Mystery In Wuhan: Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Negative ... Then Positive

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This is not good. So much for eventual herd immunity.


A spate of mysterious second-time infections is calling into question the accuracy of COVID-19 diagnostic tools even as China prepares to lift quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its outbreak next month. It's also raising concerns of a possible second wave of cases.

From March 18-22, the Chinese city of Wuhan reported no new cases of the virus through domestic transmission — that is, infection passed on from one person to another. The achievement was seen as a turning point in efforts to contain the virus, which has infected more than 80,000 people in China. Wuhan was particularly hard-hit, with more than half of all confirmed cases in the country.

But some Wuhan residents who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again.
 

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A spate of mysterious second-time infections is calling into question the accuracy of COVID-19 diagnostic tools even as China prepares to lift quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its outbreak next month. It's also raising concerns of a possible second wave of cases.

From March 18-22, the Chinese city of Wuhan reported no new cases of the virus through domestic transmission — that is, infection passed on from one person to another. The achievement was seen as a turning point in efforts to contain the virus, which has infected more than 80,000 people in China. Wuhan was particularly hard-hit, with more than half of all confirmed cases in the country.

But some Wuhan residents who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again.
Maybe it has something to do with immunity? Maybe the test is picking that up?
 

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It is going to depend on the vaccine that they were given, if they have a similar viral component or antibody already in their systems. Plus false positives and false negatives are a common problem for many similar viruses. Do a search using these phrases; false positives and false negatives, coronavirus, influenza.
 

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Their biggest money maker is plasma fractions, treatments claimed to have good success are the blood products they are developing.
 

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This is not good. So much for eventual herd immunity.

If true: Catastrophic.

It's time we re-test "recovered" patients. ASAP. Can you even imagine "recovered" patients gladly visiting granny again?

Let's just hope it's fake news.
 

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From the article there are false positives and negatives for testing.

IIRC I seem to also remember someone saying that someone could still be shedding virus up to 21 days after recovery.

Too early to draw a solid conclusion on this I think, but it definitely bears watching.

Also interesting how the Chinese are not reporting/counting asymptomatic cases, although one doctor reporting seeing a dozen per day. ONE doctor. Odd that, now isn't it, almost as if they're trying to intentionally falsify data....
 

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The question is can one get sick more than once from this virus.
Too early to tell. I know a dude who had Malaria twice and Dengue has two classes. Regular(which I had) and a hemorrhagic that is a one time also.....if you live through it
 

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This is not good. So much for eventual herd immunity.


A spate of mysterious second-time infections is calling into question the accuracy of COVID-19 diagnostic tools even as China prepares to lift quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its outbreak next month. It's also raising concerns of a possible second wave of cases.

From March 18-22, the Chinese city of Wuhan reported no new cases of the virus through domestic transmission — that is, infection passed on from one person to another. The achievement was seen as a turning point in efforts to contain the virus, which has infected more than 80,000 people in China. Wuhan was particularly hard-hit, with more than half of all confirmed cases in the country.

But some Wuhan residents who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again.
not this past winter - but last winter, even though i got the vaccine ( which they missed the boat on the actual circulating virus) i ended up getting it twice. the symptoms were less severe, but 2 freakin' times. so why not this which is even stronger?
 

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It would appear not to be fake:

Coronavirus reappears in discharged patients as questions remain about re-infection

A man who was discharged from one of the makeshift hospitals built to contain the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China, has reportedly died from respiratory failure, raising questions about the longevity of the COVID-19 virus and the unknowns about re-infection.

The 36-year-old man had been discharged with instructions to stay in a quarantine hotel, but returned to a hospital after five days, where he later died, according to the South China Morning Post, which reported that the man’s death certificate listed his cause of death as COVID-19.

The news comes on the heels of a report from the Japanese government that a woman from Osaka tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time.​

I am beginning to hate the phrase "not yet fully understood."
 

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It would appear not to be fake:

A man who was discharged from one of the makeshift hospitals built to contain the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China, has reportedly died from respiratory failure, raising questions about the longevity of the COVID-19 virus and the unknowns about re-infection.​
The 36-year-old man had been discharged with instructions to stay in a quarantine hotel, but returned to a hospital after five days, where he later died, according to the South China Morning Post, which reported that the man’s death certificate listed his cause of death as COVID-19.​
The news comes on the heels of a report from the Japanese government that a woman from Osaka tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time.​

I am beginning to hate the phrase "not yet fully understood."
Of course, it could be that neither was fully healed.
 

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Song Tie, vice director of the local disease control center in southern China’s Guangdong province, told a media briefing on Wednesday that as many as 14% of discharged patients in the province have tested positive again and had returned to hospitals for observation.​
 

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