation representatives could not immediately be reached for comment. Symantec did not identify targeted organizations and said it did not know if any money had been stolen. Nonetheless, Symantec said the claim was significant because the group used a more sophisticated targeting approach than in previous campaigns. “This represents a significant escalation of the threat,” said Dan Guido, chief executive of Trail of Bits, which does consulting to banks and the U.S. government.

History of hacks

Lazarus has been blamed for a string of hacks dating back to at least 2009, including last year’s $81 million heist from Bangladesh’s central bank, the 2014 hack of Sony Pictures Entertainment that crippled its network for weeks and a long-running campaign against organizations in South Korea. Guido, who reviewed Symantec’s finding, said that it was troubling to see a hacking group focus on attacking banks using increasingly sophisticated techniques. “This is a dangerous development,” he said. Symantec, which has one of the world’s largest teams of malware researchers, regularly analyzes emerging cyberthreats to help defend businesses, governments and consumers that use its security products.

Latest attacks surfaced in Poland

The firm analyzed the hacking campaign last month when news surfaced that Polish banks had been infected with malware. At the time, Symantec said it had weak evidence to blame Lazarus. Reuters has been unable to ascertain what happened in that attack. Poland’s biggest bank lobbying group, ZBP, in February said the sector was targeted in a cyberattack but did not provide further details. Government authorities declined comment on the incident. Authorities in Poland could not be reached for comment late Wednesday.

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Symantec makes a presentation at the RSA Conference in San Francisco, April 22, 2015. The company says it has evidence that North Korean hackers are behind recent attacks in 31 countries.​

Symantec said the latest campaign was launched by infecting websites that intended victims were likely to visit, which is known as a “watering hole” attack. The malware was programmed to only infect visitors whose IP address showed they were from 104 specific organizations in 31 countries, according to Symantec. The largest number were in Poland, followed by the United States, Mexico, Brazil and Chile.

Report: North Korean Hackers Behind Global Attacks
 

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It is highly possible that the US military and relevant allies will conduct a massive military operation that will cause the North to collapse. The primary target will of course be its clinically insane leader aka Cow Dung Poop.

Either way, I hope the NORAD missile defense system is operational and can be trusted. If he survives the initial attack and attempt on his life, the genocidal maniac will definitely lash out by sending a barrage of missiles, possibly even nuclear tipped, towards the US mainland. He does that and all bets will be off, the US will take its gloves off and show the devastation and destruction that it is truly capable of. It will be one of the most brutal, lopsided victories in the history of warfare.
 
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It is highly possible that the US military and relevant allies will conduct a massive military operation that will cause the North to collapse. The primary target will of course be its clinically insane leader aka Cow Dung Poop.

Either way, I hope the NORAD missile defense system is operational and can be trusted. If he survives the initial attack and attempt on his life, the genocidal maniac will definitely lash out by sending a barrage of missiles, possibly even nuclear tipped, towards the US mainland. He does that and all bets will be off, the US will take its gloves off and show the devastation and destruction that it is truly capable of. It will be one of the most brutal, lopsided victories in the history of warfare.
N.Korea does not have this capability yet.

What they WILL do however is bomb the sh!t out of Seoul with artillery if the US strikes N.Korea.

Different problem.
 

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It is highly possible that the US military and relevant allies will conduct a massive military operation that will cause the North to collapse. The primary target will of course be its clinically insane leader aka Cow Dung Poop.

Either way, I hope the NORAD missile defense system is operational and can be trusted. If he survives the initial attack and attempt on his life, the genocidal maniac will definitely lash out by sending a barrage of missiles, possibly even nuclear tipped, towards the US mainland. He does that and all bets will be off, the US will take its gloves off and show the devastation and destruction that it is truly capable of. It will be one of the most brutal, lopsided victories in the history of warfare.
As I have already posted: The US knows where the Pervert is located 24/7. There are SK spies everywhere in NK.
ONE MOAB dropped from 50K feet by a Stealth bomber on top of 'Lill Pervert's' head and the entire NK C&C is destroyed.
The thousands of Generals will never dare even call the Perverts Palace. They will all suspect the Pervert is testing their loyalty.
The entire NK military will literally stand at attention until they starve to death.
The ONLY reason the Chinese has allowed the NK mental cases to still exist is because the Chinese hate Koreans more than they hate negroes and Japanese and 'Westerners' and Eskimos and Samoens. Have I left any ethnic group out?
The chinese don't want the "filthy Koreans" allowed into China.
 

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It is highly possible that the US military and relevant allies will conduct a massive military operation that will cause the North to collapse. The primary target will of course be its clinically insane leader aka Cow Dung Poop.

Either way, I hope the NORAD missile defense system is operational and can be trusted. If he survives the initial attack and attempt on his life, the genocidal maniac will definitely lash out by sending a barrage of missiles, possibly even nuclear tipped, towards the US mainland. He does that and all bets will be off, the US will take its gloves off and show the devastation and destruction that it is truly capable of. It will be one of the most brutal, lopsided victories in the history of warfare.
N.Korea does not have this capability yet.

What they WILL do however is bomb the sh!t out of Seoul with artillery if the US strikes N.Korea.

Different problem.
They have missiles that can reach the US mainland, including those that can be launched from submarines, which we supposedly have the capability of defending against. Yes, it is doubtful that their missiles have nuclear capability. At this point, even the Chinese will be on board with military action as a last resort, as the N Korean regime is turning into more of a liability for them. It is obvious that the Chinese do not have the ability to influence the unhinged madman any longer.
 

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It is highly possible that the US military and relevant allies will conduct a massive military operation that will cause the North to collapse. The primary target will of course be its clinically insane leader aka Cow Dung Poop.

Either way, I hope the NORAD missile defense system is operational and can be trusted. If he survives the initial attack and attempt on his life, the genocidal maniac will definitely lash out by sending a barrage of missiles, possibly even nuclear tipped, towards the US mainland. He does that and all bets will be off, the US will take its gloves off and show the devastation and destruction that it is truly capable of. It will be one of the most brutal, lopsided victories in the history of warfare.
As I have already posted: The US knows where the Pervert is located 24/7. There are SK spies everywhere in NK.
ONE MOAB dropped from 50K feet by a Stealth bomber on top of 'Lill Pervert's' head and the entire NK C&C is destroyed.
The thousands of Generals will never dare even call the Perverts Palace. They will all suspect the Pervert is testing their loyalty.
The entire NK military will literally stand at attention until they starve to death.
The ONLY reason the Chinese has allowed the NK mental cases to still exist is because the Chinese hate Koreans more than they hate negroes and Japanese and 'Westerners' and Eskimos and Samoens. Have I left any ethnic group out?
The chinese don't want the "filthy Koreans" allowed into China.
Agreed, which is why it's critical that the initial strike on the madman should yield the desired results. If he isn't taken out, we are talking about many dead people on both sides of the Korean Peninsula and missiles heading towards the US.
 

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Folks, the world is running out of oil and soon thereafter natural gas in amounts we can rely on as our energy source. Nuclear electric energy is our future sustainable energy source.

Having said that we need all the existing centrifuges we can make as well as all the uranium we can find to run these electric nuclear generation plants.

The world needs to “buy” North Korea’s enriched uranium giving North Korea a good money source to improve the living standards of their country.

Anyone here agree or disagree?
 

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