National real ID card create internal passports that will enable Orwellian surveillance state

[MindWars]

Quietly, the federal government has moved forward with its plan to implement REAL ID, a national identification card that every American will be forced to have in order to enter a federal building or board an airplane by next year.

National REAL ID Cards Create ‘Internal Passports’ That Will Enable Orwellian Surveillance State

You can laugh , you can deny . you can whatever but trust us when it smacks you in the face you will know it...........

and of course a.j warned abut this years ago.........

 

[harmonica]

..this is good for national security....you have to provide your Birth Certificate and/or passport/proof of residence/SSN/etc...no problem
...why would you not want this??

 

[MindWars]

..this is good for national security....you have to provide your Birth Certificate and/or passport/proof of residence/SSN/etc...no problem
...why would you not want this??

no it's not dig deeper.

 

[MindWars]

Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-

5 Problems with National ID Cards

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Did you celebrate the arrival of criminal aliens because they were looking for a better life.

Then this is your fault.

 

[MindWars]

Last but not least

EPIC - National ID and the REAL ID Act

 

[MindWars]

Everyone is telling you but some of you aren't . paying attention.

Five reasons why national ID cards are a bad idea

https://epic.org/privacy/id_cards/real_id_act.pdf

 

[harmonica]

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Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-

5 Problems with National ID Cards

times change--this is not 1850 or 1950....

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

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Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-

5 Problems with National ID Cards

times change--this is not 1850 or 1950....

Its 1984.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-

5 Problems with National ID Cards

times change--this is not 1850 or 1950....

Its 1984.

Can the Cubs beat the Padres this time?

 

[eagle1462010]

You are not required to get the Star Drivers License or Real I.D. You can get a Passport and use it as your official i.d. in it's stead. After November 2020 you will need a Star License, Passport, or a Military I.D. to fly in the U.S. Or to go into Federal Buildings that require I.D.

It's not that big of a deal.

 

[KissMy]

Real ID is now required to drive, fly, vote, enter government buildings, banking, transactions, cross borders, etc. They contain RFID transponders that send info & track your movements just like passports. Government records your location history & can pinpoint your current location. Republican fascist big government surveillance state now controls (us) as it's subjects.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Real ID is now required to drive, fly, vote, enter government buildings, banking, transactions, cross borders, etc. They contain RFID transponders that send info & track your movements just like passports. Government records your location history & can pinpoint your current location. Republican fascist big government surveillance state now controls (us) as it's subjects.

My Real Illinois ID doesn't contain any tracking devices.

 

[KissMy]

Republicans are trying to strip free speech from teens & those without Big Government's "Real ID". They are attempting to force anyone using social media to post their Real Photo ID's & a live photo. This will block communications with out of state users.

(R) State Rep. Jared Patterson filed HB896 this week that, if passed, would require users to prove their age using a photo ID as well as a second photo of the person with the photo ID.

 

[Skylar]

Republicans are trying to strip free speech from teens & those without Big Government's "Real ID". They are attempting to force anyone using social media to post their Real Photo ID's & a live photo. This will block communications with out of state users.

(R) State Rep. Jared Patterson filed HB896 this week that, if passed, would require users to prove their age using a photo ID as well as a second photo of the person with the photo ID.

I love Texas. I lived there for years. But it is a State of Karens.

 

[Skylar]

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Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-

5 Problems with National ID Cards

Those are actually pretty good arguments.