Nevadans Will Have An Opportunity To Vote To Close The "Gunshow Loophole"

[SYTFE]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

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Nevadans For Background Checks

 

[SYTFE]

Looking forward to seeing what this thread looks like tomorrow when all the gun nuts show up...

 

[Mertex]

Looking forward to seeing what this thread looks like tomorrow when all the gun nuts show up...

I'm convinced that those who are against stricter gun laws are the same ones that support Trump....you can't fix stupid.

 

[westwall]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

Vote YES on 1!

Nevadans For Background Checks

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

 

[Spare_change]

Looking forward to seeing what this thread looks like tomorrow when all the gun nuts show up...

I'm convinced that those who are against stricter gun laws are the same ones that support Trump....you can't fix stupid.

Why don't you enlighten all of us?

Explain how this new intrusion into my rights is going to make me safer.

 

[Spare_change]

Looking forward to seeing what this thread looks like tomorrow when all the gun nuts show up...

Let me guess ... anybody who opposes this intrusion is a "gun nut", right?

 

[Spare_change]

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

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Nevadans For Background Checks

I'm curious --- 1904 sales stopped --- 501 to felons and 374 to various and sundry other bad guys ...

Who were the other 1,029 other people who were refused? What criteria says you can't have a gun even if you aren't a felon or domestic abuser, etc.?

How many of those 1,904 obtained guns via another method?

 

[SYTFE]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

 

[westwall]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

No, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. The Nevada Sheriffs Association has taken a close look and the law as written does NONE of the things you claim. Thus they have come out against it as a law that affects only the law abiding and will do nothing to stop crime.

"The majority of Nevada sheriffs this week came out in public opposition to Question One, a poorly written gun control initiative on the ballot this November. The top law enforcement officers are jumping into the political fray and working to defeat the gun control initiative, which is largely bankrolled by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Question One would impose new government mandates and fees on nearly all private transfers of firearms in Nevada.

"This is further evidence of the strong grassroots support for freedom in Nevada," said Robert Uithoven, NRA Nevadans for Freedom campaign director. "Our sheriffs have taken a close look at this ballot initiative and a majority of them have concluded it would not keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Instead, it would cost law-abiding citizens time, money, and freedom. Nevadans have long-embraced freedom, and we expect they will do so again on this issue.""



http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2016/07/31/most-nevada-sheriffs-against-gun-background-check-initiative/87885698/?utm_medium=['twitter']&utm_source=['dlvr.it']

 

[Spare_change]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

You're aware, of course, that this exempts virtually EVERY gun sale .. unless, of course, the idiot claims he's going to use it for nefarious purposes.

Also, if this is to be the new rule ... what was the old rule that resulted in the 1,904 rejections? How many more would this "new rule" reject?

 

[westwall]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

You're aware, of course, that this exempts virtually EVERY gun sale .. unless, of course, the idiot claims he's going to use it for nefarious purposes.

Also, if this is to be the new rule ... what was the old rule that resulted in the 1,904 rejections? How many more would this "new rule" reject?

He's lying. The law as written contains none of the exemptions claimed unless they have been added into it within the last three weeks which I think is against the law.

 

[Spare_change]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

You're aware, of course, that this exempts virtually EVERY gun sale .. unless, of course, the idiot claims he's going to use it for nefarious purposes.

Also, if this is to be the new rule ... what was the old rule that resulted in the 1,904 rejections? How many more would this "new rule" reject?

He's lying. The law as written contains none of the exemptions claimed unless they have been added into it within the last three weeks which I think is against the law.

Lying?

I am EVER so shocked !!

 

[pwjohn]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

Vote YES on 1!

Nevadans For Background Checks

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

If you loan a gun to a friend or relative that's unable to buy a gun legally that's later discovered to have been used in the commission of a crime, than you should be held both criminally and financially responsible. As a matter of fact, I strongly suspect there are already laws on the books for your brand of stupidity that will do just that.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

After having been to Nevada and lived in Nevada, gun control will not pass.

 

[eflatminor]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

Vote YES on 1!

Nevadans For Background Checks

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

If you loan a gun to a friend or relative that's unable to buy a gun legally that's later discovered to have been used in the commission of a crime, than you should be held both criminally and financially responsible. As a matter of fact, I strongly suspect there are already laws on the books for your brand of stupidity that will do just that.

Yes, it is already illegal to give or sell a firearm to a felon.

Thanks for making our point. More background checks are not only useless but they're a poll tax on our right of self protection.

Walked right into that one.

 

[TooTall]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

Vote YES on 1!

Nevadans For Background Checks

In Georgia a background check is required at all gun shows when you buy a gun from any of the dealers.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

Not too good at that there readin' stuff are ya?

The Background Check Initiative exempts certain transfers from the background check requirement:

• Transfers by or to a law enforcement agency or a peace officer, security guard, or member of the armed forces acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties;
• Transfers of antique firearms;
• Transfers between immediate family members, which means spouses and domes- tic partners and any of the following relations, whether by whole or half blood, adoption, or step-relation: parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews.
• Transfers to executors of estates or trusts that occur upon the death of the owner of a gun;
• Temporary transfers for self-defense, hunting and trapping, target-shooting, and organized competitions and performances;
• Temporary transfers that occur exclusively while in the presence of the transferor, provided the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is prohibited from having guns or will use the gun in a crime.

Now... FUCK YOU.

so you want to pass a law then exempt everyone from having to obey it

--LOL

 

[Silent Warrior]

Move on. Nothing to see here. Just another anti-gun nut job opening his mouth to display his empty head. As the other NJ said, “you can't fix stupid.” Proving him wrong won't work because his mind is unable to accept facts.

 

[pwjohn]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law that make it all too easy for felons, domestic abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns. We have the right to bear arms, but with rights come responsibilities. The Background Check Initiative will improve public safety in Nevada by requiring background checks for all gun sales, with reasonable exceptions for family, hunting, and self-defense.

Myth
Nevada already requires background checks for gun sales, so we don't need any new laws.

Fact
Under current law, background checks are only required for gun sales at licensed dealers. Millions of guns change hands each year between unlicensed buyers and sellers, including strangers who meet online or at gun shows -- no background check required, no questions asked. (Philip J. Cook & Jens Ludwig, Guns in America, 1996, available at http://safenevada.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Cook-Ludwig-Guns-in-America-1997.pdf)

Myth
Background checks don't work because criminals will break the law and get guns anyway.

Fact
In 2013 alone, background checks at licensed gun dealers in Nevada stopped 1,904 gun sales to prohibited people -- including 501 to felons and 374 to people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to domestic violence protection orders. Closing loopholes in the background check law will make it even harder for criminals and other dangerous people to buy guns. (Everytown for Gun Safety analysis of FBI data, February 12, 2014.)

Vote YES on 1!

Nevadans For Background Checks

Hell no. It makes it a crime to loan a gun to a relative for a hunting trip. It makes it a crime for a soldier to leave his guns with an uncle while he is deployed. The law is a piece of shit pimped on the people of Nevada by a billionaire scumbag who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and who employs dozens of armed guards to protect his miserable ass.

Fuck him, and fuck you for being a brainless toad trying to push this crap down Nevadans throats.

If you loan a gun to a friend or relative that's unable to buy a gun legally that's later discovered to have been used in the commission of a crime, than you should be held both criminally and financially responsible. As a matter of fact, I strongly suspect there are already laws on the books for your brand of stupidity that will do just that.

Yes, it is already illegal to give or sell a firearm to a felon.

Thanks for making our point. More background checks are not only useless but they're a poll tax on our right of self protection.

Walked right into that one.

That, is pointless bs on your part.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Background Check Initiative is a common-sense proposal that will close loopholes in Nevada law....

As it is impossible to legally avoid the background checks prescribed by law, there are no loopholes in Nevada law, or federal law
Thus, there is no common sense to be found here.

Rather than parrot the talking points handed to you like a good useful idiot, why don't you at least try to understand an issue before selling yourself for cheap?