New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden

The South again listened to the hotheads and fired the first shot
Kind of forced the issue
First, Ft. Sumter is not in VA. 2nd, Abe flat out invaded a new nation. Put on your George Washington hat on this issue.
 
Exactly
Every possible explanation for the war ends up about Slavery

Lincoln had a tenuous union and did not want to kick out those who still supported it.

The states you named were about 10 percent slave while the Confederacy was 40 percent
I assure you that it might be another 100 years of Democrats horseshit but it will come to pass that this nation is taught that an invasion is not slavery. Abe invaded. Which is worse than slavery.
 
Did Abraham Lincoln and his advisors know that invading the Southern states was a bad idea and it would only lead to a long brutal war with no clear victor?


We have Democrats to blame for the distortions of our own history. Their intention is to erase their role in the so called civil war.

What is a civil war. It happens when a country wants to swap the form of Government by removing Government A or B and forcing down the publics throat some option. But as A wants to conquer B, it must happen that Bs aims is the same, to conquer A.

Lee went into PA defensively. He hated to be there. Abe pulled his stunt by invading VA and other states. Abe wanted more power.
 
That was the start of the war. You don't get to rewrite history. Confederates fired upon a U.S. fort. That's an act of war and recognized as the start of the war.
Believe it or not, it is the Democrats that teach that. Republicans know history far better than they do. Guess who almost demolished Ft. Sumter? Think the confederates did? Wrong, it was Abe Lincoln that sent ships there who demolished the fort. Wars involve death. A human dies. Ft Sumter had no deaths due to Confederates. There was a flag lowering ceremony by the north and one of the troops did die, but at the hands of the north.
 
just more liberal

FAKE

news!

They know.. liberals know that they have to vilifiy Trump endlessly because he is popular with the People

This is all they have---all they can do

The poor little wretched dirtbags... :rolleyes:
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Did Abraham Lincoln and his advisors know that invading the Southern states was a bad idea and it would only lead to a long brutal war with no clear victor?


We have Democrats to blame for the distortions of our own history. Their intention is to erase their role in the so called civil war.

What is a civil war. It happens when a country wants to swap the form of Government by removing Government A or B and forcing down the publics throat some option. But as A wants to conquer B, it must happen that Bs aims is the same, to conquer A.

Lee went into PA defensively. He hated to be there. Abe pulled his stunt by invading VA and other states. Abe wanted more power.

Lincoln only invaded after the war started.
 
The experts got this wrong, Biden received more black votes than Obama! 81M+. The greatest administration ever!

A bit harsh for Trump no? Last place. No wars, good economy, protected the border, last place?


A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, which touts itself as the foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics, as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."


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The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average, and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.
Propaganda from know it alls who know nothing.
 
I liked Obama, probably the coolest president ever. Just please God don't ever let that wife of his ever run for public office,
Obama started the decline of America and is still in charge of ruining this great nation. He is the absolute worst thing that ever happened to this country.
 
Believe it or not, it is the Democrats that teach that. Republicans know history far better than they do. Guess who almost demolished Ft. Sumter? Think the confederates did? Wrong, it was Abe Lincoln that sent ships there who demolished the fort. Wars involve death. A human dies. Ft Sumter had no deaths due to Confederates. There was a flag lowering ceremony by the north and one of the troops did die, but at the hands of the north.

History does not agree with your revisions. From the encyclopedia britannica, the start of the war was 4.12.1861, the day the Confederacy declared war on the United States, opening fire on a U.S. fort. Lincoln invaded Virginia 5 days later.



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