My growing disdain for W. Bush!

[surada]

Maybe y'all weren't informed enough. Harry Truman sent Troops to Korea on an (illegal) executive order. He mishandled the conflict to the point that we ended up after a three year quagmire right where we started at the loss of anywhere from 35,000 to 50,000 Americans. LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam based on a faked crisis. Bill Clinton bombed Europe without permission from congress after he was caught with his pants down. George Bush sought and received permission from congress (36% of democrats) for boots on the ground in Iraq. The intention was to force Saddam to comply with about a hundred U.N. sanctions. WMD's were way down on the list although Bill Clinton also claimed they were there. Iraq was one of the most successful U.S. military missions in modern history and democrats hated Bush for it. When the conflict was over democrats (and the CIA) and the media stabbed Bush in the back with the WMD rhetoric.

Iraq was already crippled by two decades of war and sanctions before Bush's invasion.

 

[irosie91]

Besides that Bibi was demanding Saddam be overthrown. Read Clean Break Strategy.

all civilized people were demanding that Saddam be NEUTRALIZED---except people who like to dance on the dead bodies of Kurdish infants.
Are you ALSO an erstwhile fan of Pol Pot? Saddam was an imperialist
Baathist murderer------worse than Nasser

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Little Bush is now a private citizen, Can do no harm. When you should have been talking bad about him was before the useless angry war he got us in

The war all Democrats supported? That war?

 

[irosie91]

Iraq was already crippled by two decades of war and sanctions before Bush's invasion.

so? it's leader was an imperialist, murderous maniac

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump was probably going off the false claims of the Bush administration, like that they have WMD's

It was not false. Have a nice day!

 

[JLW]

The war all Democrats supported? That war?

All "Democrats supported" the war in Iraq? Either you are lying or terribly ignorant of history. A majority of Democrats opposed the war. Hillary paid the price for supporting the war in 2008.

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Soupnazi630]

Why do you think oilmen, Arabs, historians, diplomats and most military brass opposed the invasion of Iraq? We trashed the Dual Containment Policy that had worked for 20 years and made Iran ascendant. Didn't YOU know this war was going to be an unmitigated disaster?

They did not., at least not universally or even as a majority.

Saying it was a disaster might be a valid argument but it was still legal

 

[Soupnazi630]

Both were unwarranted, wrong, and illegal.

Both were legal that is fact. Whether right wrong or warranted is subjective.

 

[surada]

They did not., at least not universally or even as a majority.

Saying it was a disaster might be a valid argument but it was still legal

Yes they did.. Bush shut them all out. Bandar was recalled to Saudi Arabia because he failed to dissuade Bush.

 

[surada]

It was not false. Have a nice day!

Come on. Don't you remember when Bush claimed they couldn't find WMDs because Saddam was trucking them back and forth between Sudan and Syria?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes they did.. Bush shut them all out. Bandar was recalled to Saudi Arabia because he failed to dissuade Bush.

No they did not.

Once again no doubtsome of them did but not as a iuniversal group or majority.

 

[Unkotare]

Trump has always seized on any opportunity to be on TV, radio or magazines to voice his opinions on everything from sex to the Central Park Five to the invasion of Iraq. He loves being the center of attention.

That does not answer my question.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Both were legal that is fact. Whether right wrong or warranted is subjective.

If more on the blind partisan right had disdain for Bush we may not have had two failed, illegal wars.

 

[Soupnazi630]

If more on the blind partisan right had disdain for Bush we may not have had two failed, illegal wars.

They were legal even if failures.

 

[surada]

No they did not.

Once again no doubtsome of them did but not as a iuniversal group or majority.

The Saudis knew that overthrowing Saddam would be a disaster .. so did the Emirates.. Up until the last minute they tried to get Saddam to go into exile in either country so Bush wouldn't attack. Bush and Bandar were school chums.. He arranged for W to get loans from the Saudis when he was screwing up his oil company in Qatar.

He was also the Saudi Ambassador to the US. Bush marginalized Bandar in favor of the dual citizen signatories of the PNAC.

The invasion was for Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Come on. Don't you remember when Bush claimed they couldn't find WMDs because Saddam was trucking them back and forth between Sudan and Syria?

yes----he did not say that they were ATOM BOMBS----it is
well known that SADDAM had vast supplies of Nitrogen
Mustard Gas and its components and the RECIPE from his
good Baathist friend Gamal Abdel Nasser-----that syria had
created steel lined storage vaults in the hills between
Syria and Lebanon and then SUDDENLY----a vast storage
of NITROGEN COMPOUND exploded in Lebanon
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
and then there were the anthrax experiments

 

[Soupnazi630]

The Saudis knew that overthrowing Saddam would be a disaster .. so did the Emirates.. Up until the last minute they tried to get Saddam to go into exile in either country so Bush wouldn't attack. Bush and Bandar were school chums.. He arranged for W to get loans from the Saudis when he was screwing up his oil company in Qatar.

He was also the Saudi Ambassador to the US. Bush marginalized Bandar in favor of the dual citizen signatories of the PNAC.

The invasion was for Israel.

It was not for israel and thagt is a small part of what you referred to as Oil men

 

[surada]

all civilized people were demanding that Saddam be NEUTRALIZED---except people who like to dance on the dead bodies of Kurdish infants.
Are you ALSO an erstwhile fan of Pol Pot? Saddam was an imperialist
Baathist murderer------worse than Nasser

Just the Israelis.. Read Bibi's Clean Break Strategy. Now they want the US to declare war on Iran.

 

[surada]

yes----he did not say that they were ATOM BOMBS----it is
well known that SADDAM had vast supplies of Nitrogen
Mustard Gas and its components and the RECIPE from his
good Baathist friend Gamal Abdel Nasser-----that syria had
created steel lined storage vaults in the hills between
Syria and Lebanon and then SUDDENLY----a vast storage
of NITROGEN COMPOUND exploded in Lebanon
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
and then there were the anthrax experiments

I should have realized you were a conspiracy nut.

What weapons Saddam had were from the US when he was fighting our proxy war with Iran. They were worthless.

Take a bow. The Israelis got what they wanted.

 

[mamooth]

Thread summary:

The very violent and fascist Trump cult does not tolerate any criticism of DearLeader and his brownshirts.

Nor do they let consistency interfere with their hatred of any dissenters.

Trump cultists, take this as a warming. Anyone can go under the bus in an instant ... including you.