NIH Admits To Funding Gain-Of-Function Research In Wuhan Lab

[danielpalos]

Every sane person should be anti mask and anti mRNA injection.
These are stupid and irresponsible methods that should not be done at this time and place.
They are illogical, anti science, totally emotion based, and make no sense at all.
Masks are ONLY good if you are doing full quarantine with contact tracing.
If you are not doing full quarantine, then you want to just selectively quarantine the vulnerable, while you try to enhance infection spread with everyone else, as fast as possible.

And I won't even go into these stupid mRNA injections.
They are totally useless, as they are not getting into T-cell memory, and their antibodies are not going to last more than 3 months.

Only ignorant right-wingers are rebels without a Cause.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

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[ClaireH]

So, if I read you right, you're saying that it's ok that Fauci lied to Congress because what turns out to be the truth as to where the virus was exposed to the world was correct? Is that your stance really?

You know lying to Congress in a hearing could carry a criminal refferal to DoJ, as it did in several cases during the Trump administration. If I recall, you thought that was just. What's is different with this Jack?

Don't you understand just how dangerous GoF is? And, that Fauci seems to have wanted to cover his ass for being a part of this particular virus, making him in part responsible for what has happened since the release, and you want to ignore that because why? Because he today gives you talking points against your boogeyman Trump?

Here is a telling aspect to it all: the term gain of function is the new and improved word for “illegal” as an illegal research/ illegal activities committed. There were researchers knowingly amping the risk and they knew they were not supposed to do it- making a novel, deadly virus more deadly than all known bat coronaviruses…. and trying to hide that information, at least reportedly that’s the case. Truth will prevail eventually.

 

[Catman51]

Only ignorant right-wingers are rebels without a Cause.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

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Actually with a cause. To actually, find the truth which you on the left are trying and failing to hide, Just to gain power over the citizens of this country.

BTW, it is now generally admitted that these shots do not last long term, but Fauci and friends will never admit that they made a mistake. It would lessen their grip on power.

 

[danielpalos]

Actually with a cause. To actually, find the truth which you on the left are trying and failing to hide, Just to gain power over the citizens of this country.

BTW, it is now generally admitted that these shots do not last long term, but Fauci and friends will never admit that they made a mistake. It would lessen their grip on power.

Right-wingers simply prefer to repeat historical mistakes and allege y'all are not really like that afterward.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

 

[Rigby5]

We should have learned from history.
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Sorry, but that is incredibly ignorant.
The whole problem with the Spanish flu was the stupid mistake of wearing masks.
You can ONLY use masks if you are also going full quarantine.

If you are NOT going full quarantine, then you only can mask the vulnerable, and instead need the widest possible spread among those who are not vulnerable.
If you are not going full quarantine, then if those who are not vulnerable were to wear masks, then you prevent herd immunity, you conserve easy hosts for the virus, so that it can then survive forever. Mask means easy hosts. Masks mean the epidemic can not be ended.
Masks are why the Spanish flu lasted so long, and masks killed hundreds of thousands, unnecessarily.

 

[danielpalos]

Sorry, but that is incredibly ignorant.
The whole problem with the Spanish flu was the stupid mistake of wearing masks.
You can ONLY use masks if you are also going full quarantine.

If you are NOT going full quarantine, then you only can mask the vulnerable, and instead need the widest possible spread among those who are not vulnerable.
If you are not going full quarantine, then if those who are not vulnerable were to wear masks, then you prevent herd immunity, you conserve easy hosts for the virus, so that it can then survive forever. Mask means easy hosts. Masks mean the epidemic can not be ended.
Masks are why the Spanish flu lasted so long, and masks killed hundreds of thousands, unnecessarily.

That only makes sense to the right-wing. We know masks help mitigate the spread of respiratory, infectious diseases.

 

[Catman51]

Right-wingers simply prefer to repeat historical mistakes and allege y'all are not really like that afterward.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Where as leftist like you prefer to make new mistakes without knowing the consequences of their actions. And not caring as long as they get their way. The fact that you continue to push ideas that you have no idea of what the outcome will be. True mental deficiencies on full display.

 

[Catman51]

That only makes sense to the right-wing. We know masks help mitigate the spread of respiratory, infectious diseases.

If you read any "research" than your own propaganda you would know how false your statement is.

 

[danielpalos]

If you read any "research" than your own propaganda you would know how false your statement is.

All the data I have read shows masks must be more effective than going maskless regarding Any respiratory infection diseases.

 

[Rigby5]

Right-wingers simply prefer to repeat historical mistakes and allege y'all are not really like that afterward.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Foolish misunderstanding.
Deaths are made greater by preventing the epidemic from ending, by the use of masks.
The ONLY time you should use masks is if the whole population is going full quarantine, or is you only want to use masks for the vulnerable when they go full quarantine.
When you use masks unnecessarily, for a population that is not going full quarantine, then the masks are going harm and preventing herd immunity.

 

[Rigby5]

All the data I have read shows masks must be more effective than going maskless regarding Any respiratory infection diseases.

Absolutely and completely wrong.
When you are not going full quarantine, then you want and need full infection of any easy hosts.
If you conserve easy hosts by social distancing or masks, then all you doing is preventing the epidemic from ending.

But masks are also easily shown to be poor for any reduction of epidemic spread.
Sure they reduce range of coughs and sneezes, but for normal breathing, they do nothing once the saliva particles your breath evaporate in the mask.

 

[Catman51]

All the data I have read shows masks must be more effective than going maskless regarding Any respiratory infection diseases.

And there it is, "all the data you8 have read". Admitting that you have read only what supports your bias.

Says just about all that needs to be said about you.

 

[danielpalos]

Foolish misunderstanding.
Deaths are made greater by preventing the epidemic from ending, by the use of masks.
The ONLY time you should use masks is if the whole population is going full quarantine, or is you only want to use masks for the vulnerable when they go full quarantine.
When you use masks unnecessarily, for a population that is not going full quarantine, then the masks are going harm and preventing herd immunity.

Not at all. Hypothetically, better preparedness by the National Health Service could draft all the out-of-work help they may need. Educating people how to properly wear masks and sanitation procedures could go a long way, next time regarding any communicable pathogen. We have to learn from our mistakes not merely repeat them and proclaim we are not really like that afterward, like right-wingers.

 

[danielpalos]

Absolutely and completely wrong.
When you are not going full quarantine, then you want and need full infection of any easy hosts.
If you conserve easy hosts by social distancing or masks, then all you doing is preventing the epidemic from ending.

But masks are also easily shown to be poor for any reduction of epidemic spread.
Sure they reduce range of coughs and sneezes, but for normal breathing, they do nothing once the saliva particles your breath evaporate in the mask.

You miss the point about reducing the spread by reducing the amount of exhaled air travel.

 

[danielpalos]

And there it is, "all the data you8 have read". Admitting that you have read only what supports your bias.

Says just about all that needs to be said about you.

The same could be said about right-wingers pushing this propaganda.

 

[ClaireH]

There should never be a 2nd wave with any epidemic.
When there is a 2nd wave, that means not enough people got it in the first wave, and some easy local hosts escaped, in order to keep the epidemic going.
You want the first wave to spike as high as possible, so that it totally burns out as quickly as possible.

You can do masks and social distancing if you want, but then you have to do full quarantine.
You can't do masks and social distancing if you are not doing full quarantine.
If you are not doing full quarantine, then you must do the opposite and deliberately spread the infection as quickly as possible.
You can quarantine those you deliberately infect, so they do not spread it to the vulnerable, but you want as many of those who are not vulnerable, to get infected right away.

Those are the only 2 choices.
Masking and social distancing without full quarantine, is defeating itself.
It can not work.
It just makes the epidemic linger forever, thus resulting in the largest possible death toll.

A second wave means a huge mistake was made.
It means a large local host population was left untouched by the first wave.

Worst decision ever- “flattening the curve” with the lie that the hospitals were experiencing massive shortages of PPE when the truth was NIH knew more time was needed for the fake vaccines to rush through testing phase for emergency authorization. Not only did more people die who did not go to the hospital because they were told to stay home, but the chance for herd immunity was eliminated.

There are many people needed to be more vocal with their state representatives about investigating Fauci’s falsehoods to congress, his direct affiliation with the Wuhan lab that enabled worthless experimenters to engage in illegal activities beyond scope of grant, and NIAID’s (Fauci’s baby under NIH) financial records of NIAID.

 

[Esdraelon]

"congressman paul, you have no idea what you are talking about"
And BOOOOM goes the dynamite.
Remember when fauxi said that to rand? I remember self righteous political cultists like Mac1958 praising fauxi for fighting back.
What now, bitches?

That evil little feckin' Gnome should be indicted for perjury.

 

[Catman51]

Not at all. Hypothetically, better preparedness by the National Health Service could draft all the out-of-work help they may need. Educating people how to properly wear masks and sanitation procedures could go a long way, next time regarding any communicable pathogen. We have to learn from our mistakes not merely repeat them and proclaim we are not really like that afterward, like right-wingers.

One of the main problems with your statement is that leftists do not try to educate, they mandate. Thus making the rest of your statement moot. Therein lies your real problem.

 

[Catman51]

The same could be said about right-wingers pushing this propaganda.

Except that would be false as all the MSM are liberal based and pushing their agenda as hard as they can.

They rarely mention what the right has to say on the subject as it opposes their agenda.

 

[danielpalos]

One of the main problems with your statement is that leftists do not try to educate, they mandate. Thus making the rest of your statement moot. Therein lies your real problem.

I have no idea how you reached your conclusion. I got fully vaccinated a few months ago. Your real problem is that any fantasy will work for the right-wing. Is it any wonder why need a Congress to enact public Acts with the full faith and credit of the United States.