Never Forget! Ashli Babbit Died For Their Freedom To Trample On Our Right To Have Our Votes Count

[Faun]

Again, that isn't a valid use for deadly force by a police officer.

That wasn't the purpose for shooting her. It was the result of shooting her. The purpose of shooting her was to keep her out of the House chamber, just several feet away from where she was shot.

 

[martybegan]

Was she or was she not trying to get through the barricade?

This really isn’t complicated. You’re embarrassing yourself.

She was, but that isn't a reason to shoot her. she posed no deadly risk to anyone. She should have been detained. She was shot out of hand.

 

[martybegan]

Police don't wait to check if someone is armed when they pose a threat to the safety of others.

You'll recall, Michael Brown wasn't armed when he was shot. But he posed a threat to the safety of others.

he was advancing directly on a police officer. He was also a big ass dude.

 

[martybegan]

Was she or was she not trying to get through the barricade?

This really isn’t complicated. You’re embarrassing yourself.

So going through a barricade = automatic reason to fire for police from now on.

Got it. Anti-fa is gonna get culled by those rules.

 

[Faun]

Falling through the barricade, and she didn't even get 1/2 way through because she fell BACK into the room she was in.

He said, "trying.". Obviously she failed.

HOP, POP & FLOP

 

[martybegan]

Those barriers weren’t the last line before reaching the members of Congress.

They tried to get to the floor but the police had their guns drawn on them and they stopped.

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And shooting blindly through those doors would have been another violation of deadly force rules.

 

[martybegan]

Your inability to understand what I said isn’t my problem.

Walk away dickless, you lost.

 

[Faun]

If she was halfway through she would have fallen forward.

Try leaning 51% over a bridge edge and see if you stay on.

So what if she wasn't quite halfway through? That makes no difference. She still tried to get through.

 

[martybegan]

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying she was a member of a violent mob trying to break through a police barricade to get to lawmakers inside the House chamber. As soon as that mob broke out a window to gain access, a cop drew his service weapon. Ashes Targetpractice was the first member of that mob to attempt to climb through and she was shot. Nobody else tried so nobody else was shot. Had anybody else been stupid enough to try, I expect they would have met the same fate.

So you are saying what I said, but have to dress it up like you weren't because even an idiot like you knows he violated deadly use of force rules for police.

 

[martybegan]

Here's video of the guy standing right next to her...

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"A number of police and secret service were saying, 'get back', 'get down', 'get out of the way,' she didn't heed the call and as we kind of raced up to grab people and pull 'em back, they shot her in the neck." ~ Thomas Baranyi, 1.6.21​

Next time don't post a video unavailable video for your point, nimrod.

 

[rightwinger]

She was not an immediate threat to them, again removing the allowance for the use of deadly force.

A mob is an immediate threat
She was leading a violent mob that injured 140 police officers

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ashlii Babbit died because she decided to break the law.

 

[Faun]

She was, but that isn't a reason to shoot her. she posed no deadly risk to anyone. She should have been detained. She was shot out of hand.

Bullshit. If she gets through, others would have stormed the chamber, just as they did in other parts of the Capitol. The difference at this location was it was the last line of defense into the House chamber where some lawmakers and staff were still holed up.

 

[XponentialChaos]

She was, but that isn't a reason to shoot her.

So you can stop your bullshit about her ”halfway hanging through a broken window“ or how far through the window she got.

She was trying to get through. That’s why she was shot. Not a smart decision by her.

 

[Faun]

he was advancing directly on a police officer. He was also a big ass dude.

And she was advancing into a restricted area were lawmakers were being evacuated.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Walk away dickless, you lost.

You lost the moment you tried to twist my argument.

You suck at debating and Ashli Dumbbitch is still dead. Cry for me.

 

[Marener]

And shooting blindly through those doors would have been another violation of deadly force rules.

No one ever suggested shooting blindly through doors would be appropriate.

Shooting people coming through those doors is reasonable.

 

[martybegan]

A mob is an immediate threat
She was leading a violent mob that injured 140 police officers

And yet not one other single officer opened fire.

 

[martybegan]

Bullshit. If she gets through, others would have stormed the chamber, just as they did in other parts of the Capitol. The difference at this location was it was the last line of defense into the House chamber where some lawmakers and staff were still holed up.

Again, not enough to warrant deadly force.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They should have, marybegan.