Negotiations Have Ended

[candycorn]

JD vance says "no deal" because the Iranians wouldn't agree to his terms.

The Iranians say the US made unreasonable demands.

At this point I'd say their credibility is about even so it's anyone's guess what really happened.

Middle East crisis live: JD Vance says US and Iran fail to reach deal; Iran state media blames ‘unreasonable’ US demands

US vice-president says Iran chose not to accept American terms for a deal, including to not build nuclear weapons

www.theguardian.com

Then there is this:

Now the Chinese are selling missiles to Iran....

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/politics/china-iran-war-missiles-supplies.html

We should impose tariffs on them or something!!!! LOL

What happens when their destroyers start escorting tankers out of the persian gulf? We going to fire on them?

 

[MarathonMike]

//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

BREAKING: VP JD Vance Announces No Deal Reached with Iran After Marathon 21-Hour Negotiations, 'Bad News for Iran Much More Than for the U.S.' (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cassandra MacDonald

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Good. You can't negotiate with vermin. Arm the Iranian people with drones and anything else they want. Continue the targeting with our air superiority. I also think the DOW needs to focus on getting internet back up in Iran. It's tough to locate and knockout the GPS jammers Iran is using to disable Starlink.

 

[Samofvt]

So what happens now? Ground troops?

For the 3rd time in 40 years (all under GOP presidents) we're going to go to war in the middle east. How'd the first 2 turn out?

Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Trump wants to open the straight of Hormuz...when it was open before the war started. Crazy, am I right?

 

[candycorn]

Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.

And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?

 

[skye]

Trump wants to open the straight of Hormuz...when it was open before the war started. Crazy, am I right?

No shit.

 

[candycorn]

Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.

PS: In Iraq alone:

20 years...nearly $3T.

#winning?

 

[Robert W]

So we’re parsing out finger rape again

Ever hear of a finger getting a woman pregnant? I will explain what a woman is since you don't know.

 

[Samofvt]

And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?

What isn't up in price? In 1985, I remember when gas hit $1.00 per gallon because I was working at the local gas station. Plugging that into an inflation estimator, I come up with $3.10 in today's equivalent dollars. So current pricing isn't that unreasonable. Some may be due to the shutdown of American production over the past 6 years.

BTW, this is all stupid as far as energy prices. If we were smart, we could manufacture our own fuel for much less than that. But politics interferes with free markets.

And speaking about free markets and innovation, why do we import half of our chicken meat from China when we could produce it here at home? Food production on your own land so you can feed your family and neighbors should be a human right. Not something controlled by whatever collective is currently in power.

 

[Samofvt]

No shit.

No, shit. if they were peaceful and not launching missiles and drones from Lebanon into Israel and other peaceful Arab countries, there would be no problem.

So no, shit.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Trump wants to open the straight of Hormuz...when it was open before the war started. Crazy, am I right?

And…?

 

[dblack]

He’s now saying he’ll pardon everyone no matter why they have done

Trump Promises To Pardon Everyone In His Orbit Before Leaving Office: WSJ

www.huffpost.com

Hey if you want to get people to do stuff they might get prosecuted for later… what better way to get what you want

Right?

Ghislaine's heart is a flutter.

 

[Hollie]

So what happens now? Ground troops?

For the 3rd time in 40 years (all under GOP presidents) we're going to go to war in the middle east. How'd the first 2 turn out?

Stop the pointless melodrama. We clear the straits and the mullocrats go screw.

 

[Votto]

//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

BREAKING: VP JD Vance Announces No Deal Reached with Iran After Marathon 21-Hour Negotiations, 'Bad News for Iran Much More Than for the U.S.' (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cassandra MacDonald

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

No, I think that Iran has leverage.

As I said before, Iran is not going to agree to any terms. Their leverage is the oil and the straits of Hormuz. They know that Trump is desperate for them to be reopened, so as to do as little to the world economy as possible. But with Iran not agreeing, it helps keep oil prices high, thus helping to tank the world economy and GOP success in the midterms.

Iran also knows that the US does not have the political will to send ground forces in to finish the job, so they can maintain their position indefinitely.

 

[Hollie]

Trump wants to open the straight of Hormuz...when it was open before the war started. Crazy, am I right?

Trump wanted to prevent your mullocrat heroes from developing nukes, like presidents before him who did basically nothing.

The goal is achieved.

Crazy, right?

 

[leftwinger]

And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?

SHUP you know it was $3.50 out west doing nothing mostly since the Corpase days.

 

[Samofvt]

Trump wanted to prevent your mullocrat heroes from developing nukes, like presidents before him who did basically nothing.

The goal is achieved.

Crazy, right?

Na. I disagree. The goal is far from achieved. 47 years of constant war in the middle east is enough.

If you consider the power structure backing the IRGC, then you must understand that it is the middle-eastern arm of the Russian/Chinese-Communist conglomeration.

I dislike any war because all life is precious. But there is no other nation on Earth that can lift tyranny from the backs of the good people of Persia. Did you or did you not observe that the IRGC is continuing to slaughter political opponents even today?

I heard the Green Mountain Boys out practicing the other day. They are one man down, and the silence from the missing F-35 was harder to bear than the deafening roar of their engines. A reminder that freedom is not free.

 

[Mac-7]

JD Vance just announced that the ceasefire talks are over with no success on an agreement with Iran.



Earlier, it was reported that the U.S. has managed to put some Navy ships (destroyers) in the strait to start clearing mines.

If we are not attacked, I think the two-week ceasefire should hold, and hopefully, Iran will resume negotiations before the two-week ceasefire expires.

Compromise with jihadi’s is impossible

We should keep pounding them till they fall

 

[EdwinAMartin]

JD Vance just announced that the ceasefire talks are over with no success on an agreement with Iran.



Earlier, it was reported that the U.S. has managed to put some Navy ships (destroyers) in the strait to start clearing mines.

If we are not attacked, I think the two-week ceasefire should hold, and hopefully, Iran will resume negotiations before the two-week ceasefire expires.

Good. The vermin wouldn't have kept their word anyway. Now, time to shut down the supplies coming in from Turkey, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and keep hammering at those IRG bases and depots.

 

[Failzero]

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