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Basically, Arizona is going to punish children for the sins of their parents. Way to go Arizona.
But as loyal Americans, those "Mexican" children should have their undocumented parents thrown out of the country. BUT THEY DON'T THEREFORE SHOWING THEIR LOYALTY TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT-MEXICO!
They are children of foreign nationals and they are not naturalized as American nationals, hence not meeting the criteria laid out in the 14th and not being conferred citizenship upon birth
What 'Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof' Really Means
Next... Anchor Babies. 06-11-2010 03:01 PM Madeline Preponderous, xenophobic, racist bullshit.
So the Constitution is preponderous (?) bullshit?
It's the view of all illegals. That's why they have no qualms spitting on our sovereignty and violating our borders.What's the point of your pointless comment?
Ah, I see what you are trying to say.
What you are doing is depicting a minority viewpoint - a small group of Mexicans and attempting to use that to represent the majority of Mexican immigrants.
Basically, Arizona is going to punish children for the sins of their parents. Way to go Arizona.
Isn't that what happen when an American commits a crime and go to prison? Anchor babies parents entered this country illegally and that's a deportable crime. The punishment fits the crime in both instances.
The 14th Amendment separates families and that is good enough reason for it to beS repealed. It is not legal to give children of illegal aliens citizenship.
What would it take to get this done? Does it require an amendment or can the state just do it themselves?
you admire the constitution yet attack me for demanding it be followed?Nice try, but the neg rep is for what YOU posted, tsalkonocii. I greatly admire the constitution.
It's the view of all illegals. That's why they have no qualms spitting on our sovereignty and violating our borders.Ah, I see what you are trying to say.
What you are doing is depicting a minority viewpoint - a small group of Mexicans and attempting to use that to represent the majority of Mexican immigrants.
I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.
why do people like madeline hate the idea of America as a sovereign nation?
no i don't believe she does. She has empathy for the state of the conditions of other countries. She doesn't understand that THAT is not our problem or an excuse for illegal immigration and the use of anchor babies to stay here illegally.
why do people like madeline hate the idea of America as a sovereign nation?
Why do people like tsalkonocii, who gained by an accident of their birth, wish to deny the benefits of citizenship to a racial group whose parents annoy them?
No one is denying the benefits of citizenship. You are missing the point of illegal immigration and how the anchor babies got here in the first place.
AND why do you think the issue of illegal anchor babies is about ONE group of people only?
It's the view of all illegals. That's why they have no qualms spitting on our sovereignty and violating our borders.
I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.
if they believed in American sovereignty, they wouldn't spit on it by ignoring our border and spitting on our very existence as a sovereign nation
Do they have any natural resources we might want for cheap?why do people like madeline hate the idea of America as a sovereign nation?
no i don't believe she does. She has empathy for the state of the conditions of other countries. She doesn't understand that THAT is not our problem or an excuse for illegal immigration and the use of anchor babies to stay here illegally.
If the US is going to be expected to be responsible for the conditions in Mexico and mitigate them, then we should get the real estate that goes with the people. If we don't get to run Mexico, then I see no reason to feel responsible for what happens there.
I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.
if they believed in American sovereignty, they wouldn't spit on it by ignoring our border and spitting on our very existence as a sovereign nation
If it were that simple then the same sentiment applies to every American immigrant that came here and prospered off of broken treaties and stolen lands.
Which, in the end, makes a mockery out of our country.
if they believed in American sovereignty, they wouldn't spit on it by ignoring our border and spitting on our very existence as a sovereign nation
If it were that simple then the same sentiment applies to every American immigrant that came here and prospered off of broken treaties and stolen lands.
Which, in the end, makes a mockery out of our country.
Do they claim to believe in <!--insert indian tribe here--> sovereignty? Did they move to <!--insert name indian nation here-->? Or did they move to the United States and claim to believe in the existence of the United States as a sovereign nation, imperfect as it is and has been.
Now, are you done making a fool of yourself?
Do they have any natural resources we might want for cheap?no i don't believe she does. She has empathy for the state of the conditions of other countries. She doesn't understand that THAT is not our problem or an excuse for illegal immigration and the use of anchor babies to stay here illegally.
If the US is going to be expected to be responsible for the conditions in Mexico and mitigate them, then we should get the real estate that goes with the people. If we don't get to run Mexico, then I see no reason to feel responsible for what happens there.
You're screwing up your own argument.
Thus far you make no distinction between legal Mexican immigrants, illegal Mexican immigrants, and Mexican nationals in Mexico.
You think illegal immigrants come here for shits and giggles to "spit on our sovereignity
Do they claim we aren't a sovereign nation
or is that just the spin you like to put on it by posting pictures of radicals
No, they come here for opportunities and/or freedoms they can't get at home.
Whether right or wrong it seldom has anything to do with how they regard our sovereignity
Do they have any natural resources we might want for cheap?If the US is going to be expected to be responsible for the conditions in Mexico and mitigate them, then we should get the real estate that goes with the people. If we don't get to run Mexico, then I see no reason to feel responsible for what happens there.
The blue agave they make tequila from grows only in Jalisco, Mexico. Mexico, of course, has oil fields. I'd have to look it up for anything else. It's been many years since I had to memorize the primary exports of countries for geography class.
why do people like madeline hate the idea of America as a sovereign nation?
no i don't believe she does. She has empathy for the state of the conditions of other countries. She doesn't understand that THAT is not our problem or an excuse for illegal immigration and the use of anchor babies to stay here illegally.
syrenn, it's one hell of an assumption that anyone who does not denigrate the citizenship of a child born here to illegal aliens is somehow less patriotic than you are. The children do pose serious problems and I don't claim to have all the answers -- except that I think dumping American citizens into a third world country is wrong.
They are citizens, just as you are. All this bellyaching about what to do about the assault of illegals on Americans CANNOT begin to be debated by selecting "unwanted" American citizens to eject, especially not children. I'm not overly fond of some of the neighbor's kidlets, but I wouldn't dream of suggesting we deport them.
syrenn wrote:
Do you think Mexicans cared about how many innocent children were killed during WW2?
I'm sure this connects in some way, but offhand I cannot see how.