NEWS FLASH!!!!!! Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian BFD!

[healthmyths]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

Explain why Manafort shared polling data with a foreign enemy.

Go ahead, we want to laugh.

Probably to help the Russians in promoting Trump's presidency! What is wrong with that?
How Hillary Clinton used the anti-Trump Russia dossier during the campaign
Hillary Clinton used Christopher Steele’s Trump-Russia dossier that campaign paid for

 

[healthmyths]

More importantly... SO what if he did share polling data? BIG f...king DEAL!

That's collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians

And what is wrong with that? Were there any votes altered by the Russians? NO.
Collusion with the Russians IS NOT A CRIME!
The federal bribery statute -- 18 U.S.C. § 201(b)(2)(B) -- makes it a federal crime for a public official to "collude" in a fraud on the United States. More specifically, the federal bribery statute expressly states that a crime is committed when a public official "directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value ... in return for ... being influenced to ... collude in ... any fraud ... on the United States."
Sorry, President Trump, collusion IS a crime (opinion) - CNN

Where was there a "FRAUD" on the USA? Prove the fraud please!

The legality of collusion is yet to be settled but even if SCOTUS says it is perfectly legal for presidential candidates to be in cahoots with adversary nations is it right?

Rudy Fooliani may call it collusion. Others call it conspiracy which is a felony.

Rudy is an idiot.

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
Speaking of IDIOTS!
A) Idiot--- where above was any effort to influence the election by the Russians an offense against the USA?
B) Idiot--Sharing polling data as is NOT collusion to overthrow, damage, or defraud the USA.

Prove to all of US where it is a "conspiracy" IDIOT!!

 

[healthmyths]

it makes absolutely no sense. And why? You don’t think the Ukraine has access to polling data?

Campaigns also purchase demographic and polling data (and strategic analysis of it) that is not public. They hire companies like Cambridge Analytica for this. The idea and allegation here is that Manafort agreed to pass this on, likely strategically,in order to help the Russian troll farms target their efforts. And they did so, focusing on certain states late in the campaign.

That, my friend, is material support. And easing the leverage and pressure of a multi million dollar debt hanging over manafort's head is the quid pro quo.

And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

it makes absolutely no sense. And why? You don’t think the Ukraine has access to polling data?

Campaigns also purchase demographic and polling data (and strategic analysis of it) that is not public. They hire companies like Cambridge Analytica for this. The idea and allegation here is that Manafort agreed to pass this on, likely strategically,in order to help the Russian troll farms target their efforts. And they did so, focusing on certain states late in the campaign.

That, my friend, is material support. And easing the leverage and pressure of a multi million dollar debt hanging over manafort's head is the quid pro quo.

And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

Hmm, no, it could be conspiracy.

 

[healthmyths]

Mueller Thinks Paul Manafort Shared Trump Polling Data With Russian Operative | HuffPost

Yup...that's collusion.

Think Trump didn't know?

NOPE it is NOT collusion!
And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

 

[healthmyths]

it makes absolutely no sense. And why? You don’t think the Ukraine has access to polling data?

Campaigns also purchase demographic and polling data (and strategic analysis of it) that is not public. They hire companies like Cambridge Analytica for this. The idea and allegation here is that Manafort agreed to pass this on, likely strategically,in order to help the Russian troll farms target their efforts. And they did so, focusing on certain states late in the campaign.

That, my friend, is material support. And easing the leverage and pressure of a multi million dollar debt hanging over manafort's head is the quid pro quo.

And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

Hmm, no, it could be conspiracy.

WHAT OFFENSE against the USA???? Where was the specific concrete damage done to the USA or to any citizens?
Was there any buildings to be destroyed? People killed? Was there a direct attempt to "DEFRAUD" the USA?
Prove that please!

 

[healthmyths]

it makes absolutely no sense. And why? You don’t think the Ukraine has access to polling data?

Campaigns also purchase demographic and polling data (and strategic analysis of it) that is not public. They hire companies like Cambridge Analytica for this. The idea and allegation here is that Manafort agreed to pass this on, likely strategically,in order to help the Russian troll farms target their efforts. And they did so, focusing on certain states late in the campaign.

That, my friend, is material support. And easing the leverage and pressure of a multi million dollar debt hanging over manafort's head is the quid pro quo.

And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

Hmm, no, it could be conspiracy.

And NOT conspiracy!
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

I know FACTs are confusing to pointed heads.

 

[Valerie]

Prove to all of US where it is a "conspiracy" IDIOT!!

 

[healthmyths]

Prove to all of US where it is a "conspiracy" IDIOT!!

 

[healthmyths]

Prove to all of US where it is a "conspiracy" IDIOT!!

Mueller has has on his staff THESE dangerous people!
A) Andrew Weissmann... who helped put
1) Arthur Andersen accounting firm out of business...
LATER SCOTUS overturned 5/31/05 the case that put 28,000 out of work
2) Caused Enron to file for bankruptcy and laying off 4,000 employees

Despite its successes, the Enron Task Force emerged with a mixed legacy thanks to its trial losses and reversals from higher courts.
Among them, the Supreme Court reversed part of the Skilling verdict.
Today, many Justice Department officials have learned the wrong lessons from the Enron experience, accepting the idea that the task force was overzealous!
What Robert Mueller Learned From Enron — ProPublica

And Andrew Weissmann is making the SAME dumb ass mistakes and they haven't learned their lessons regarding being "OVERZEALOUS"![/QUOTE]

 

[Faun]

Although the filing does not say whether the polling information was public or what was done with it, it raises the possibility that Russia might have used inside information from the Trump campaign as part of its effort to interfere with the election on Trump’s behalf.

Filing: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian

SO what is the BIG f...king DEAL? This deserves a headline!
More importantly... SO what if he did share polling data? BIG f...king DEAL!

A) Is there ANY proof that the Russians hacked into any states voting ballots and altered them?
ANY????

B) SO what if they tried to influence voters? What do you dummies that get all excited as the AP did i.e. the above as THEY are doing that RIGHT now with this article!

They are trying to influence voters that Trump is bad. That is influencing the voters.
If the Russians did that it is no different than the AP doing it!

But this is just further proof of how poorly the MSM is doing and further justification for this action!
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines
Dallas Morning News lays off 43 as company struggles with revenue declines | The Dallas Morning News | Dallas News

The web survey of 1,440 Gallup Panel members sought to quantify exactly how much problematic information people believe they encounter in traditional news media as well as on social media.

Overall, U.S. adults estimate that 62% of the news they read in newspapers, see on television or hear on the radio is biased.Americans: Much Misinformation, Bias, Inaccuracy in News

Geeezus, don't look now but your roof is totally sliding off.

Trump campaign chair colaborating with Russians who he owns money to is ABSOLUTELY a story, and yes, stories tend to need a HEADING.

And Bill Clinton was PAID $500,000 for a speech by the Russians!

The former president indeed had received a personal call from then-Prime Minister Vladimir Putin expressing his appreciation for the speech.
According to Mrs. Clinton’s ethics disclosure form filed while she was secretary of State, Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 by the Russia-based finance company
Renaissance Capital for his June 29, 2010, speech in Moscow to its employees and guests attending the company's annual conference.

The speech is now coming back to haunt the Clintons, considering the company that cut the check was allegedly tied to the scandal that spurred the Global Magnitsky Act, a bill that imposed sanctions on Russians designated as human-rights abusers and eventually would become law in 2012.
Hillary Clinton sided with Russia on sanctions as Bill made $500G on Moscow speech

So what? Bill CliAnton often charged that, or more, for a speech...

1. 2003 -- Japan, $500,000 Sakura Asset Management (Japanese finance corporation) (A note: This speech was canceled, but the fee went to Clinton’s presidential library foundation);
   
   
2. 2008 -- California, $500,000, Power Within (life coach Anthony Robbins’ brand);
   
   
3. 2010 -- Russia, $500,000, Renaissance Capital(Russian finance corporation);
   
   
4. 2010 -- United Arab Emirates, $500,000, Novo Nordisk (Danish pharmaceutical company);
   
   
5. 2011 -- Nigeria, $700,000, THISDAY (newspaper);
   
   
6. 2011 -- Austria, $500,000, Center for Global Dialogue and Cooperation(Austrian nongovernmental organization);
   
   
7. 2011 -- Netherlands, $600,000, Achmea(Dutch finance corporation);
   
   
8. 2011 -- China, $550,000, Huatuo CEO Forum(business conference);
   
   
9. 2011 -- United Arab Emirates, $500,000, Abu Dhabi Global Environmental Data Initiative(international environmental information organization);
   
   
10. 2011 -- Hong Kong, $750,000, Ericsson(Swedish multinational communications technology company);
    
    
11. 2012 -- Nigeria, $700,000, THISDAY (newspaper);
    
    
12. 2012 -- Austria, $500,000, Center for Global Dialogue and Cooperation(Austrian nongovernmental organization);
    
    
13. 2012 -- Italy, $500,000, Technogym(fitness equipment manufacturer).

Fact-checking 'Clinton Cash' author on claim about Bill Clinton's speaking fees

 

[Faun]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

Explain why Manafort shared polling data with a foreign enemy.

Go ahead, we want to laugh.

Probably to help the Russians in promoting Trump's presidency! What is wrong with that?
How Hillary Clinton used the anti-Trump Russia dossier during the campaign
Hillary Clinton used Christopher Steele’s Trump-Russia dossier that campaign paid for

LOLOL

There’s nothing in there to show Hillary used the dossier.

 

[Faun]

Prove to all of US where it is a "conspiracy" IDIOT!!

Mueller has has on his staff THESE dangerous people!
A) Andrew Weissmann... who helped put
1) Arthur Andersen accounting firm out of business...
LATER SCOTUS overturned 5/31/05 the case that put 28,000 out of work
2) Caused Enron to file for bankruptcy and laying off 4,000 employees

Despite its successes, the Enron Task Force emerged with a mixed legacy thanks to its trial losses and reversals from higher courts.
Among them, the Supreme Court reversed part of the Skilling verdict.
Today, many Justice Department officials have learned the wrong lessons from the Enron experience, accepting the idea that the task force was overzealous!
What Robert Mueller Learned From Enron — ProPublica

And Andrew Weissmann is making the SAME dumb ass mistakes and they haven't learned their lessons regarding being "OVERZEALOUS"!

[/QUOTE]
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Republicans installed Ken Starr to investigate the Clinton’s. He was a Republican who filed a friend-of-the-Court brief on behalf of Paula Jones, who was suing Bill Clinton.

Where was your outrage then, rightie?

 

[Centrista]

If the Russians spent $4,700 on google ads. Someone needs to sue them for being cheap. They got $12.000,000 from the Clinton campaign for the fake Steele Dossier, and pocketed $11,995,300. Hillary should sue their ass for not colluding with Trump!
Google CEO Admits Russians Only Spent $4,700 Dollars On The 2016 Election : conspiracy

You made up the $12 m to the Russian government thing.

 

[AntonToo]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

Explain why Manafort shared polling data with a foreign enemy.

Go ahead, we want to laugh.

Probably to help the Russians in promoting Trump's presidency! What is wrong with that?
How Hillary Clinton used the anti-Trump Russia dossier during the campaign
Hillary Clinton used Christopher Steele’s Trump-Russia dossier that campaign paid for

Oh no! Clinton campaign and DNC paid private company to find material on Trump and then USED IT! *GASP*!

What notourious mis-deeds by Clinton will rw sluths find next? Negative advertisement?!? Say it ain't so! People will go to jail for that!

 

[Dana7360]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

Ok so it may be legal. But, why did he do it? Hmmmm?

Manafort is not protecting Trump who can't do shit to keep him out of prison for the rest of his life. Let that sink in.

It's not legal.

Conspiracy is a crime.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How stupid are you fukkers? Sharing this data was perfectly legal (assuming it even happened), and has nothing to do with a CONSPIRACY TO IMPACT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - which is the ONLY question at issue.

The "problem," to the extent there is one for Manafort, is that he may have lied about it. Again, a classic "Perjury Trap." Lying about perfectly legal matters.

So the fuck what?

Explain why Manafort shared polling data with a foreign enemy.

Go ahead, we want to laugh.

Russia is not an enemy country.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Mueller Thinks Paul Manafort Shared Trump Polling Data With Russian Operative | HuffPost

Yup...that's collusion.

Think Trump didn't know?

Muellers got nothing.

Trump needs to end this farce

Mueller has nothing. That's why he asked for another six months. Maybe he can fabricate something.

 

[Siete]

Manafort Lawyers Accidentally Reveal Trump’s Campaign Chair Shared Polling Data With Alleged Russian Intel Officer

 

[Lesh]

And what is wrong with that? Were there any votes altered by the Russians? NO.

The russian propaganda campaign, no doubt, affected the final vote totals.

So what? The BIASED MSM propaganda campaign ALSO affected the votes! But is there ANY proof that the actually ballot systems were hacked and votes altered either by Russians or MSM? NOPE!

Are you fucking kidding?

You're fine with Putin picking our President because Putin tells you not to trust our MSM??