Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[progressive hunter]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

boy you so lucky I dont know how to post pictures

 

[Flash]

[Q Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

 

[progressive hunter]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

 

[danielpalos]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

any civil war or revolution can cause that, not peaceful socialism.

 

[progressive hunter]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

 

[danielpalos]

Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

Ice Ages are cyclical.

Why not upgrade any underground Cities we may find, for modern times.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Ahem.

A Graph of Money in the United States, 1929-38

Central economic planning by a central bank is now and was then a socialist moneary policy.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

the right wing is worse; they allege a subscription to capitalism.

Do you subscribe to capitalism?

Yes, we allege to subscribe to Capitalism within the socialism of our form of Government.

Have You "played Ceasar3 with no taxes only market economics"?

But of course you do. The socialist state is a leech upon society. It really is amazing that many are delusional and think a self serving state actually cares about the populace. It just shows the depravity that abounds.

 

[easyt65]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

Ummmmm.....1929?!

You're attempting to justify embracing Socialism TODAY by asking people to remember what 'Capitalism' was like IN 1929?

Bwuhahahahaha.......


Next time some snowflake mentions SOCIALISM to you.....don't ask them to look back at what Capitalism looked like 90 years ago....ask them to look what SOCIALISM looks like TODAY...in Venezuela:










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[BS Filter]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

any civil war or revolution can cause that, not peaceful socialism.

Yes, on paper, not in reality.

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing is worse; they allege a subscription to capitalism.

Do you subscribe to capitalism?

Yes, we allege to subscribe to Capitalism within the socialism of our form of Government.

Have You "played Ceasar3 with no taxes only market economics"?

But of course you do. The socialist state is a leech upon society. It really is amazing that many are delusional and think a self serving state actually cares about the populace. It just shows the depravity that abounds.

The most difficult part is dealing with appeals to ignorance from the right wing. In a vacuum of special pleading, they are Always right and I am on the Left.

 

[Blues Man]

Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

Ice Ages are cyclical.

Why not upgrade any underground Cities we may find, for modern times.

You think there are underground cities?

 

[danielpalos]

So where are the pics of the millions of dead bodies in piles and piles that were murdered by the totalitarian socialist regimes?

any civil war or revolution can cause that, not peaceful socialism.

Yes, on paper, not in reality.

yes, that was the reality. those States were "in the process of changing Government", not in a Peaceful long run equilibrium.

 

[danielpalos]

Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

Ice Ages are cyclical.

Why not upgrade any underground Cities we may find, for modern times.

You think there are underground cities?

You think there aren't?

 

[Blues Man]

Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

Ice Ages are cyclical.

Why not upgrade any underground Cities we may find, for modern times.

You think there are underground cities?

You think there aren't?

I'm not a proponent of the hollow earth theory

 

[the other mike]

You're attempting to justify embracing Socialism TODAY by asking people to remember what 'Capitalism' was like IN 1929?
.

How about 2019 ?

Will the U.S. Dollar Collapse? How and When That Could Occur

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4203870-dollar-index-going-collapse

$22,000,000,000,000 U.S. National Debt

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[LordBrownTrout]

the right wing is worse; they allege a subscription to capitalism.

Do you subscribe to capitalism?

Yes, we allege to subscribe to Capitalism within the socialism of our form of Government.

Have You "played Ceasar3 with no taxes only market economics"?

But of course you do. The socialist state is a leech upon society. It really is amazing that many are delusional and think a self serving state actually cares about the populace. It just shows the depravity that abounds.

The most difficult part is dealing with appeals to ignorance from the right wing. In a vacuum of special pleading, they are Always right and I am on the Left.

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Both sides have a monopoly on the ignorance part. Ignorance doesn't discriminate.

 

[whitehall]

It's ironic that Americans hired a socialist president who turned the stock market disaster of '29 into a man killing soup line "great depression" during his first two terms and lefties still love the old slob even when he incarcerated American citizens without due process. FDR finally died and America recovered though. How did the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics make out? How would y'all socialist lefties like to move to the people's paradise of Cuba and Venezuela?

 

[danielpalos]

Climate change is cyclical.

Yes it is. For 90% of the time the earth has been around it has been warmer than it is now. The earth is actually in a cool period now.

Ice Ages are cyclical.

Why not upgrade any underground Cities we may find, for modern times.

You think there are underground cities?

You think there aren't?

I'm not a proponent of the hollow earth theory

we only need examine the crust, on this topic.

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing is worse; they allege a subscription to capitalism.

Do you subscribe to capitalism?

Yes, we allege to subscribe to Capitalism within the socialism of our form of Government.

Have You "played Ceasar3 with no taxes only market economics"?

But of course you do. The socialist state is a leech upon society. It really is amazing that many are delusional and think a self serving state actually cares about the populace. It just shows the depravity that abounds.

The most difficult part is dealing with appeals to ignorance from the right wing. In a vacuum of special pleading, they are Always right and I am on the Left.

.
Both sides have a monopoly on the ignorance part. Ignorance doesn't discriminate.

the right wing proclaims in public venues they subscribe to Capitalism not socialism on a national basis.