he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.www.cnn.com
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
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Mike Steele is his favorite gay porn star.Yes, who's Mike Steele?who’s mike steele? really?Who's Mike Steele and Rudy is bound by the same law as Trump.sure and they hired a subcontractor on her behalf...mike steele who worked directly for the campaign to specifically get OR on Trump in foreign countriesNo, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
fyi Rudy is an american.
what law?
And the same law I just posted a few minutes ago.
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Correct, Rudy's not a foreigner. But Zelensky is. Which makes it illegal for Rudy, an American, to solicit campaign aid from Zelensky, a foreign national.sorry chris steele! not the former Lt Gov of MDYes, who's Mike Steele?who’s mike steele? really?Who's Mike Steele and Rudy is bound by the same law as Trump.sure and they hired a subcontractor on her behalf...mike steele who worked directly for the campaign to specifically get OR on Trump in foreign countriesNo, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
fyi Rudy is an american.
what law?
And the same law I just posted a few minutes ago.
of course they are...Chris Steele is the only foreigner...the one used by the Clinton campaign
Rudy isn’t a foreigner
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Yes and Guiliani didn't use the U.S. legal system to get a false document like Clinton did.
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He wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
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There is no case, dufus. There is more of a case for investigating Clinton and Biden.
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You can add the solicitation of illegal campaign contributions from a foreign national to the list of charges.How about extortion, bribery, conspiracy, misuse of gov't funds, illegally withholding US military aid, coercing a foreign gov't to interfere in an American election, and defamation of character for starters.What's the charge?..."Felony cajoling"?....
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And who initiated the Dossier? Oh yes, Never-Trumpers!it’s not a statue it’s common law, agencyPost the law...of course she did. she was the principal...under agency law she’s responsiblePossibly, but she didn't employ Christopher Steele, so as far as the law is concerned, she's good.she’s responsible for who she employees******* moron, she paid Fusion GPS. That is not evidence she was involved with Fusion's decision to hire Steele.Of course it doesn't, you brain dead turd. She was obviously involved since she paid to have him hired. The claim that she wasn't aware of the fact doesn't pass the smell test.Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
What you're saying is that people can hire law firms to do what would be illegal to do themselves.
Only a total douchebag would accept that argument.
she also took and accepted the information knowing where it came from
law
principal - agent - third party law.
Clinton the principal is liable directly to Steele even though their agency acting on their behalf hired Steele
no...he wasn’t hired until the dnc and clinton hired fusionAnd who initiated the Dossier? Oh yes, Never-Trumpers!it’s not a statue it’s common law, agencyPost the law...of course she did. she was the principal...under agency law she’s responsiblePossibly, but she didn't employ Christopher Steele, so as far as the law is concerned, she's good.she’s responsible for who she employees******* moron, she paid Fusion GPS. That is not evidence she was involved with Fusion's decision to hire Steele.Of course it doesn't, you brain dead turd. She was obviously involved since she paid to have him hired. The claim that she wasn't aware of the fact doesn't pass the smell test.Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
What you're saying is that people can hire law firms to do what would be illegal to do themselves.
Only a total douchebag would accept that argument.
she also took and accepted the information knowing where it came from
law
principal - agent - third party law.
Clinton the principal is liable directly to Steele even though their agency acting on their behalf hired Steele
sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
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Nope, you're lying. He asked a foreign national to launch an investigation into Biden.sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
And why am I still waiting for you to show when Hillary took possession of the dossier?
rudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted oneNope, you're lying. He asked a foreign national to launch an investigation into Biden.sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
And why am I still waiting for you to show when Hillary took possession of the dossier?
and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
when steele delivered his report
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LOL
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
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I see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
You don't? What part of
"It shall be unlawful for-
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or"
didn't you understand?
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Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?
no he asked them to publicly acknowledge
what? Steele didn’t deliver his report? between June and November of 2016 he produced a number of seperate reports
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