NFL owners reportedly upset over Chargers move to LA.lol

[LA RAM FAN]

Okay this makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever.If true,then WHY did they give them the freaking option to move there in the first place?



It's not just the owners, either. The league office is "beside itself" over the Chargers' move.
NFL is reportedly upset with Chargers, wants them to move back to San Diego

 

[Alex.]

This is why and the Chargers ran with it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

This is why and the Chargers ran with it.

I think you're missing the point here of the thread. That would make sense if I asked WHY the chargers moved to LA but thats not what i said,what I was asking is WHY are the owners all of a sudden mad at chargers owner Dean Spanos for moving to LA when THEY are the ones that gave him permission to do so in the first place.Its crazy.

 

[Alex.]

This is why and the Chargers ran with it.

I think you're missing the point here of the thread. That would make sense if I asked WHY the chargers moved to LA but thats not what i said,what I was asking is WHY are the owners all of a sudden mad at chargers owner Dean Spanos for moving to LA when THEY are the ones that gave him permission to do so in the first place.Its crazy.

I know .....my position is they wanted to generate more money and the chargers did the move beofre the owners thought this through.

The NFL is a scam....no matter what and no matter who they always get the game out.... total BS

This too shall pass.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Knowing that the owners want him to turn tail and go back you know I am thinking he will do just that,just not this season is all. I think after if not this year,then after the next season after playing in stub hub,when they draw a measely 11,000 fans there in carson,that he will be too embarrassed to want to take his team into Inglewood knowing he is only drawing 11,000 fans or so. especially after reading this article this really makes me believe he might do just that.

The NFL team that might move to San Diego

PLUS these are excellent points as well someone made recently.

But where things are now is such that The Los Angeles Chargers are, to put it mildly, a mistake. The NFL's really screwed this one up, and for several reasons.

First, San Diego Chargers fans aren't so rabid that all of them are going to drive up the 405 to see the LA version, and because the majority of them are pissed off with Dean Spanos. Second, there's no market study to support the idea that people in LA want to see the Chargers. Third, between St. Louis (which had the Rams until last year) and San Diego, the NFL has managed to upset about 8 million people. That's 8 million people who are far less likely to watch a league game on television, or even Twitter. Fourth, you have the LA Chargers providing a little competition for the LA Rams in their backyard and in an uncertain market. Couple that with the overall reduced demand to see them play on television and you can see the NFL's problem.

The trouble is the NFL doesn't see the problem – but it's going to feel it, and right where it matters most. It's pocketbook.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

another great article as well.

There are plenty of people who wondered whether L.A. wanted the Chargers in the first place. The city already added the Rams last season, and they actually wanted them to com
The NFL Already Wants the Chargers to Move Back to San Diego
The Chargers are willingly playing in a 30,000 seat soccer stadium for the next two seasons, which will be the smallest stadium in the league by about 26,000 seats. It's a pretty big indication of their fear for how tough it's going to be to draw fans to come watch them play; no owner would willingly halve their game-day revenue if it wasn't necessary to save face.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

dont want to get my hopes up that the chargers will be back anytime soon but this DOES give me some hope.

People seem to think San Diego is some small town. They don't realize that it has a population of 1.3 M permanent residents making it the 8th largest city in the US. That's a substantial market. It's also been shown the Chargers will draw big if the team is a contender. This stuff about needing big corporations to buy luxury boxes, ergo San Diego is too small is pure garbage. Anyone take a good hard look at San Diego? North County is becoming OC south in terms of financial demographics and the type and size of companies now with a major presence there is more than impressive. Sorrento Valley, Torrey Pines and the UTC area are booming with high end businesses. The Chargers have historically done a very poor job of marketing, they could take lessons from the Raiders and Cowboys.



Why would a new franchise buyer stay up in LA where he's in the middle of the pack on what the people and importantly corporations want to spend their money. LA will support a winner.....but look at this franchise over the past 7 years. AJ Smith's team was a legitimate contender between 2004 through 2009 and the team was well supported. He was fired after 3 bad years despite 5 good ones prior. Now the Chargers have had 4 bad years and just scapegoated their HC. The FO responsible for this fiasco will remain in place as long as Spanos owns the team.



Now compare this with Seattle which doesn't have anywhere the near the number of major corporate presence and less than 700,000 residents. The franchise turned around in just a couple years once a new FO came in with a new owner that was committed to winning, not filling his bank account. Why do you think the NFL wanted the Chargers to stay? San Diego is a major market and that doesn't even include the across the border fans.



A new owner would receive a lot of help from the NFL in returning to San Diego. Besides this is where his fan base would be and he would be welcomed like a hero coming home. The Chargers in LA will struggle badly in trying to build a fanbase. Every home game with the Raiders would be worse up there than it is down here. In fact there are more Bronco fans in LA than Charger fans, by a wide margin.



Dean would have been better off moving to San Antonio than LA in terms of fan base. But you see, Dean doesn't care about all that. All he sees is an opportunity to more than double the value of his franchise immediately. The only reason you would care about that is if you intend or expect to sell. Franchise value is meaningless until it's sold.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The answer of course is to get the next "poor" team in need of a new stadium to promise to go there if they get one. Play ring around the rosie like Rams did

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The answer of course is to get the next "poor" team in need of a new stadium to promise to go there if they get one. Play ring around the rosie like Rams did

can you rephrase that please? what do you mean by ring around the rosie? the Rams are in LA now and it looks the chargers will be as well this year unless idiot dean comes to his senses and turns back. that doesnt answer the question WHY they approved the move and are now angry about him coming there. the rollseye sig so you know is the logic of the NFL, not your post just so there is no confusion on that.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Goodell says NFL was 'disappointed' the Chargers didn't stay in San Diego

 

[LA RAM FAN]

great interview with eric dickerson.

'This is not going to be a Chargers town' - Eric Dickerson | AM 570 LA Sports

 

[LA RAM FAN]

all great stuff

I could see them being welcomed back warmly by the community. But with anyone named Spanos in the ownership group? Forget it.

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[LA RAM FAN]

Perhaps if the rumours about the Chargers returning to San Diego are true and come into fruition, they might postpone the demolition until a new one is built there. Or worst case scenario, play a couple seasons in that soccer stadium in Carson until Qualcomm is renovated or replaced. I know that usually takes at least a couple years.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

A lot of people aren't old enough to remember, but the Murph was a great stadium before they did the '97 addition, which ruined the view to the east and destroyed the aesthetics of the place, and all we got out of it was two Super Bowls, the ticket guarantee, and a bunch of TV blackouts when we were left with a stadium with 10,000 too many seats for our market.

Tear down the addition, return the stadium to the 60,000 seat range, restore the views, refurbish the remaining parts, and there's no reason the old girl doesn't have another 40 years in her.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Why they already have stated the stadium is coming down after the college football season is over and the college games are going to Petco.
Because it is a massive financial drain to taxpayers now and being replaced with a soccer venue sometime in the future which is far cheaper to run and better rate of return to the city.
Unless some Billionaire forks over $2 billion no stadium is being built.
A lot of folks are mad but why build a stadium for fans of the Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Rams to take over it is not a good investment and is a bad way of showing off San Diego on tv.
San Diego needs a new arena, and a soccer stadium more than anything.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That may be the "best" compromise. I wish I had the billions & charisma to sell a return. I love the city, and with the right plan they could reclaim the fan base.
First step is getting rid of every Spanos connection. I wouldn't let 'em sell hot dogs at this point.

Of course it would be the best compromise. Why Spanos and company or the city of San Diego never thought about that boggles the mind.

LDT needs to put an ownership group together.

 

[HenryBHough]

Will there still be an NFL after the 2018 elections? Can the former football league, now a neo-socialist political party, survive when its cash-cow anti-trust exemption is stripped away?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

don't see it happening can you imagine massive lawsuit by Spanos over this . Until I hear it from Fred Roggin, Jason Cole, Vinny Bonsignore, Jason La Canfora , Mike Florio, Adam Schefter this is all smoke.
Bonsignore and Roggin just a couple weeks ago was saying how great things were with the Chargers and they were already working with how they were going to do things in the new stadium.
That they had no intentions of accepting a move back or forced move another city in the LA market that they would sue everyone involved and keep that going for a very long time if that happened.
Best thing to do is Rebrand the team bring in an expansion team to
San Diego and have a privately funded stadium for that area that is the best outcome.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The LA team rebrand and a return of the San Diego Chargers via expansion also via Cleveland Browns arrangement would probably be the likeliest of scenarios. But if Spanos sells the team to someone who'll move it to San Diego, the lawsuit wouldn't even happen. If his team continues the way they are attendance wise in LA, then I heard San Antonio is a city waiting in the wings for a team. The Rams could have the LA market all to themselve

 

[LA RAM FAN]

One thing should be said at this point. The whole San Diego bashing, non supportive town etc is being exposed for the fraud it is. The Chargers are the same shitty team in LA and LA is going to show the Spanos clowns what they think of mediocrity as well. And if Spanos starts talking about relocation, going to San Antonio etc, in other words the same bullshit pulled in S.D., he is going to be looking at 12,000 people in the soccer stadium. As for shinny new stadiums being gifted by cities, we have probably seen the last of that anywhere. Schools, healthcare, city infrastructure, pension issues etc. will never allow 2 billion to be directed to billionaires anywhere.