Netflix show highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

[EvilEyeFleegle]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
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“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

 

[miketx]

Way to go ice!

 

[Meathead]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
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“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

So what?

 

[Bronwyn]

Netflix ran it's show. They had their rights. No one denied them their 1st amendment rights. ICE has every right to curtail aiding and abetting criminal illegals.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
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“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

So what?

I'm in favor of what ICE did..but I also do not like violations of the Constitution...for any cause. Bad precedent.

"So what"..is what the Govt. likes to hear.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7,

They should have taken over the phone number and used the information they gathered to deport the
illegal aliens who called.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7,

They should have taken over the phone number and used the information they gathered to deport the
illegal aliens who called.

I agree..but that's another political non-starter...

 

[Ringel05]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

Uuummmmm, looks to me like the advocacy group is playing fast and loose with the rules, claiming First Amendment rights in order to bring attention to the rules and get them changed.
Not really sure where in the legal code this issue will ultimately lay as there are multiple areas within the Constitution besides the 1st Amendment that are at issue here, primarily the 10th Amendment's Interstate Commerce Clause and how it applies to the FCC, Immigration and associated criminal codes. This one's probably pretty legally convoluted.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

“Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??”

Yes.

Is what ICE did a First Amendment violation?

It’s possible.

Is the censorship content neutral? Are there other ample avenues of communication? What’s the government’s intent to engage in such censorship?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Netflix ran it's show. They had their rights. No one denied them their 1st amendment rights. ICE has every right to curtail aiding and abetting criminal illegals.

Wrong.

Undocumented immigrants are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of the law – due process including the 6th Amendment right to legal representation.

If an undocumented immigrant seeking asylum has a legitimate refugee claim, he should be allowed to pursue that claim with the assistance of a competent immigration lawyer.

And there’s nothing wrong or illegal about providing information to immigrants seeking asylum concerning immigration law and how to contact an attorney.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7,

They should have taken over the phone number and used the information they gathered to deport the
illegal aliens who called.

Absent due process, of course.

The right’s contempt for the rule of law is reprehensible.

 

[Bronwyn]

Netflix ran it's show. They had their rights. No one denied them their 1st amendment rights. ICE has every right to curtail aiding and abetting criminal illegals.

Wrong.

Undocumented immigrants are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of the law – due process including the 6th Amendment right to legal representation.

If an undocumented immigrant seeking asylum has a legitimate refugee claim, he should be allowed to pursue that claim with the assistance of a competent immigration lawyer.

And there’s nothing wrong or illegal about providing information to immigrants seeking asylum concerning immigration law and how to contact an attorney.

They may have the right to due process but no one has the right to aid and abet a criminal. These are criminals by the definition of the law. They will have their due process if they are asking for asylum. They will be sent to a detention facility back over the border to wait their turn just like everyone else. Oh and it's not "undocumented immigrants". They are illegal aliens per the law.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

This is interesting..not because they shut this down, again....but because of the timing....a conspiracy guy..might look askance at the timing. Is this constitutional rights violation? If so, whose?

‘Orange Is the New Black’ highlighted an immigrant hotline. Then ICE shut it down.

"In the seventh season of Netflix’s “Orange Is the New Black,” the fictional character, played by Diane Guerrero, had an immigration hearing coming up, but like many immigrants, she didn’t have an attorney. How could she stop her own deportation without help? In the freezer’s secrecy, her incarcerated friends told her not to worry: They had found a group online, Freedom for Immigrants, offering a hotline for detainees in need of a free lawyer to call.
“But you have to be careful, though,” their friend Gloria told Maritza. “Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.”
This month, less than two weeks after the seventh season of the show premiered, Gloria’s warning has become reality: Real-life U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has shut down the real-life Freedom for Immigrants hotline intended for immigrants who can’t afford attorneys, the group said Friday.
To the nonprofit organization, the timing is not a coincidence.
Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
“I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the shut down of our hotline is motivated by anything but ICE’s desire to silence one of its loudest critics,” Cynthia M. Galaz, Freedom for Immigrants’ national hotline director, said in a statement to The Washington Post.
According to the organization, ICE blocked detainees from being able to call the hotline free of charge on Aug. 7 following the release of “Orange Is the New Black” Season 7, which portrays the pain of deportation, the bleak conditions of immigration detention and the lack of rights afforded to immigrants — such as the right to an attorney. On Thursday, Galaz and co-founder Christina Fialho sent a cease-and-desist letter to ICE, expressing concern that the national attention brought to the group through the show has led the government to retaliate. They argue that it amounts to a breach of the First Amendment, especially given the group and the show’s advocacy against ICE detention."

Does the 1st amendment protect fiction? A Netflix series??

Hotline supported by Soros and the Foundations, helped along by the ACLU and others I am sure. Anything to over throw the NATIONS Government.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Netflix ran it's show. They had their rights. No one denied them their 1st amendment rights. ICE has every right to curtail aiding and abetting criminal illegals.

Wrong.

Undocumented immigrants are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of the law – due process including the 6th Amendment right to legal representation.

If an undocumented immigrant seeking asylum has a legitimate refugee claim, he should be allowed to pursue that claim with the assistance of a competent immigration lawyer.

And there’s nothing wrong or illegal about providing information to immigrants seeking asylum concerning immigration law and how to contact an attorney.

They may have the right to due process but no one has the right to aid and abet a criminal. These are criminals by the definition of the law. They will have their due process if they are asking for asylum. They will be sent to a detention facility back over the border to wait their turn just like everyone else. Oh and it's not "undocumented immigrants". They are illegal aliens per the law.

Offering legal assistance is not aiding and abetting a criminal. Not in an illegal sense. Anyone is free to seek a lawyer or ask legal advice. Also anyone is free to offer said advice.

Agree about the illegal aliens..enough with the euphemisms already!