Nancy gambled and lost

[Biff_Poindexter]

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time.

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?

So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.

Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.

What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???

You won't know until he's on the stand.

Why are you so afraid of H.B. testifying ?

Seems like you and Chuck Schumer are the same type of lying hypocrite.

She didn't say she was afraid...

She ASKED -- what can Hunter Biden testify to as it pertains to Trump withholding congressionally approved military aid in exchange for an announcement about a sham investigation about Hunter?? Was he on the call too?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

 

[Circe]

I say hold your thread until Pelosi actually DOES lose.

It's a little premature. Things happen.

I want to see the charges dismissed at once: that would fix the problem. I am betting I won't get that ---

 

[Circe]

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Sure --- Nancy demanded witnesses. She hasn't really lost yet. She can still smoke up the situation till nobody can figure out what is going on, and that's her intention. She's forced McConnell to have SOME sort of ersatz trial rather than simple dismissal, and that's not a total loss for her.

I think youse guys underestimate Pelosi. Probably because she's a woman. She's a very shrewd politician.

 

[22lcidw]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Nancy failed when she pushed Obamacare and the disastrous results. She should have left under shame. But Progs do not leave easily as shame means nothing. Especially Prog women. There are a good percentage of voters who will never trust these people ever again. And they are not right wing conservatives either. Millennials did not purchase Obamacare. But they did support it. Do you get it? They want the agendas without paying for it. They are already charged wit paying for the massive elderly generation retiring as that generation funded near everything we have.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Look, this is like writing a script for a movie where every viewer knows from the beginning how it's going to end. Trump will not be removed from office. Period.

Pelosi and all of the Democrats in Congress and all of the pundits on non-Fox outlets are throwing every bit of shit they can at Trump, hoping to damage him in spite of the known final outcome. The delay was not a mistake. It was intended to give the Democrats more time to throw shit at the President, and it succeeded. Every day there is a new shocking revelation about one or another communication or alliance or relationship...it's all meaningless bullshit but that doesn't stop the Dems and the Media from proclaiming it "damning" and "damaging" and "catastrophic" for the President.

It might even be a strategy to sabotage the Presidential campaigns of Senators Sanders and Warren, by keeping them in Washington during the final days of the Iowa campaign. Adult Democrats (who are rare but do exist) know that neither Sanders nor Warren can beat Donald Trump, so will do everything they can to help the Biden campaign.

So the President of the United States withholds aid until the President of the Ukraine announces an investigation into a political rival is OK with you.

Learning that Trump's personal lawyer was sent to add more pressure does not matter.

And no announcement was ever made and Trump released the funds 3 weeks early. But the prosecutor WAS fired for Biden.

 

[kwc57]

Look, this is like writing a script for a movie where every viewer knows from the beginning how it's going to end. Trump will not be removed from office. Period.

Pelosi and all of the Democrats in Congress and all of the pundits on non-Fox outlets are throwing every bit of shit they can at Trump, hoping to damage him in spite of the known final outcome. The delay was not a mistake. It was intended to give the Democrats more time to throw shit at the President, and it succeeded. Every day there is a new shocking revelation about one or another communication or alliance or relationship...it's all meaningless bullshit but that doesn't stop the Dems and the Media from proclaiming it "damning" and "damaging" and "catastrophic" for the President.

It might even be a strategy to sabotage the Presidential campaigns of Senators Sanders and Warren, by keeping them in Washington during the final days of the Iowa campaign. Adult Democrats (who are rare but do exist) know that neither Sanders nor Warren can beat Donald Trump, so will do everything they can to help the Biden campaign.

So the President of the United States withholds aid until the President of the Ukraine announces an investigation into a political rival is OK with you.

Learning that Trump's personal lawyer was sent to add more pressure does not matter.

Kindly post the announcement by the Ukraine President and tell us how much of the aid Ukraine didn't receive please. I can post the Ukraine President saying he never felt pressure to do anything. You need to quit watching MSNBC and reading the NYT and come to reality. The air is much fresher up here.

 

[lantern2814]

She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

Of course a water carrying libtard like you thinks she “won”. Got NO concessions, told to fuck off and pound sand, and got called out by members of her own party for her utter stupidity. Yet the Dims think they won? Hahahah!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?

So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.

Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.

What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???

You won't know until he's on the stand.

Why are you so afraid of H.B. testifying ?

Seems like you and Chuck Schumer are the same type of lying hypocrite.

Lying hippoc rite?
The limit of your imagination?
And where is he and where are you mr zero college rube.?
Can you remind us?

If you are in any way implying that Schumer is smarter.....please make your case.

If you are in any way implying his position is to be envied (and people should desire to change places with him), think again....if you think.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time.

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?

Because you don't have the votes to just skip a trial and have a vote.....

Because of how much of a failure Pelosi is...

And where is she and where are you mr PhD rube?
Whining from your double wide sucking off your commie SS Medicare?

In this country we speak English...or at least a language that is coherent.....

If you don't like making sense, get out of my country!!

#MAGA

Where is she.....?

On the edge of going down in history as the most inept and stupid looking speaker of the house.



Look at 1:00

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?

So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.

Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.

What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???

You won't know until he's on the stand.

Why are you so afraid of H.B. testifying ?

Seems like you and Chuck Schumer are the same type of lying hypocrite.

She didn't say she was afraid...

She ASKED -- what can Hunter Biden testify to as it pertains to Trump withholding congressionally approved military aid in exchange for an announcement about a sham investigation about Hunter?? Was he on the call too?

Then she'll have no problem letting him testify. Thank.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Sure --- Nancy demanded witnesses. She hasn't really lost yet. She can still smoke up the situation till nobody can figure out what is going on, and that's her intention. She's forced McConnell to have SOME sort of ersatz trial rather than simple dismissal, and that's not a total loss for her.

I think youse guys underestimate Pelosi. Probably because she's a woman. She's a very shrewd politician.

The way you Trumpers project shit you are actually doing onto others is adorable....

Hearing from witnesses with DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the matter at hand is not "smoking up the situation"

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.

Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.

What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???

You won't know until he's on the stand.

Why are you so afraid of H.B. testifying ?

Seems like you and Chuck Schumer are the same type of lying hypocrite.

She didn't say she was afraid...

She ASKED -- what can Hunter Biden testify to as it pertains to Trump withholding congressionally approved military aid in exchange for an announcement about a sham investigation about Hunter?? Was he on the call too?

Then she'll have no problem letting him testify. Thank.

She doesn't have a choice -- Pelosi is speaker of the house....

I know you cucks think Pelosi controls everything, but its Mitch McConnell who can decide on whether to call Hunter, no one else....

Why do you think he is so reluctant to do it?? Because he knows hearing from Mulvaney, Bolton, Perry, Giuliani, Pompeo is much worse than republicans taking turns asking Hunter dumb shit that Trump's own Attorney General never thought to ask him....

You do understand that the FBI and DOJ are free to investigate Hunter right?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Nancy failed when she pushed Obamacare and the disastrous results. She should have left under shame. But Progs do not leave easily as shame means nothing. Especially Prog women. There are a good percentage of voters who will never trust these people ever again. And they are not right wing conservatives either. Millennials did not purchase Obamacare. But they did support it. Do you get it? They want the agendas without paying for it. They are already charged wit paying for the massive elderly generation retiring as that generation funded near everything we have.

Aint Obamacare the same health care law that Trump is taking credit for??

I swear you trumpers are super stupid....

 

[Ame®icano]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

"evidence keeps mounting"

LOL

Let me guess, the walls are closing in, it's beginning of the end, and another bombshell.

 

[Ame®icano]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Yeah, what changed?

Maybe an opportunity to expose the left for good. Why to waste the chance like this?

 

[Care4all]

She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

Of course a water carrying libtard like you thinks she “won”. Got NO concessions, told to fuck off and pound sand, and got called out by members of her own party for her utter stupidity. Yet the Dims think they won? Hahahah!

What universe do you live in?

Stay away from your right wing fake news for a day, you need the rest.... and your inside, rotting soul, could see a break as well imho!!!

She accomplished what she set out to accomplish.... the trial will now, likely have witnesses.... McConnell was shamed for his The fix is in, partiality while having to take an oath of impartiality and is now being watched like a hawk, to see if he breaks his sworn oath..... the Democratic Senators running in the primary for president got to participate in last night's debate before being sequestered for the trial, the whole Christmas break, was talk about the impeachment and Pelosi held back sending them to the Senate, giving Democratic congress critters time at home with their constituents to explain their votes and inform them on the articles of impeachment......

And it allowed time for even more incriminating facts and evidence to come forth..... even if new witnesses and evidence is not allowed, it will be covered in depth, by the press.

What did McConnell get?

He thought or hoped perhaps, it could be dismissed immediately... That's not happening now

He thought or hoped there would be no new witnesses... looks likely that there will be now....

I'm not trying to rub your face in this, I am just saying, what I see as facts.... And I truly do not see my analysis of what just went down, as an unreasonable summary of the actual facts.

 

[Billiejeens]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

You dont seem to understand the process.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

She is well aware that the House cannot force the Senate of McConnell to do a fair and honest trial. That is a given. But she is making Moscow show his cards. The evidence against Trump keeps mounting. Parnus has come clean now.

You idiots are hilarious.

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Nancy failed when she pushed Obamacare and the disastrous results. She should have left under shame. But Progs do not leave easily as shame means nothing. Especially Prog women. There are a good percentage of voters who will never trust these people ever again. And they are not right wing conservatives either. Millennials did not purchase Obamacare. But they did support it. Do you get it? They want the agendas without paying for it. They are already charged wit paying for the massive elderly generation retiring as that generation funded near everything we have.

Aint Obamacare the same health care law that Trump is taking credit for??

I swear you trumpers are super stupid....

Boy......I feel so bad.

And to think we still beat your ass.

We have Gorsuch and Kavennaugh....and you have......well.......you have hope.

 

[kwc57]

Why didn't McConnell skip a trial and just dismiss the articles of impeachment like he said he would??

Did he think he had the votes back then and now he doesn't?? Hmmm....why?? Did something happen in between now and then?

Sure --- Nancy demanded witnesses. She hasn't really lost yet. She can still smoke up the situation till nobody can figure out what is going on, and that's her intention. She's forced McConnell to have SOME sort of ersatz trial rather than simple dismissal, and that's not a total loss for her.

I think youse guys underestimate Pelosi. Probably because she's a woman. She's a very shrewd politician.

The way you Trumpers project shit you are actually doing onto others is adorable....

Hearing from witnesses with DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the matter at hand is not "smoking up the situation"

Odd that Schiff and Nadler never called anyone with direct knowledge, no? The whole thing was Rep's hand puppets who had absolutely no knowledge other than what they had heard talking about their shitty opinions and feelings on two of the most nebulous concepts they could devise as charges. Didn't Schiff have hard factual evidence of crimes committed by Trump during the previous three years? Did his dog eat them or was he a lying sack of shit? No need to answer, it was a rhetorical question.