And the Navy has high resolution cameras, funny how everyone in the Navy was too stupid to turn one of them on so that we get an image that was state of the art in 1900
No real evidence the UFOs are real ??
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Not if we get to you first.
Lol almost as blurry as your iq
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Which only leaves an infinite amount of possibilities....
Stryder50
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I'd hesitate to say "infinite", but multiple might be more accurate.
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EXCERPTS ...
The astrophysicist said this suggests two scenarios: That UAPs are natural phenomena; or that they are "extraterrestrial in origin."
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The New York Times also said an unclassified version of the report is expected to be released to Congress by June 25—though it will include a classified annex that would remain off-limits to the public.
The report is not expected to explain all of the mysterious observed characteristics of UAPs, including their acceleration and ability to change direction quickly.
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If not this thread, than in others similar, I believe I've suggested a couple of useful books for more information;
Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis Paperback – December 1, 1995
by Paul R. Hill (Author), Robert M. Wood (Foreword)
Amazon product ASIN 1571740279...
Synopsis of "Unconventional Flying Objects"
Paul Hill
www.philgawen.com
The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology Paperback – August 12, 2003
by Nick Cook (Author)
Amazon product ASIN 0767906284~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There is no single explaination for all UFO~UAP.
toobfreak
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Excuse me Q44, I know you're not very bright as per your IQ thread but I have to ask: why do you think there should be "high resolution" photos of any UFOs? Do you think they are something just sitting around like a tree?
If UFOs are real, and it is getting difficult to deny them, they are devices tapping an energy source from the infinite cosmos able to fold space and jump dimensions. They become massless. Zero mass equals non-existance or pure energy. They can travel faster than light meaning they are in two places at once. That means they are never wholly in or out of our frame of reference. Last I checked, Kodak had no ASA or ISO number film made to record that.
We have no idea what these UFOs are doing whizzing around the skies.
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Yes, there have always existed unidentified objects. If you are pretending to know what they are, then say so.
Stryder50
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This is they usual MSM hype and distortion, but it is the current disinformation, so ...
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The latest report hardly represents the first time the U.S. has undertaken an investigation into unidentified flying objects. The Defense Department in the 1950s began Project Blue Book, led by the Air Force and headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Though it analyzed thousands of sightings, it was ultimately terminated in 1969. A team at the University of Colorado led by physicist Edward Condon tasked with studying its findings ultimately dismissed the whole enterprise, concluding that any study of UFOs was unlikely to produce major scientific discoveries.
Ufologists who spoke with U.S. News seethed when discussing that subsequent "Condon Report," with one calling it an "egregious misrepresentation of the Blue Book study." And though many expressed disappointment at initial findings of the latest review that indicate few surprises, many have been startled by the sudden embrace by a Western power into a subject once relegated to fantasy shows like "The X-Files."
"The governments that have been the least open concerning UAP have been the 'Five Eyes' – USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and England," says Robert Spearing, director of international investigations for the Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, which considers itself one of the largest and oldest of its kind.
Spearing refers to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, a term the Pentagon has subsequently embraced for its contributions to the report led by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence – surely in an attempt to distance the military bureaucracy from the popular assumption that "UFO" implies something otherworldly.
"At times they have, at least publicly, mocked the idea something was going on," says Spearing, who is based in Costa Rica. "The abrupt turnaround in attitude and release of information now has been startling."
But he expresses disappointment at the information leaked so far, which he says will show the government hasn't delved as deeply as it could into what he believes it knows about unidentified aircraft.
"I personally know there are thousands of military cases they could analyze from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, et cetera, submitted to MUFON and other entities by reliable soldiers and sailors and pilots over the decades," he adds. "Why such a narrow scope, then, for this report?"
The report itself came at the direction of a group of senators, including Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who, as the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, requested the report in December through a provision in the Intelligence Authorization Act. A series of sightings the Navy confirmed in recent months prompted the legislature to order the review, chiefly focused on whether these incidents represent a national security threat from unknown Russian or Chinese technology, or something else.
Those who have followed other governments' reviews into UFOs say they often have a military bent, part of the reason why many have remained classified. Because similar reviews in Brazil, Britain, France, Spain and others were driven by national security concerns, the resulting reports have been equally restricted and classified as such. Those who track these investigations say that lens must change.
"There continues to be a vital need for the civilian scientific study of UFOs," says Peter Whitley, a UFO researcher based in Japan and also a member of MUFON. "The public may be surprised to find out just how much research is being conducted by public organizations such as MUFON into uncovering the mysteries behind these sightings. While new discoveries continue to be made, we are at a point now where we can paint an accurate picture of a typical sighting based on the wealth of data accumulated over the years.
"Certain aspects of these sightings are so consistent on a global scale," he says, "it is indisputable that this is a physically real phenomenon worldwide and not simply the result of media influence or cultural bias."
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See also:
The U.S. Is About to Change the Way the World Thinks About UFOs
EXCERPT...
The latest report hardly represents the first time the U.S. has undertaken an investigation into unidentified flying objects. The Defense Department in the 1950s began Project Blue Book, led by the Air Force and headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Though it analyzed thousands of sightings, it was ultimately terminated in 1969. A team at the University of Colorado led by physicist Edward Condon tasked with studying its findings ultimately dismissed the whole enterprise, concluding that any study of UFOs was unlikely to produce major scientific discoveries.
Ufologists who spoke with U.S. News seethed when discussing that subsequent "Condon Report," with one calling it an "egregious misrepresentation of the Blue Book study." And though many expressed disappointment at initial findings of the latest review that indicate few surprises, many have been startled by the sudden embrace by a Western power into a subject once relegated to fantasy shows like "The X-Files."
"The governments that have been the least open concerning UAP have been the 'Five Eyes' – USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and England," says Robert Spearing, director of international investigations for the Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, which considers itself one of the largest and oldest of its kind.
Spearing refers to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, a term the Pentagon has subsequently embraced for its contributions to the report led by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence – surely in an attempt to distance the military bureaucracy from the popular assumption that "UFO" implies something otherworldly.
"At times they have, at least publicly, mocked the idea something was going on," says Spearing, who is based in Costa Rica. "The abrupt turnaround in attitude and release of information now has been startling."
But he expresses disappointment at the information leaked so far, which he says will show the government hasn't delved as deeply as it could into what he believes it knows about unidentified aircraft.
"I personally know there are thousands of military cases they could analyze from Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, et cetera, submitted to MUFON and other entities by reliable soldiers and sailors and pilots over the decades," he adds. "Why such a narrow scope, then, for this report?"
The report itself came at the direction of a group of senators, including Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who, as the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, requested the report in December through a provision in the Intelligence Authorization Act. A series of sightings the Navy confirmed in recent months prompted the legislature to order the review, chiefly focused on whether these incidents represent a national security threat from unknown Russian or Chinese technology, or something else.
Those who have followed other governments' reviews into UFOs say they often have a military bent, part of the reason why many have remained classified. Because similar reviews in Brazil, Britain, France, Spain and others were driven by national security concerns, the resulting reports have been equally restricted and classified as such. Those who track these investigations say that lens must change.
"There continues to be a vital need for the civilian scientific study of UFOs," says Peter Whitley, a UFO researcher based in Japan and also a member of MUFON. "The public may be surprised to find out just how much research is being conducted by public organizations such as MUFON into uncovering the mysteries behind these sightings. While new discoveries continue to be made, we are at a point now where we can paint an accurate picture of a typical sighting based on the wealth of data accumulated over the years.
"Certain aspects of these sightings are so consistent on a global scale," he says, "it is indisputable that this is a physically real phenomenon worldwide and not simply the result of media influence or cultural bias."
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See also:
Pentagon UFO Report Videos Reveal Mysterious Objects That Baffled U.S. Military
Stryder50
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A somewhat different take ....
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After a great deal of speculation, the Department of Defense and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have released a long-awaited report about their investigations into unidentified flying objects. The unclassified document, called “Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena,” examined 144 incidents that occured between November, 2004 and March, 2021 in which military pilots encountered something they couldn’t explain. Promoters of the ideas that UFOs represent something beyond this world have been hyping up the release for months.
In only one case was the $22 million report able to deduce an exact nature of what their pilots saw with high confidence—it was a large, deflating balloon. But it also concludes that the majority of the other incidents can be traced back to some terrestrial cause, such as airborne debris, natural atmospheric phenomena like ice crystals, or flight vehicles from the US or other countries. But by their very nature, most of the reported cases are difficult to identify.
“The limited amount of high-quality reporting on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) hampers our ability to draw firm conclusions about the nature or intent of UAP,” wrote the authors, using the military’s preferred parlance.
Today’s report is the culmination of a program known as the The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, set up in 2007, whose existence was made public in a front page story in the New York Times in 2017. Though it contains no indication that any of its incidents could have been caused by things not of this Earth, it will be seen as a major victory by those who have been pushing for increased government disclosures about strange lights in the skies.
“No question, this is the story of the millennium,” says former CIA officer Jim Semivan, who helps run To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, a company that researches UFOs and other unexplained phenomena. “This is going to reorder our consensus reality.”
His partner at To the Stars, Tom DeLonge (yes, from the punk-pop band Blink-182), agrees. “There’s no putting the genie back in the bottle,” DeLonge says.
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www.wired.com
What the Pentagon’s New UFO Report Reveals About Humankind
The document says less about the search for life in the universe, and more about our current cultural climate and distrust of expertise....
After a great deal of speculation, the Department of Defense and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have released a long-awaited report about their investigations into unidentified flying objects. The unclassified document, called “Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena,” examined 144 incidents that occured between November, 2004 and March, 2021 in which military pilots encountered something they couldn’t explain. Promoters of the ideas that UFOs represent something beyond this world have been hyping up the release for months.
In only one case was the $22 million report able to deduce an exact nature of what their pilots saw with high confidence—it was a large, deflating balloon. But it also concludes that the majority of the other incidents can be traced back to some terrestrial cause, such as airborne debris, natural atmospheric phenomena like ice crystals, or flight vehicles from the US or other countries. But by their very nature, most of the reported cases are difficult to identify.
“The limited amount of high-quality reporting on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) hampers our ability to draw firm conclusions about the nature or intent of UAP,” wrote the authors, using the military’s preferred parlance.
Today’s report is the culmination of a program known as the The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, set up in 2007, whose existence was made public in a front page story in the New York Times in 2017. Though it contains no indication that any of its incidents could have been caused by things not of this Earth, it will be seen as a major victory by those who have been pushing for increased government disclosures about strange lights in the skies.
“No question, this is the story of the millennium,” says former CIA officer Jim Semivan, who helps run To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, a company that researches UFOs and other unexplained phenomena. “This is going to reorder our consensus reality.”
His partner at To the Stars, Tom DeLonge (yes, from the punk-pop band Blink-182), agrees. “There’s no putting the genie back in the bottle,” DeLonge says.
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What the Pentagonâs New UFO Report Reveals About Humankind
The document says less about the search for life in the universe, and more about our current cultural climate and distrust of expertise.
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They're basically rolling with the UFO narrative in order to get the arms race rolling again. This time they're looking for full spectrum dominance from above the planet. Certainly imperialists and war profiteers are licking their chops as the whole UFO narrative will ikely render them the funding they need and the media will likely only have to run minimal interference for them in promoting the UFO gag.
I dunno how gullible they think people are, but it's clear what they're up to.
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UFO report: US finds no explanation for sightings
...The US government has said it has no explanation for dozens of unidentified flying objects seen by military pilots.
A Pentagon report released on Friday says of 144 reports made about the phenomena since 2004, all but one remain unexplained.
It does not rule out the possibility that the objects are extra-terrestrial.
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The interim report released on Friday said most of the 144 reported cases of the "unidentified aerial phenomena" (UAP), came in the last two years, after the US Navy put in place a standardised reporting mechanism.
In 143 of the reported cases, they "lack sufficient information in our dataset to attribute incidents to specific explanations".
Crucially, it said there were "no clear indications that there is any non-terrestrial explanation" for the aircraft, but also did not rule it out.
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UAP "probably lack a single explanation", the report said. Some could be technologies from another nation like China or Russia, others could be natural atmospheric phenomena like ice crystals that could register on radar systems, while the report also suggested some could be "attributable to developments and classified programs by US entities".
The one case they could identify "with high confidence" was identified as "a large, deflating balloon", the report said.
It added that the UAP posed "a clear safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to US national security".
The taskforce is now "looking for novel ways to increase collection" of reports and gather more information, adding that "additional funding" could "further study of the topics laid out in this report".
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UFO report: US finds no explanation for sightings
A Pentagon report says it can only explain one of 144 sightings made by the US military since 2004.
www.bbc.com
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Americans:
"There is no explanation for these phenomena! Therefore, we know the explanation!"
"There is no explanation for these phenomena! Therefore, we know the explanation!"
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UFOs display tech US doesn’t have and can’t defend against, ex-intelligence chief Ratcliffe says
...UFOs exist that appear to display technology the United States does not possess and lacks the ability to defend against, according to a former intelligence chief.
John Ratcliffe, who served as former President Donald Trump’s final director of national intelligence and oversaw the nation’s 18 spy agencies, made the observation while offering insight into a declassified report on “unidentified aerial phenomena,” which was released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Friday.
The long-anticipated but very brief document discussed 144 reports of UFOs originating from U.S. government sources between 2004 and 2021. Eighty were observed with multiple different sensors, and most reports described the UFOs as objects that interrupted preplanned military training or other military operations. The ODNI report said “a handful” of the UFOs “appear to demonstrate advanced technology” and “in 18 incidents, described in 21 reports, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics.” Parts of the assessment also remain classified.
In giving his first public reaction to the unclassified ODNI report since its release, Ratcliffe told Fox News host Dan Bongino for a Saturday episode of Unfiltered that UFOs are a matter of national security and stressed that the real number of UFOs that have been observed remains unknown to the public.
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The ODNI declined to draw firm conclusions on the UFOs themselves.
"There are probably multiple types of UAP requiring different explanations based on the range of appearances and behaviors described in the available reporting," the intelligence community assessment contended. "Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, U.S. government or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall 'other' bin."
The intelligence community warned that “some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity.” And when discussing its “other” category, the ODNI stated: “We would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management.”
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Stryder50
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8 takeaways from the government's big UFO report
...On Friday evening the US intelligence community released something remarkable: An unclassified report to Congress of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) aka UFOs.
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Which is a big deal! Especially when you consider that, for decades, the American government totally denied the existence of flying objects that they simply could not identify or, in some situations, explain.
The 9-page report isn't exactly an exhaustive study of UFOs, nor does it confirm or debunk the existence of alien life. And that it was released on a Friday night in the summer is also not an accident in terms of the government doing everything they can to bury the report.
Despite all of that, there were a number of interesting tidbits in the report. I pulled out some key quotes -- and added some context as well. That's below.
1. "Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, USG or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall 'other' bin."
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2. "After carefully considering this information, the UAPTF focused on reports that involved UAP largely witnessed firsthand by military aviators and that were collected from systems we considered to be reliable."
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3. "No standardized reporting mechanism existed until the Navy established one in March 2019. The Air Force subsequently adopted that mechanism in November 2020, but it remains limited to USG reporting."
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4. "[There were] 144 reports originated from USG sources. Of these, 80 reports involved observation with multiple sensors."
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5. "Narratives from aviators in the operational community and analysts from the military and IC describe disparagement associated with observing UAP, reporting it, or attempting to discuss it with colleagues. Although the effects of these stigmas have lessened as senior members of the scientific, policy, military, and intelligence communities engage on the topic seriously in public, reputational risk may keep many observers silent, complicating scientific pursuit of the topic."
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6. "In 18 incidents, described in 21 reports, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings."
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7. "With the exception of the one instance where we determined with high confidence that the reported UAP was airborne clutter, specifically a deflating balloon, we currently lack sufficient information in our dataset to attribute incidents to specific explanations."
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8. "Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them."
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BTW, the report;
READ: US intelligence community's unclassified report on UFOs
The US intelligence community on Friday released its long-awaited report on what it knows about a series of mysterious flying objects that have been seen moving through restricted military airspace over the last several decades.
edition.cnn.com
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So ... explain the Church of Scientology.
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