My friend has embraced conspiracy theories and I’m fed up with it

[Tommy Tainant]

Antivax theories first started on black talk radio before the right wingers next leveled them. Some of it, however, has proven true. Dismissing the message due to the messengers led people to ignore the risk about blod clots, heart complications, the ineffectiveness of the shots for some people, and caused people to think they made you infection proof, thereby causing more deaths in the year after they were rolled out than the first year when there was no vax.

But the vax saved millions of us. Death rates plummeted after folk started getting vaxxes.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That’s the spirit.

Don’t listen to others with a different opinion. Just blindly swallow whatever the State and the Media feed you. Those are institutions run by very, very smart people and they are never wrong about anything.

Well I would listen to anybody before listening to someone as disgusting as you.

 

[Votto]

My friend has embraced conspiracy theories and I’m fed up with it | Ask Philippa

Think of him like a car in a skid, you want to take the steering wheel and switch direction, but the car has too much momentum and it will carry on the same path

www.theguardian.com

The philosopher Hannah Arendt observed that people are often drawn to these movements, because they provide a sense of belonging and a framework that makes the world feel less chaotic. Arendt argued that those who feel isolated or alienated are particularly vulnerable to joining movements that promise solidarity and a clear division between “us” and “them”.

She pretty much nails the conspiracy movement but then blows it by quoting a female philosopher, But the truth is that they are generally frightened children who cant make sense of the world around them.

I think her advice is generally sound. Sometimes you just have to cut the cord.

But it does make you pine for more innocent times. Where is Jimmy Hoffa, chemtrails and did we actually go to the moon ?

Nowadays the conspiracies are nastier and more dangerous. Cats and dogs, stolen elections, anti vax.. What next ?

RFK as Sec for Health ?

Putin done it.

Besides, January 6th

 

[Dekster]

But the vax saved millions of us. Death rates plummeted after folk started getting vaxxes.

Not in the US. More people died from COVID after the vaccines were rolled out because presumably they thought it made them bulletproof and stopped social distancing. One of the reasons a lot of people distrusted the vaccines was that any evidence they weren't the cat's pajamas was being suppressed, people sharing the data were being deplatformed, and the scientific evidence was being denied by the people who were calling anyone who disagreed with them science deniers. There was a growing body of evidence that these things weren't working for some and having adverse effects for others. People couldn't make informed choices because it wasn't being allowed to be discussed, so the radicals at both end of the spectrum, not just the one end you opposed, fed the distrust of them. Lord only knows how many people died or suffered serious health complications because even your government was covering up the secretly known clotting problem with the AstraZeneca Covid jab.

 

[Papageorgio]

trump is the elite.

So is Harris, so are the other leaders of both parties. Both parties are bought and paid for by the rich, that is why the laws are for the rich. Obama and Biden both oversaw the two greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich.

I find it amusing that Democrats are for the working class, Democrats just like Republicans are for power and money, not for the average American.

 

[Vastator]

The current difference between a conspiracy theory, and a conspiracy fact; is roughly 2 weeks...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Not in the US. More people died from COVID after the vaccines were rolled out because presumably they thought it made them bulletproof and stopped social distancing. One of the reasons a lot of people distrusted the vaccines was that any evidence they weren't the cat's pajamas was being suppressed, people sharing the data were being deplatformed, and the scientific evidence was being denied by the people who were calling anyone who disagreed with them science deniers. There was a growing body of evidence that these things weren't working for some and having adverse effects for others. People couldn't make informed choices because it wasn't being allowed to be discussed, so the radicals at both end of the spectrum, not just the one end you opposed, fed the distrust of them. Lord only knows how many people died or suffered serious health complications because even your government was covering up the secretly known clotting problem with the AstraZeneca Covid jab.

COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know

Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Not in the US. More people died from COVID after the vaccines were rolled out because presumably they thought it made them bulletproof and stopped social distancing. One of the reasons a lot of people distrusted the vaccines was that any evidence they weren't the cat's pajamas was being suppressed, people sharing the data were being deplatformed, and the scientific evidence was being denied by the people who were calling anyone who disagreed with them science deniers. There was a growing body of evidence that these things weren't working for some and having adverse effects for others. People couldn't make informed choices because it wasn't being allowed to be discussed, so the radicals at both end of the spectrum, not just the one end you opposed, fed the distrust of them. Lord only knows how many people died or suffered serious health complications because even your government was covering up the secretly known clotting problem with the AstraZeneca Covid jab.

Time and again I read bombshell reports that turn out to be by nuts who arent qualified. I wouldnt ask a plumber to build my extension.
There is so much dishonest data around that the next epidemic millions will die.
Its a classic disinformation job.

 

[PeterPilot]

My friend has embraced conspiracy theories and I’m fed up with it | Ask Philippa

Think of him like a car in a skid, you want to take the steering wheel and switch direction, but the car has too much momentum and it will carry on the same path

www.theguardian.com

The philosopher Hannah Arendt observed that people are often drawn to these movements, because they provide a sense of belonging and a framework that makes the world feel less chaotic. Arendt argued that those who feel isolated or alienated are particularly vulnerable to joining movements that promise solidarity and a clear division between “us” and “them”.

She pretty much nails the conspiracy movement but then blows it by quoting a female philosopher, But the truth is that they are generally frightened children who cant make sense of the world around them.

I think her advice is generally sound. Sometimes you just have to cut the cord.

But it does make you pine for more innocent times. Where is Jimmy Hoffa, chemtrails and did we actually go to the moon ?

Nowadays the conspiracies are nastier and more dangerous. Cats and dogs, stolen elections, anti vax.. What next ?

RFK as Sec for Health ?

What you don't take into account sir is that humans plan and conspire all the time, and that is especially true of humans in government. As James Madison put it 200+ years ago "In truth, all men holding power ought to be mistrusted."

So your idea that conspiracies amongst and between humans is a rare event is not accurate or valid, and history is full of examples of it.

Another thing you don't realize is that in the last 50 years or so damn near every "conspiracy theory" has been shown with the passage of time to be conspiracy FACT.

When the government lies to the people all the time, which most of them do these days, it encourages conspiracy theories because so often the narratives the government advances are patently false, contradicted by all available facts and evidence.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What you don't take into account sir is that humans plan and conspire all the time, and that is especially true of humans in government. As James Madison put it 200+ years ago "In truth, all men holding power ought to be mistrusted."

So your idea that conspiracies amongst and between humans is a rare event is not accurate or valid, and history is full of examples of it.

Another thing you don't realize is that in the last 50 years or so damn near every "conspiracy theory" has been shown with the passage of time to be conspiracy FACT.

When the government lies to the people all the time, which most of them do these days, it encourages conspiracy theories because so often the narratives the government advances are patently false, contradicted by all available facts and evidence.

It is easier to believe that there is a hidden, malevolent force controlling events than to accept that randomness and chaos are part of life.

 

[Dekster]

Time and again I read bombshell reports that turn out to be by nuts who arent qualified. I wouldnt ask a plumber to build my extension.
There is so much dishonest data around that the next epidemic millions will die.
Its a classic disinformation job.

Disinformation goes both ways. It wasn't until the data came out that most of the dead in a blue city in a blue state were vaccinated that wall of propaganda start to crack....well that and once Trump was defeated the media was more willing to start revealing things like no COVID cannot survive weeks outside of a host and those studies that said so were highly engineered in lab conditions that don't exist in the real world.

 

[JohnDB]

Nobody takes you seriously.

I never take myself that seriously. Unlike leftwing politicians.

But you REALLY might want to reconsider what you believe to be facts....they might not be true at all.

Same thing with conspiracy theorists....

Covid Vaccines are a prime example....

Where they are effective....there are risks associated with them for some people. And as diseases become more virulent the Vaccines for them are more problematic with more people.

You cannot shoot up an infant with 100+ Vaccines....it ain't good for them. But going without any is just as disastrous due to rampant, unregulated immigration. These infants will get sick with something and die or become permanently disabled.

And there is nothing the scientists can do about it.

Currently the Covid virus is destroying our ability to reproduce.(endocrine system virus). No different from what Dengue fever does.

We got a LOT off medical research to go.

 

[PeterPilot]

It is easier to believe that there is a hidden, malevolent force controlling events than to accept that randomness and chaos are part of life.

I think that there certainly is some truth in what you say there, but random and chaotic events DO happen.