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No Amendment is Absolute

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When Biden says “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” is he or isn’t he just talking about the Second Amendment?

Just a few:
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion. We've certainly have seen them clamp down on these.

Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.

Abolishes slavery, wonder how many of those illegals coming in would agree in six months.

Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. Sorry ladies, your right may be in jeopardy.

Biden on the Second Amendment: 'No amendment is absolute'

 

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Is that the only rights you know of, you have no idea of the rights that they have been breaking for decades?
 

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With the right amount of votes any amendment can be changed, so no, amendments are not absolute they can be altered. Just like slavery was altered in the Constitution.
 

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When Biden says “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” is he or isn’t he just talking about the Second Amendment?

Just a few:
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion. We've certainly have seen them clamp down on these.

Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.

Abolishes slavery, wonder how many of those illegals coming in would agree in six months.

Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. Sorry ladies, your right may be in jeopardy.

Biden on the Second Amendment: 'No amendment is absolute'

He is using his Free Speech rights to express his opinion by the First Amendment.
 

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Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.
This is a lie.

None of the proposed firearm regulations violate the Second Amendment.

President Biden is correct about no right being ‘absolute’:

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”


Because no right is absolute or unlimited, government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on the exercising of those rights, provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

When government acts in accordance with the Constitution, it is not ‘clamping down’ on citizens’ rights – such a notion is both ignorant and wrong.

When government acts in a manner the people believe violates their rights, they are at liberty to seek relief in the courts to have acts of government repugnant to the Constitution invalidated.

All acts of government are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, in deference to the will of the people as represented by the government they elected.
 

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When Biden says “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” is he or isn’t he just talking about the Second Amendment?

Just a few:
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion. We've certainly have seen them clamp down on these.

Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.

Abolishes slavery, wonder how many of those illegals coming in would agree in six months.

Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. Sorry ladies, your right may be in jeopardy.

Biden on the Second Amendment: 'No amendment is absolute'

I think you forgot the 16th amendment, which made income tax legal....

I wonder how the Fucktard will pay for his schemes if the government's money gets cut off????

Or what the freeloading Democrats will think if they have to get a JOB!!!!!!
 
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Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.
This is a lie.

None of the proposed firearm regulations violate the Second Amendment.

President Biden is correct about no right being ‘absolute’:

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”


Because no right is absolute or unlimited, government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on the exercising of those rights, provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

When government acts in accordance with the Constitution, it is not ‘clamping down’ on citizens’ rights – such a notion is both ignorant and wrong.

When government acts in a manner the people believe violates their rights, they are at liberty to seek relief in the courts to have acts of government repugnant to the Constitution invalidated.

All acts of government are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, in deference to the will of the people as represented by the government they elected.

So amendments to the Constitution are absolute? That's not what Dementia Joe said.
 
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Is that the only rights you know of, you have no idea of the rights that they have been breaking for decades?

Which part of "just a few" is too complicated for you?
 

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Laws have been passed in the past that regulate what type of firearms you can own and what is needed to obtain them, so yes the Second Amendment can be limited with the authority of the Congress and has been before...

If you do not believe me then try to buy a Uzi and see what requirements are needed to obtain one:


In the link it will explain there are requirements to obtain certain firearms like Machine Guns, so this will be the bases of the Democrats argument that they can limit what you own and require certain documents to own certain firearms.
 

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When Biden says “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” is he or isn’t he just talking about the Second Amendment?

Just a few:
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion. We've certainly have seen them clamp down on these.

Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.

Abolishes slavery, wonder how many of those illegals coming in would agree in six months.

Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. Sorry ladies, your right may be in jeopardy.

Biden on the Second Amendment: 'No amendment is absolute'

I'm deaf so I couldn't hear him.
Did he say "if ya wanna vote in need to sniff it ?,C'mon man."
 

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Right to keep and bear arms. this is the one he's after. Yet he's opening the door for all amendments.
This is a lie.

None of the proposed firearm regulations violate the Second Amendment.

President Biden is correct about no right being ‘absolute’:

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”


Because no right is absolute or unlimited, government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on the exercising of those rights, provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

When government acts in accordance with the Constitution, it is not ‘clamping down’ on citizens’ rights – such a notion is both ignorant and wrong.

When government acts in a manner the people believe violates their rights, they are at liberty to seek relief in the courts to have acts of government repugnant to the Constitution invalidated.

All acts of government are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, in deference to the will of the people as represented by the government they elected.
Yes and No.
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Yes the govt has authority to regulate where we consent to give authority.
No, govt cannot regulate beliefs.
We can police behavior but not beliefs in people's heads.

So there is a limit to what govt can and cannot regulate.

If you cannot get this concept through your head, nobody, not God nor Govt can force you to change your mind or beliefs without your consent.

That in sum is the Conservative belief in Libertarianism or individual liberty.

Liberals call this prochoice, and defend the right to due process from govt regulation on some issues while Conservatives defend it in others.

Same process, same principle.

We just carry different biases, where one side defends gun rights from overreaching regulations and the other defends voting rights with the same vigor.

Abstinence and birth control,
Shut downs and masks or vaccines.

We all have our "limits" as to what govt can or cannot mandate either with or without our consent.

This is why Conservatives argue for consent of the governed.

Liberals want their consent, too, but just call it different things.
 

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Is that the only rights you know of, you have no idea of the rights that they have been breaking for decades?
Name one
Asset forfeiture.
Like?

all tax law is asset forfeiture. You’re weird
If it is voluntary it is like tithing donating or tipping the govt for good service.

Honestly I believe all taxpayers should have equal alternatives of investing loans to govt, securing loans by reclaiming shares in ownership of property and programs, and start refinancing govt and debts by rewarding local ownership investment and stewardship in more cost effective, sustainable and mutually beneficial programs that compete for funding and support by the right reasons. If the programs really work best, with least restrtictive means and maximum results in reducing waste and solving problems, we would voluntarily participate and patronize those just like we support good businesses and nonprofits.
 

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Is that the only rights you know of, you have no idea of the rights that they have been breaking for decades?
Name one
Asset forfeiture.
Like?

all tax law is asset forfeiture. You’re weird
If it is voluntary it is like tithing donating or tipping the govt for good service.

Honestly I believe all taxpayers should have equal alternatives of investing loans to govt, securing loans by reclaiming shares in ownership of property and programs, and start refinancing govt and debts by rewarding local ownership investment and stewardship in more cost effective, sustainable and mutually beneficial programs that compete for funding and support by the right reasons. If the programs really work best, with least restrtictive means and maximum results in reducing waste and solving problems, we would voluntarily participate and patronize those just like we support good businesses and nonprofits.
Then why do demofks not give more since they’re so concerned? I give what the gov asks, I ask for them to curb spending and they flip me off. Odd shit.

I think the government service sucks and I wish to resind my tithings. You think they’d be ok with that? Hahaha
 
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Its a make pretend made up feelings thing from him to try and pave the way for another freedom robbing attempt by him
 

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