toobfreak
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New Audio Evidence of Trump & Giuliani Corruption and Official Misconduct
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bripat9643
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So Trump wasn't allowed to investigate any Democrat?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.www.cnn.com
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
Do you understand how ******* stupid you are?
DrLove
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We have you insufferable lunatic
what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
DrLove
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Soon Loon!
bripat9643
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They also broke the law when they did it because political campaigns are not allowed to hire foreigners.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
Faun
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LOLSo Trump wasn't allowed to investigate any Democrat?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
Do you understand how ******* stupid you are?
You're ******* moronicness is growing. ******* moron, he could have legally investigated Biden had he gone through the Department of Justice. Instead, he chose to do it illegally by getting a foreign national to investigate Biden.
toobfreak
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Were you in the court? No? Then what do you know of "nonsense?"
Then you quote Fake News WaPo, claiming election fraud when Trump NEVER CLAIMED fraud.
Next time, try to get a link from a reputable source.
Faun
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No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
trump and Giuliani are Traitors and should be in prison. The entire repub party is trying hard to destroy our country.Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
bripat9643
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If it's illegal for him to do it the way he did it, then it's also illegal for the DOJ to do it. Short of getting a search warrant, your belief that the DOJ has a special expemption do things that are illegal for private citizens to do doesn't pass the smell testLOLSo Trump wasn't allowed to investigate any Democrat?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
Do you understand how ******* stupid you are?
You're ******* moronicness is growing. ******* moron, he could have legally investigated Biden had he gone through the Department of Justice. Instead, he chose to do it illegally by getting a foreign national to investigate Biden.
bripat9643
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GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
To think...the LIAR is going to soon to flying around the country telling his Big Lie. He is trying hard to start another insurrection, like JANUARY 6, 2021. A DATE THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY!
WEATHER53
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So many “soons”, well over 100
bripat9643
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Biden and Nazi Piglosi are destroying our country. How is opening the flood gates for illegal aliens benefiting any American? How is $10 trillion in deficit spending in his first year benefiting any American?trump and Giuliani are Traitors and should be in prison. The entire repub party is trying hard to destroy our country.Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
DrLove
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Exactly why even Rudy n Sid didn’t claim fraud. They knew they had zero evidence of such and didn’t want to be sanctioned or disbarred.
You write as if you were there in the court. Were you? Clearly not, or you would know better than to write nonsense.
You see, for the most part, Trump's lawsuits did not allege widespread fraud because there was never any evidence to substantiate that claim. That's why they argued on smaller issues like the vote counting process or which ballots should or should not be counted, or the vague claim of unfairness. Even then, the lawyers failed to present evidence to back up their assertions.
[According to the Washington Post here , instead of alleging “widespread fraud or election-changing conspiracy” the lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.”
On Nov 27, 2020 a federal appeals court rejected a Trump campaign proposal to block Biden from being declared the winner of Pennsylvania. ( here ). At the time, Stephanos Bibas, on behalf of the three-judge panel wrote: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."]
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...www.reuters.com
They’ll get those things anyway
bripat9643
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So you agee that Trump isn't guilty of fraud because of Trump U?Exactly why even Rudy n Sid didn’t claim fraud. They knew they had zero evidence of such and didn’t want to be sanctioned or disbarred.
You write as if you were there in the court. Were you? Clearly not, or you would know better than to write nonsense.
You see, for the most part, Trump's lawsuits did not allege widespread fraud because there was never any evidence to substantiate that claim. That's why they argued on smaller issues like the vote counting process or which ballots should or should not be counted, or the vague claim of unfairness. Even then, the lawyers failed to present evidence to back up their assertions.
[According to the Washington Post here , instead of alleging “widespread fraud or election-changing conspiracy” the lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.”
On Nov 27, 2020 a federal appeals court rejected a Trump campaign proposal to block Biden from being declared the winner of Pennsylvania. ( here ). At the time, Stephanos Bibas, on behalf of the three-judge panel wrote: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."]
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...
They’ll get those things anyway
Mustang
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Yeah, their day of reckoning is coming.Exactly why even Rudy n Sid didn’t claim fraud. They knew they had zero evidence of such and didn’t want to be sanctioned or disbarred.
You write as if you were there in the court. Were you? Clearly not, or you would know better than to write nonsense.
You see, for the most part, Trump's lawsuits did not allege widespread fraud because there was never any evidence to substantiate that claim. That's why they argued on smaller issues like the vote counting process or which ballots should or should not be counted, or the vague claim of unfairness. Even then, the lawyers failed to present evidence to back up their assertions.
[According to the Washington Post here , instead of alleging “widespread fraud or election-changing conspiracy” the lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.”
On Nov 27, 2020 a federal appeals court rejected a Trump campaign proposal to block Biden from being declared the winner of Pennsylvania. ( here ). At the time, Stephanos Bibas, on behalf of the three-judge panel wrote: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."]
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...
They’ll get those things anyway
Oddball
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Yeah, their day of reckoning is coming.Exactly why even Rudy n Sid didn’t claim fraud. They knew they had zero evidence of such and didn’t want to be sanctioned or disbarred.
You write as if you were there in the court. Were you? Clearly not, or you would know better than to write nonsense.
You see, for the most part, Trump's lawsuits did not allege widespread fraud because there was never any evidence to substantiate that claim. That's why they argued on smaller issues like the vote counting process or which ballots should or should not be counted, or the vague claim of unfairness. Even then, the lawyers failed to present evidence to back up their assertions.
[According to the Washington Post here , instead of alleging “widespread fraud or election-changing conspiracy” the lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.”
On Nov 27, 2020 a federal appeals court rejected a Trump campaign proposal to block Biden from being declared the winner of Pennsylvania. ( here ). At the time, Stephanos Bibas, on behalf of the three-judge panel wrote: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."]
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...
They’ll get those things anyway
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